***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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ClickClack
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Honestly shocked dusty pinch hit here
ttha_aggie_09
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I was under impression JV signed a 3 year deal
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Jake is the final hope
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tjack16
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This team is consistently inconsistent
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

I was under impression JV signed a 3 year deal

It kicks in if he pitches 140 innings in 2024

jetch17
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Gay.
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Sort of speaks impressively of the talent on this team that they're over .500 at all when you think about the fact that the manager is good for an L every couple days.
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Unless Dusty wakes the **** up and realizes the division isn't a gimme this year i'm starting to get concerned.

Also Bagwell should never have input in personnel decisions again. I hated it when that started to pop up.
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Astros had 8 hits tonight --- all singles

tough way to do business in 2023

where is the power?
The D
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Nice job dusty!
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Tough loss.

We have the worst manager in baseball and now a lineup that can't produce runs because it's full of struggling veterans and AAA guys. Add in the LMJ, Urquidy, Garcia, Altuve and Brantley injuries and it's actually amazing we're still above .500
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We've given CHW 3 of their 14 wins.
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7-8-9 has to be a combo of maton neris abreu press in a close game. Next in line is seth then garcia. Other than that throw montero in a blowout. And move abreu to 6th if you are going to keep playing him. Best move is to bench him or platoon him but we know dusty wont do that

Forgot about stanek. Throw him before seth
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the pitching has been great

the hitting has been awful (outside of a few players)
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See y'all n the morning after the bleeding and whining is over. For f's sake y'all are insufferable
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Montero has to be one of the biggest FA signing disasters this franchise has ever done. I am not expecting him to get anywhere close to his 2022 performance this year, and will probably end the season with above a 4.0 ERA. Possibly won't even be on the team next year after the experiment is all said and done and we just eat his massive contract

So much recency bias went into that decision just because his 2022 was good and playoff performance numbers were solid, but beneath the surface you could easily see some cracks and he got very lucky down the stretch
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Like this isnt rocket science. The numbers at this point pretty much tell you who is who. Sure someone can get hot but until they do you adjust
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Mathguy64 said:

The D said:

He's so trash. What in the **** happened to him
he turned 40

Abreu needs to start hopping on the juice
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W said:

Astros had 8 hits tonight --- all singles

tough way to do business in 2023

where is the power?


Altuve - Sugarland
Breggy - broken?
Abreu - no fountain of youth
Diaz - on the bench
Chas - purgatory
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Hard to say who's the bigger bust of the offseason signees, Montero or Abreu. They have both been awful
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Abreu by far cause he plays every day. But montero is dog poop
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Astros currently rank 25th in MLB in home runs with just 34 on the season

currently rank 27th in slugging %
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How much are Abreu and Montero making combined?
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Other than saying we need to get healthy what can we do to stop playing .500 ball? and looks like we have no clue when uncle mike is getting back. Is jose going to fix everything? That is the only bat we have a line of sight that can help
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32 basically. Abreu 20 montero 11.5
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Has anyone paid attention to Monteiro's stuff this year? I feel like every time he comes in I just get pissed because he gives up a leadoff hit, double or walk and then don't really pay attention.

His velocity seems the same. His change doesn't seem as sharp and easily as located for a strike. His 2 seam looks like it still has decent run. I guess command has been an issue but any thoughts on his collapse from last year?
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tjack16 said:

How much are Abreu and Montero making combined?
Close to $35M

Should have given JV his money and if he gets injured, so be it.
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There's no way to know until he's back, in my opinion. Jose has had many spells of unproductive batting and/or struggles, too. He might provide a spark for others in the line-up, at the very least. But, we definitely need both him and Uncle Mike back and in the line-up. No doubt about that.
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Frok said:

Astros talked crap about analytics and then made a series of bonehead decisions.
Thanks Jeff.

And to think we were thisclose to GM Brad Ausmus.
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After acknowledging his growing role in the franchise's makeshift front office, Hall of Famer Jeff Bagwell on Tuesday bemoaned the Astros' reliance on analytics and asserted that "this game is played by humans, man. It's not played by computers."

"The game has advanced so much," Bagwell said. "But at the end of the day, it's about driving runs in, scoring runs, getting 27 outs before the other team. That never changes. Trying to get a mix of both of those is what I'm trying to get some of up there because that's what (owner Jim Crane) wants."

Analytics built the Astros into a budding dynasty, but it's worth wondering if Bagwell's growing influence on Crane might shift the franchise back toward a blended approach.

"I talk to Jim a lot and the new assistant GMs and so forth just to give my opinion on some of the things I see and how I see it (from) a player's perspective and, I guess, a front-office perspective and how that all mixes together," Bagwell said. "You have to have a mix of both. You can't just be one way."

Asked whether the Astros had gone "too far one way," Bagwell replied, "Personally, for me, yes.

"There are certain things that go on that the numbers can't explain," Bagwell said. "This game is played by humans, man. It's not played by computers. There's a lot of things that go on stuff at home, a lot of things that can happen throughout the year that mean something, and it affects players in certain ways."

It's clear that since Click's departure, Bagwell wields far more influence than his current job title of community outreach executive.

"I don't know. I do the same thing," Bagwell said. "I bother Jim nonstop. I think he's tired of me. I'm just a voice of how I see baseball and how I see the other things in baseball that aren't just numbers. Numbers are important don't get me wrong. But there are other things that matter."

Bagwell's 15-minute conversation with reporters Tuesday sounded eerily similar to a general manager's mid-winter state of the union. Of Yordan Alvarez, Bagwell said, "I want Yordan to play 45 to 50 percent of the games in left field." He called Abreu "our number one target" and didn't rule out entering the catching market despite Martn Maldonado's return.

"I want to do whatever Jim needs me to do," Bagwell said. "I'm not pushing myself to do anything. I know I'm involved. I know I enjoy talking the game of baseball, and I certainly enjoy talking about us and getting better."
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

See y'all n the morning after the bleeding and whining is over. For f's sake y'all are insufferable
You are actually not an enjoyable poster to have around yourself
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Ags #1 said:

Other than saying we need to get healthy what can we do to stop playing .500 ball? and looks like we have no clue when uncle mike is getting back. Is jose going to fix everything? That is the only bat we have a line of sight that can help


You could start by benching Abreu (or, even better, making whatever excuse you need to send him down to Sugarland to work on whatever his ****ing issue is, thereby forcing Dusty to use someone else) for Hensley or Diaz at 1b. While we are on the topic of catchers, let's not ever start our third ****ing string catcher, ever. If you insist on carrying three, that third string is there only for emergencies, or if you want to pull Maldy when Diaz is DHing.

That's just fan stuff, I guess, though.
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And we know uncle mike could be out 1 week or 3 months. So all we have to help is jose. Thats it. Or bench the guy who sucks (abreu) and even them we dont have a sure fire bat to replace him.
Ags #1
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I agree with all thar but you arent going to send a 10 year vet making 20 mill to the minors. And hensely sucks worse than abreu so dont really like that option
f1ghtintexasaggie
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You asked what we could do. That's what we could do. And while Hensley hasn't been much better than Abreu, he does have one homer to his name this year in half the ABs....

Edit: And, honestly, I'm not sure he would play a worse 1b defensively.
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