So much teeth gnashing for a team on a 7 game win steak. We will be 4-5 games ahead of the Rangers by the break
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I think Abreu hitting 4th is a show of support from Dusty, like a "hey we still believe in you". I'm not a hitting Sherpa, but I figure a large component of hitting well has to be mental, and if Abreu isn't a moron he has to be feeling the pressure. Rather than move the guy to 9th and breaking him forever, perhaps Dusty is trying to bolster his confidence
Well Dana's latest on Lance is kind of a bummer. Can't say I'm surprised but still a bummer.
Sounds like it's pretty iffy if he can come back in the rotation and I'm not sure there's a spot in the BP for him.
Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't pitch at all this season. At this point I think that's just as likely as him pitching.
Sounds like it's pretty iffy if he can come back in the rotation and I'm not sure there's a spot in the BP for him.
Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't pitch at all this season. At this point I think that's just as likely as him pitching.
I think he's a terrible investment, we're going to pay him 50 mill or so to bounce between the IL and a few starts.
I think maybe his mechanics were bad when he started throwing the fast curve and he did some damage to his arm early on
I think maybe his mechanics were bad when he started throwing the fast curve and he did some damage to his arm early on
Not so sure on the rangers. I know their schedule has been pretty easy but they sure put up some good numbers on offense. They could be in the mix all season
The LMJ news is exactly why I suggested the Astros invest in a swing guy of some kind.
And with respect to his throwing motion, maybe that's the cause of the delay. learning a new way. Hey, I'm trying to be optimistic instead of saying he's made of wet tissue.
And with respect to his throwing motion, maybe that's the cause of the delay. learning a new way. Hey, I'm trying to be optimistic instead of saying he's made of wet tissue.
Ags #1 said:
Not so sure on the rangers. I know their schedule has been pretty easy but they sure put up some good numbers on offense. They could be in the mix all season
Check their July schedule. It's brutal- the piper comes calling eventually because of the relative cakewalk they've had so far. Their average opponent this year is 20-27 and played the toughest teams during their worst respective stretches. It's been a dream schedule so far. Credit the Rangers for taking care of business, but let it play out.
worth noting Dubon played CF a lot last year when JV pitched because of his stellar defense....Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:
Someone will have to explain to me why Bregman should be benched yet Dubon is a must start.
As he heating up, going into today he had a 1.1XX OPS over the last week. His expected #s show he's due to get hot (as he is) and his floor is high because he gets on base even when slumping.
I havent been on the thread as much this week but are people actually saying Bregman needs to be benched?
Maybe I've had too many bourbons. Just moved down. Not benched.
Regardless, here is the Farmer plan.
Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez, & Tucker bat top 4. Figure out the order. It's doesn't matter that much. (Tucker, Altuve, Alvarez, Bregman would probably be my pick).
If there is a lefty starting, (2/3 or all 3) McCormick, Meyers, and Dubon need to be in the lineup. And Pena can't be benched to get Dubon in.
Diaz has to play more. Get him a guaranteed start behind the dish behind the plate at least once a week (I would do 2 or 3) then he also needs a start at 1st or DH once a week as well.
Don't give up on Abreu. But he needs to be down in the order, especially vs LHP when we have so many killers. We need him good to help win a title.
Chas & Jake start in the OF when Javier or any fly ball pitcher pitches. Pena starts all Framber, McCullers, & Brown starts.
All gets get regulars rest, Dubon is the first guy off the bench.
I think that is all that comes to mind.
AustinCountyAg said:worth noting Dubon played CF a lot last year when JV pitched because of his stellar defense....Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:
Someone will have to explain to me why Bregman should be benched yet Dubon is a must start.
As he heating up, going into today he had a 1.1XX OPS over the last week. His expected #s show he's due to get hot (as he is) and his floor is high because he gets on base even when slumping.
I havent been on the thread as much this week but are people actually saying Bregman needs to be benched?
Maybe I've had too many bourbons. Just moved down. Not benched.
Regardless, here is the Farmer plan.
Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez, & Tucker bat top 4. Figure out the order. It's doesn't matter that much. (Tucker, Altuve, Alvarez, Bregman would probably be my pick).
If there is a lefty starting, (2/3 or all 3) McCormick, Meyers, and Dubon need to be in the lineup. And Pena can't be benched to get Dubon in.
Diaz has to play more. Get him a guaranteed start behind the dish behind the plate at least once a week (I would do 2 or 3) then he also needs a start at 1st or DH once a week as well.
Don't give up on Abreu. But he needs to be down in the order, especially vs LHP when we have so many killers. We need him good to help win a title.
Chas & Jake start in the OF when Javier or any fly ball pitcher pitches. Pena starts all Framber, McCullers, & Brown starts.
All gets get regulars rest, Dubon is the first guy off the bench.
I think that is all that comes to mind.
He's not as good as Chas or Jake. Per Dusty, he played him there because he has a good arm and didn't want guys moving 1st to 3rd.
Good morning to everyone but Oakland, #Athletics fans and anyone who doesn’t like a little “gravy” in the morning. The @astros took out the trash from the AL West all weekend long and now set their sights on Milwaukee…#Ready2Reign🤘🏼🔥#ad @CramCrew pic.twitter.com/fSiFsBF1q1
— Adam Clanton (@adamclanton) May 22, 2023
great video by Clanton, you can really see how well the Uncle Charlie was working from Framber yesterday, absolute K machine.
For this season I'd rather they just use Lance in a long reliever type of role and trade for a 3/4 caliber starter
tjack16 said:
For this season I'd rather they just use Lance in a long reliever type of role and trade for a 3/4 caliber starter
I can get with this. But what are you trading, that is the question
tjack16 said:
For this season I'd rather they just use Lance in a long reliever type of role and trade for a 3/4 caliber starter
I'm not following... he'd only pitch once a week in either scenario, so why not keep him as a starter? You're not going to roll out LMJ every couple of days for 1 or 60 pitches.
Umpire: Tripp Gibson
— Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) May 22, 2023
Final: Athletics 0, Astros 2#Athletics // #Ready2Reign#OAKvsHOU // #HOUvsOAK
More stats for this game 👇https://t.co/jH4IOBZeUg pic.twitter.com/XOdhd56i40
Lance is under contract thru 2026 for $17 MM per.
worst case scenario down the road...would the Astros consider negotiating a medical buyout or the like.
at some point underwriters are going to stop insuring his salary against injury...and the Astros will have to take 100% of the risk.
it's amazing that between Lance and Brantley...about $28 MM is at stake insurance-wise...if they do or don't step on the field in 2023
worst case scenario down the road...would the Astros consider negotiating a medical buyout or the like.
at some point underwriters are going to stop insuring his salary against injury...and the Astros will have to take 100% of the risk.
it's amazing that between Lance and Brantley...about $28 MM is at stake insurance-wise...if they do or don't step on the field in 2023
he may have only missed 5 pitches...
but giving Kaprielian strike calls (on actual balls)...when he was behind in the count...is huge
but giving Kaprielian strike calls (on actual balls)...when he was behind in the count...is huge
Back to getting the shaft from the umps. I knew that one game was an anomaly.Farmer1906 said:Umpire: Tripp Gibson
— Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) May 22, 2023
Final: Athletics 0, Astros 2#Athletics // #Ready2Reign#OAKvsHOU // #HOUvsOAK
More stats for this game 👇https://t.co/jH4IOBZeUg pic.twitter.com/XOdhd56i40
I get that line of thinking, but it has gone on far too long. I believe that hitting 4th is probably mentally taxing on him right now because he is well aware of how bad he is sucking in such a critical spot.Dies Irae said:
I think Abreu hitting 4th is a show of support from Dusty, like a "hey we still believe in you". I'm not a hitting Sherpa, but I figure a large component of hitting well has to be mental, and if Abreu isn't a moron he has to be feeling the pressure. Rather than move the guy to 9th and breaking him forever, perhaps Dusty is trying to bolster his confidence
It's long past time he is moved down to the 7-8 spot where he can be told, the pressure is off a bit, just relax and find your stroke.
Astros now #1 in ERA, xFIP, SIERA, & K-BB%.
The Brewers are pretty average offensively. I would expect another low-scoring series.
The Brewers are pretty average offensively. I would expect another low-scoring series.
AggieJ2002 said:I get that line of thinking, but it has gone on far too long. I believe that hitting 4th is probably mentally taxing on him right now because he is well aware of how bad he is sucking in such a critical spot.Dies Irae said:
I think Abreu hitting 4th is a show of support from Dusty, like a "hey we still believe in you". I'm not a hitting Sherpa, but I figure a large component of hitting well has to be mental, and if Abreu isn't a moron he has to be feeling the pressure. Rather than move the guy to 9th and breaking him forever, perhaps Dusty is trying to bolster his confidence
It's long past time he is moved down to the 7-8 spot where he can be told, the pressure is off a bit, just relax and find your stroke.
Completely agree and is likely causing him to press even further at the plate. Players are acutely aware of when they are sucking and seeing his name penciled into the 4 hole over and over is probably deflating for him.
Also, batting between our two best hitters mean pitchers are really bearing down to try to get him out whereas batting 7th or 8th he's likely not to see such high leverage pitches. Maybe batting at the bottom of the lineup he gets some better pitches and starts to string together some hits and slowly rebuild his confidence.
Can't wait to see the lineup card for tonight! Lol.
Not on both sides, I hopeFarmer1906 said:
Astros now #1 in ERA, xFIP, SIERA, & K-BB%.
The Brewers are pretty average offensively. I would expect another low-scoring series.
Marvin said:tjack16 said:
For this season I'd rather they just use Lance in a long reliever type of role and trade for a 3/4 caliber starter
I'm not following... he'd only pitch once a week in either scenario, so why not keep him as a starter? You're not going to roll out LMJ every couple of days for 1 or 60 pitches.
I think he could go twice a week if he pitched 2 innings per outing. Like if they gave him 40 pitches max
Although they lead the NL central their run differential is -2. They are just about as average as you can get.Farmer1906 said:
Astros now #1 in ERA, xFIP, SIERA, & K-BB%.
The Brewers are pretty average offensively. I would expect another low-scoring series.
On yesterday's date in 2021 Correa got moved down to 7th in the order.Dies Irae said:
I think Abreu hitting 4th is a show of support from Dusty, like a "hey we still believe in you". I'm not a hitting Sherpa, but I figure a large component of hitting well has to be mental, and if Abreu isn't a moron he has to be feeling the pressure. Rather than move the guy to 9th and breaking him forever, perhaps Dusty is trying to bolster his confidence
He ended up being an All-Star that season and his hitting and ego recovered just fine.
And that man has twice the ego Abreu seems to have. Not saying it's not warranted, just making the point that Abreu will recover hitting 7-8
Also this is a good post and probably exactly what Dusty is thinking - I'm not trying to pick on you.Dies Irae said:
I think Abreu hitting 4th is a show of support from Dusty, like a "hey we still believe in you". I'm not a hitting Sherpa, but I figure a large component of hitting well has to be mental, and if Abreu isn't a moron he has to be feeling the pressure. Rather than move the guy to 9th and breaking him forever, perhaps Dusty is trying to bolster his confidence
My POV is just that he should be able to handle it and might even feel less pressure hitting lower and find his mojo again.
PSully97 said:On yesterday's date in 2021 Correa got moved down to 7th in the order.Dies Irae said:
I think Abreu hitting 4th is a show of support from Dusty, like a "hey we still believe in you". I'm not a hitting Sherpa, but I figure a large component of hitting well has to be mental, and if Abreu isn't a moron he has to be feeling the pressure. Rather than move the guy to 9th and breaking him forever, perhaps Dusty is trying to bolster his confidence
He ended up being an All-Star that season and his hitting and ego recovered just fine.
Epic pimp job
I remember when Rodriquez did it back to him in Boston and Cora lost his ****
I'm not arguing that he's better than Chas, or Jake in the OF. However, I will argue that with his experience in the OF, combined with his current top 10 in MLB batting avg he should be getting playing time over both of them right now. If Dusty doesn't want to let him start in the IF anywhere so be it, but he needs to be getting starts in the OF at least. Sitting him makes ZERO sense.Farmer1906 said:AustinCountyAg said:worth noting Dubon played CF a lot last year when JV pitched because of his stellar defense....Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:
Someone will have to explain to me why Bregman should be benched yet Dubon is a must start.
As he heating up, going into today he had a 1.1XX OPS over the last week. His expected #s show he's due to get hot (as he is) and his floor is high because he gets on base even when slumping.
I havent been on the thread as much this week but are people actually saying Bregman needs to be benched?
Maybe I've had too many bourbons. Just moved down. Not benched.
Regardless, here is the Farmer plan.
Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez, & Tucker bat top 4. Figure out the order. It's doesn't matter that much. (Tucker, Altuve, Alvarez, Bregman would probably be my pick).
If there is a lefty starting, (2/3 or all 3) McCormick, Meyers, and Dubon need to be in the lineup. And Pena can't be benched to get Dubon in.
Diaz has to play more. Get him a guaranteed start behind the dish behind the plate at least once a week (I would do 2 or 3) then he also needs a start at 1st or DH once a week as well.
Don't give up on Abreu. But he needs to be down in the order, especially vs LHP when we have so many killers. We need him good to help win a title.
Chas & Jake start in the OF when Javier or any fly ball pitcher pitches. Pena starts all Framber, McCullers, & Brown starts.
All gets get regulars rest, Dubon is the first guy off the bench.
I think that is all that comes to mind.
He's not as good as Chas or Jake. Per Dusty, he played him there because he has a good arm and didn't want guys moving 1st to 3rd.
yeah, and Carlos didn't give a fttha_aggie_09 said:
I remember when Rodriquez did it back to him in Boston and Cora lost his ****
Should someone tell him?
Nathaniel Lowe on where the Rangers stand in the AL West:
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) May 22, 2023
"The division is ours to lose" pic.twitter.com/qGCF0GVNqW
I don't disagree with anything he said, less it's theirs to lose. They're competitive and will likely be competitive most of the year. It is still our division to lose…
"Theirs to Lose" is a little strong but they've got the 2nd best run differential in the majors and look legit. We have some key injuries and our big FA acquisition is looking like a total bust.
I still think we are the heavy favorites, but the Vegas lines have gone from
Opening Day: Astros -205, Rangers +900
Current: Astros -123, Rangers +275
I still think we are the heavy favorites, but the Vegas lines have gone from
Opening Day: Astros -205, Rangers +900
Current: Astros -123, Rangers +275
Yes, I was more referring to the quote on the tweet. They haven't won the division in what, 6 years?ttha_aggie_09 said:
I don't disagree with anything he said, less it's theirs to lose. They're competitive and will likely be competitive most of the year. It is still our division to lose…
In 2017 they were coming off back to back division titles and 2 recent WS and we hadn't won the division in 16 years!Wabs said:Yes, I was more referring to the quote on the tweet. They haven't won the division in what, 6 years?ttha_aggie_09 said:
I don't disagree with anything he said, less it's theirs to lose. They're competitive and will likely be competitive most of the year. It is still our division to lose…
Lotta hubris around here but if that pitcher falls on Yordan's leg on that home plate slide, we're not the favorites anymore.
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