lurker76 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Tried posting this last night. Great to see these guys get a more reasonable salary
How does someone playing for the Space Cowboys in Sugar Land survive on $35.5k, much less $17.5k per year? Is there some other source of income for the players at that level? I'm sure several room together, but that has to be very difficult.
That's nice. How does this apply to minor leaguers? All of their minimums are below this.W said:
a single person making $38,000 should be able to make ends meet.
many important life lessons are learned while living paycheck to paycheck
We actually have a good family friend in AAA, needless to say he and his new fiance are quite thrilled about this development.AgLA06 said:It used to be understood you had to have another job. Either part time during the season or full time during the off season. That obviously makes it difficult to continue development when your trading film sessions, bullpen sessions, BP, etc. for hours at Home Depot. Never made any sense to me and definitely caused guys to wash out when they have to make a choice between love of a game they believe they can play or providing for a family.lurker76 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Tried posting this last night. Great to see these guys get a more reasonable salary
How does someone playing for the Space Cowboys in Sugar Land survive on $35.5k, much less $17.5k per year? Is there some other source of income for the players at that level? I'm sure several room together, but that has to be very difficult.
Not trying to start the normal debate on this. I'm sure the usual guys saying you had to really want it and essentially be an indefinitely unpaid intern to make it to the show somehow makes sense.
for one thing most AAA players are making way more than 35K a year. most are making double that.lurker76 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Tried posting this last night. Great to see these guys get a more reasonable salary
How does someone playing for the Space Cowboys in Sugar Land survive on $35.5k, much less $17.5k per year? Is there some other source of income for the players at that level? I'm sure several room together, but that has to be very difficult.
My elementary PE teacher used to tell the story of being drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles and choosing to be a first year PE teacher instead because it was a lot more money and much better on his health.lurker76 said:
Thanks. I'm old enough to remember when pro football players had two or three jobs outside of football, or owned a bar/restaurant, to supplement their income. I'm sure baseball, football and hockey players did as well. Even during the AFL/NFL days when players were drafted by each league and they would get into bidding wars, they continued to work extra jobs.
Just curious, what makes you think we're lacking in strength/conditioning programs for our prospects? From everything I've read/gathered, we do very well in that department.Eso si, Que es said:
I thought the Astros were creating a competitive advantage with the housing by allowing players to focus more on development. I think they could take it a step further with nutritional programs and enhance strength and conditioning.
If we were able to truly support minor leaguers by covering the lower level of the hierarchy of needs, it seems it would help them focus and to truly excel. It is a big investment, but teaching the kids how to properly fuel and train their bodies could pay huge dividends and keep a competitive advantage of developing talent.
My father in law played in the late 70's/early 80's and he is a wreck now. Most of his damage is self imposed post NFL, but he has issues and is broken financially, physically, and mentally.AgLA06 said:My elementary PE teacher used to tell the story of being drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles and choosing to be a first year PE teacher instead because it was a lot more money and much better on his health.lurker76 said:
Thanks. I'm old enough to remember when pro football players had two or three jobs outside of football, or owned a bar/restaurant, to supplement their income. I'm sure baseball, football and hockey players did as well. Even during the AFL/NFL days when players were drafted by each league and they would get into bidding wars, they continued to work extra jobs.
He's long retired now, but still going strong. So I guess he made the right choise.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mlb-commissioner-rob-manfred-rejects-that-minor-league-players-arent-paid-a-living-wage-weve-made-real-strides-11658337811AustinCountyAg said:for one thing most AAA players are making way more than 35K a year. most are making double that.lurker76 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Tried posting this last night. Great to see these guys get a more reasonable salary
How does someone playing for the Space Cowboys in Sugar Land survive on $35.5k, much less $17.5k per year? Is there some other source of income for the players at that level? I'm sure several room together, but that has to be very difficult.
I guess my point was more towards the nutritional program we have at a large D1 school like A&M. Is it possible for the Astros to do something like that for their farm system. Just bite the financial bullet and fuel those guys properly. It takes a huge financial burden off the athletes to be fed, but you also get to feed them properlyDeluxe said:Just curious, what makes you think we're lacking in strength/conditioning programs for our prospects? From everything I've read/gathered, we do very well in that department.Eso si, Que es said:
I thought the Astros were creating a competitive advantage with the housing by allowing players to focus more on development. I think they could take it a step further with nutritional programs and enhance strength and conditioning.
If we were able to truly support minor leaguers by covering the lower level of the hierarchy of needs, it seems it would help them focus and to truly excel. It is a big investment, but teaching the kids how to properly fuel and train their bodies could pay huge dividends and keep a competitive advantage of developing talent.
Crazy to see how some things have changed and others still the same (MLB minor leagues).Eso si, Que es said:My father in law played in the late 70's/early 80's and he is a wreck now. Most of his damage is self imposed post NFL, but he has issues and is broken financially, physically, and mentally.AgLA06 said:My elementary PE teacher used to tell the story of being drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles and choosing to be a first year PE teacher instead because it was a lot more money and much better on his health.lurker76 said:
Thanks. I'm old enough to remember when pro football players had two or three jobs outside of football, or owned a bar/restaurant, to supplement their income. I'm sure baseball, football and hockey players did as well. Even during the AFL/NFL days when players were drafted by each league and they would get into bidding wars, they continued to work extra jobs.
He's long retired now, but still going strong. So I guess he made the right choise.
He received a $40k signing bonus which paid for his first house. If he was smart he could have set himself up well for a modest life, but he made poor decisions.
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Deluxe said:
Interesting. Bligh and JJ got DFA'd to make room for Salazar and Julks. Altuve to the 10 day.
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I personally know 2 former players who were drafted and played in the minors. One made it and one didn't make it to the bigs. They both received 6 figure signing bonuses, and this was about 20 years ago. Your post doesn't take this into consideration.Lonestar_Ag09 said:We actually have a good family friend in AAA, needless to say he and his new fiance are quite thrilled about this development.AgLA06 said:It used to be understood you had to have another job. Either part time during the season or full time during the off season. That obviously makes it difficult to continue development when your trading film sessions, bullpen sessions, BP, etc. for hours at Home Depot. Never made any sense to me and definitely caused guys to wash out when they have to make a choice between love of a game they believe they can play or providing for a family.lurker76 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Tried posting this last night. Great to see these guys get a more reasonable salary
How does someone playing for the Space Cowboys in Sugar Land survive on $35.5k, much less $17.5k per year? Is there some other source of income for the players at that level? I'm sure several room together, but that has to be very difficult.
Not trying to start the normal debate on this. I'm sure the usual guys saying you had to really want it and essentially be an indefinitely unpaid intern to make it to the show somehow makes sense.
But to address some of the topics posed above.
-They were paid even less before last season
-Players only began being given free housing last season (some had already started doing it before, astros for instance)
-Players live 3-4 per apartment/house
-There is no way theyd be able to work during the season
-You can work some during off season but only a low paying part time job because youre only available Oct-Feb.
-Many teams also expect these guys to play winter leagues etc which takes away the ability to work
-Before this new CBA players were only paid during their season, so while they may be required to stay with a team during spring training and playoffs they are only paid a stipend not a salary even comparable to the season
For the statement comparing to a teacher, most starting teachers are closer to 60k than they are 35k
Me too. Wonder if he'll clear waivers and end up back.agproducer said:
I'm surprised JJ got DFA'd.
He was damn good in AAA last year too. He'll be 28 in Nov. It may be in his best interest to move on. Maybe we'll find a trade partner and add a interesting single-A type guy with upside.Deluxe said:Me too. Wonder if he'll clear waivers and end up back.agproducer said:
I'm surprised JJ got DFA'd.
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Starting line up predictions?
