***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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10:49p, 9/18/23
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Dusty seems like he's completely in the "I'll show them old school managing is better than analytics" camp.
I suspect it's him vs the entire front office at this point

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In reply to spadilly • 10:49p, 9/18/23
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He does actually
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10:50p, 9/18/23
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I'm waiting for 2015 to post the video
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10:50p, 9/18/23
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Tuck had some big hits, but he also failed to get the runner home from 3rd with 1 out TWICE

For this team to get anywhere, he is going to have to step it up
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In reply to Dies Irae • 10:50p, 9/18/23
Dies Irae said:
AggiEE said:
**** Dusty

**** Montero

**** Pressly

**** Tucker

Tonight's loss is on them


Bro Tucker was 2-5 with a triple and an RBI.
Facts don't matter when folks are ranting.

Why not get mad at Breggy 0-5? Or Yordan 0-4 with a walk? Although he smoked a ball in the first.. Or Chaz who had a solid night at the plate numbers wise but also failed in the clutch in the 9th with an awful AB?

Fans need to vent. With a lost like tonight's they need to direct their anger at more than Dusty.
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In reply to agproducer • 10:51p, 9/18/23
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It might not be until tomorrow honestly. What's the best way to post videos?
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 10:51p, 9/18/23
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I would hope so. I just see Dusty wanting to let the pitchers work through situations, which is great when you have a ten game lead or have the division wrapped up.
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10:52p, 9/18/23
2-5 since the San Diego series. The sleepwalking continues.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 10:53p, 9/18/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
It might not be until tomorrow honestly. What's the best way to post videos?


He had to have been tipping the slider.

I'm not sure about the video posting. Maybe s private YouTube link?
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In reply to cc10106 • 10:53p, 9/18/23
Tonight wasn't sleepwalking. Tonight was a bullpen meltdown, not once but twice.
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In reply to agproducer • 10:54p, 9/18/23
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He was doing a slight double clutch when he threw heater. He didn't do it when he threw breaking ball.
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In reply to jkag89 • 10:55p, 9/18/23
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Tonight wasn't sleepwalking. Tonight was a bullpen meltdown, not once but twice.
Fair enough. One still leads to the other.
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In reply to cc10106 • 10:56p, 9/18/23
I agree that one compounds the other.
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In reply to spadilly • 10:57p, 9/18/23
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spadilly said:
Dusty seems like he's completely in the "I'll show them old school managing is better than analytics" camp.
I suspect it's him vs the entire front office at this point



Last I checked, old school managing meant not giving your best players every 4th game off. You rolled with your studs.

That's the part that doesn't make sense
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10:57p, 9/18/23
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I really hope we sign Hader this off-season to be our closer next year. And it keeps him from the Rangers too. Win-win
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10:59p, 9/18/23
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C'mon, team that just lost two series in a row to the two worst teams in baseball wasn't going to win against a good club tonight.

If Crane can't figure a way out of a rogue employee screwing up regardless of contract or if he thinks it's fine then he can enjoy not making the postseason.

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In reply to jkag89 • 10:59p, 9/18/23
It's been a trend throughout the season at home. Like deja vu at this point.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 10:59p, 9/18/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
He was doing a slight double clutch when he threw heater. He didn't do it when he threw breaking ball.


I figured it was one or the other.
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In reply to jkag89 • 11:01p, 9/18/23
jkag89 said:
Dies Irae said:
AggiEE said:
**** Dusty

**** Montero

**** Pressly

**** Tucker

Tonight's loss is on them


Bro Tucker was 2-5 with a triple and an RBI.
Facts don't matter when folks are ranting.

Why not get mad at Breggy 0-5? Or Yordan 0-4 with a walk? Although he smoked a ball in the first.. Or Chaz who had a solid night at the plate numbers wise but also failed in the clutch in the 9th with an awful AB?

Fans need to vent. With a lost like tonight's they need to direct their anger at more than Dusty.
I mean, do I have permission now?
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In reply to AggieJ2002 • 11:02p, 9/18/23
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AggieJ2002 said:
Tuck had some big hits, but he also failed to get the runner home from 3rd with 1 out TWICE

For this team to get anywhere, he is going to have to step it up


I agree with this.

Does he want to be paid like the face of the franchise or just another lollygagger?
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11:04p, 9/18/23
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Mariners aren't having trouble with the A's. Weird.
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11:07p, 9/18/23
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It's actually pretty embarrassing that 2 out of 3 of the Astros, Rangers and Mariners are going to make the playoffs.

All of them are playing like ****, honestly
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11:09p, 9/18/23
38-38 at home now
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11:11p, 9/18/23
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Rangers have 5 games left against Red Sox and Angels.

Mariners have 2 more v As after they beat them tonight.

They have 7 then v each other, sure, no guarantee that goes the way the Astros need it to.

Astros just lost two series to the two worst teams in baseball.

Lost a winnable game tonight with two of their top 6 batters on the bench.

Dusty is shtting all over the team and it's like, oh we have such bad luck.

This ineptitude just raises the stakes for the Seattle series. Not hard to see an outcome where Seattle and Arlington make it in and Astros do not.

Such an effing waste
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In reply to txag614 • 11:14p, 9/18/23
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txag614 said:
The Porkchop Express said:
txag614 said:
Getting out managed at EVERY single turn. Amazing this team is where it is.
Bringing in your closer to close?


There is so much more to it and you know it.
he said every single turn.
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11:16p, 9/18/23
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I rewatched the top of the 9th to look for Presley tipping. I didn't see anything as far as tipping goesnot saying he wasn't, just nothing my untrained eye saw in real time. But, all the hits were pitches over the middle of the plate. He wasn't particularly sharp on his breaking stuff and too many pitches were over the fat part of the plate
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In reply to n_touch • 11:17p, 9/18/23
n_touch said:
jkag89 said:
Dies Irae said:
AggiEE said:
**** Dusty

**** Montero

**** Pressly

**** Tucker

Tonight's loss is on them


Bro Tucker was 2-5 with a triple and an RBI.
Facts don't matter when folks are ranting.

Why not get mad at Breggy 0-5? Or Yordan 0-4 with a walk? Although he smoked a ball in the first.. Or Chaz who had a solid night at the plate numbers wise but also failed in the clutch in the 9th with an awful AB?

Fans need to vent. With a lost like tonight's they need to direct their anger at more than Dusty.
I mean, do I have permission now?
I just find it odd what players fans decide take out their frustrations. Tuck gets raked over the coals for his 9th inning AB while not a peep about Chaz.. At least Tuck put the ball in play and at least a few here believe it was enough to get Myers home. Love Chaz but his 9th inning AB was brutal.
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In reply to scrimp • 11:18p, 9/18/23
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scrimp said:
I rewatched the top of the 9th to look for Presley tipping. I didn't see anything as far as tipping goesnot saying he wasn't, just nothing my untrained eye saw in real time. But, all the hits were pitches over the middle of the plate. He wasn't particularly sharp on his breaking stuff and too many pitches were over the fat part of the plate


Yeah I don't think this was too deep.

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In reply to Beau Holder • 11:22p, 9/18/23
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Beau Holder said:
texasaggie2015 said:
Is it time to have a conversation about Josh Miller as well?

I'm happy to bring an entirely new staff in next year. Let Dana go wild.
if the Astros miss the playoffs....

I'd expect a whole new coaching staff

all of them have too much Dusty stink on them
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11:24p, 9/18/23
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Magic number unchanged v Mariners at 11

Magic number v Rangers now 10

Games left
Astros 11
Mariners 12
Rangers 12
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11:28p, 9/18/23
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at this point...

it may be in the Astros' best interest if one team (Seattle or Texas) dominates the 7 upcoming games...5-2 or 6-1

so the 'stros can slide into the last wildcard...and take their chances from there
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In reply to AggieJ2002 • 11:29p, 9/18/23
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He's gonna end up with 120 RBIs
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In reply to W • 11:32p, 9/18/23
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W said:
at this point...

it may be in the Astros' best interest if one team (Seattle or Texas) dominates the 7 upcoming games...5-2 or 6-1

so the 'stros can slide into the last wildcard...and take their chances from there


Guessing it would be Rangers if Astros get worked in Seattle. But then need to win against Royals and DBacks

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In reply to chlavinka • 11:33p, 9/18/23
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chlavinka said:
He's gonna end up with 120 RBIs


Yup and we've needed every one of them. Tuck has done his part this season, but for us to go anywhere he is gonna have to carry us at that level he played for most of the season up until these last few weeks.

The good news is that he is that good and I believe in him and we know he is capable. Not like we are saying Pena has to be 2022 playoff Pena because that is quite unlikely
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:36p, 9/18/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
Because Abreu is hurt and was not available


Wait, when did Abreu get hurt? He's only thrown a total of 50 pitches all month, what is going on? If he's hurt, we are cooked.
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