***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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Farmer1906 said:



Seriously tho…
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Deluxe said:

Farmer1906 said:



Seriously tho…

How did anyone ever doubt him?
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What a difference 15 and 24 years make for your favorite franchise.

February 19

2008 - The first full day of spring training is a rough one for a trio of Astros. Outfielder Hunter Pence arrives with cuts all over his hands and knees after crashing through a sliding glass door while leaving the hot tub of his rental home. Shortstop Miguel Tejada is grilled by the press about his legal troubles stemming from the Mitchell Report and infielder Mark Loretta learns he has lost his arbitration case, receiving $2.75 million in salary instead of the $4.9 million he sought.

1999 - Astros General Manager Gerry Hunsicker announces that outfielder Moises Alou has suffered a knee injury while working out in the Dominican Republic. While initial reports are optimistic, Alou is lost for the entire season. Alou claims he hurt the knee while running on a treadmill but management expresses some skepticism.
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The injury to Alou was a kick in the junk. How did he injure it if wasn't on a treadmill?
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OKCAg2002 said:

The injury to Alou was a kick in the junk. How did he injure it if wasn't on a treadmill?
Washing his truck?
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OKCAg2002 said:

The injury to Alou was a kick in the junk. How did he injure it if wasn't on a treadmill?
Massage
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EastCoastAgNc said:



Quick, everybody jump to conclusions!
I conclude Mike finally jumped Altuve on the 1b depth chart.
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OKCAg2002 said:

The injury to Alou was a kick in the junk. How did he injure it if wasn't on a treadmill?
My fantasy baseball team that year was called the Runaway Treadmills.

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Moved into our new home last week and decided to get myself a little house warming gift.
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Brantley playing a little 1B seems smart for all parties involved. We could use an extra depth body there. And it'll be nice for his FA resume this offseason.
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Maybe this is old news, but with Brantley getting this work at 1st, kind of puts the nail in the coffin that they're moving on from Yuli, right?

(Or maybe Yuli as already signed on elsewhere and I missed it.)
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Farmer1906 said:

How did anyone ever doubt him?

For the most part, I think we've done a good job on this thread keeping expectations tempered for Peña's sophomore season. But. It's also possible this is the calm before a very big storm. Which would be fun.
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The 40 man roster is filled. Unfortunately, there's no room on the bus for Yuli unless we cut or trade a player. Not even Yuli knows where (and if) he will play in 2023.
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Deluxe said:

Brantley playing a little 1B seems smart for all parties involved. We could use an extra depth body there. And it'll be nice for his FA resume this offseason.


Does anyone remember the spring training in the 80s when the astros briefly tried billy hatcher at 3b? Think it was the year they ultimately brought caminti up. Hatcher took a couple of sharp grounder to the face before they abandoned ship.
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Dude looks like he's been doing nothing but chopping wood all offseason.
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Hey Clayton, look up "double standard" in the dictionary
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Hey Clayton, look up "double standard" in the dictionary

Well, at least the Dodgers are now admitting that everyone else cheated.
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OKCAg2002 said:

The 40 man roster is filled.
Ah, I missed that.

Thanks OKCAg
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Marvin said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Hey Clayton, look up "double standard" in the dictionary

Well, at least the Dodgers are now admitting that everyone else cheated.

There is a clear distinction. The Astros won the World Series and everyone else (including the *****es from the Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox) did not. That is the only distinction I see.
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40 days until Opening Day means we're at jersey #40, worn by 2 Houston pitchers who threw no-hitters, but unfortunately one of them met a tragic end that to his day is one of the biggest mysteries in sports.

The monstrous Ken Johnson wore the number from 1962 to 1965 as a Colt .45 and an Astro. At 6 foot 4, 210 lbs he was a big specimen of a guy who was ambidextrous (he could breathe underwater) . He was drafted by the Colt 45s in the expansion draft of October 1961 and pitched 4 years for the squad. In 1963, he had a 2.65 ERA but went 11-17. In 1964, he became the only player ever to lose a 9-inning no-hitter. Against the Reds, it was 0-0 in the ninth when Pete Rose got to second on a throwing error by Johnson, went to third on a groundout, and scored on an error by Nellie Fox. Johnson's line for the game: 9 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 9 K.



Don Wilson wore #40 from 1967 until 1974 for the Astros. Alongside Larry Dierker, he was one of our first really great starting pitchers. He made his MLB debut in 1966 at age 21. getting the win with 6 innings of relief after Bob Bruce got hurt. He gave up 2 runs and struck out 7 against the Reds. He was in the rotation every year after that, winning 16 games in 1969.

In 1971, he really turned it up, going 16-10 with a 2.45 ERA, 18 complete games and 3 shutouts, allowing just 15 home runs in 268 innings. He was 15-10 with a 2.68 ERA the next year. In '73 and '74 he had a losing record but his ERA was 3.20 and 3.08.

On June 18, 1967, he no-hit the Braves 2-0 at the Astrodome, the first no-hitter ever on turf or in a domed stadiu,. He struck out 15 batters in that game, and struck out Hank Aaron for the final out. Aaron was 0 for 3 with a walk and 3 strikeouts. The Braves lineup also featured future Astro coach Denis Menke, Felipe Alou, Tito Francona, and the legendary Bob Uecker. Phil Niekro started for the Braves.

A year later, on July 14, 1968, he set a still-standing team record when he struck out 18 Reds in a 6-1 victory.

In 1969, Jim Maloney of the Reds no-hit the Astros 10-0 on May 1, and the next day, Wilson no-hit the Reds 4-0 for his second career no hitter. That year the Astros reached .500 (81-81) for the first time. Unfortunately, this is not a happy ending.

On January 5, 1975, Wilson came home, pulled his car into the garage, shut the door behind him, but never got out of the car. He appears to have fallen asleep and was killed by the carbon monoxide fumes. Even worse, his son Alex was sleeping in the bedroom above the garage and also died for asphyxia.

His wife apparently found him the next morning. When police and EMS arrived, they found his wife, Bernice, had suffered a badly bruised jaw - her face was swollen and bruised and the couple's daughter Denice was found in her bedroom, unconscious. She fell into a coma at the hospital but survived. However she suffered brain damage and was unable to attend her father and brother's funerals.

His death was ruled an accident, but if you want to research it, it definitely has a troublesome air of a domestic disturbance and a possible murder. Both kids and Don suffered the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning, but his wife did not. When the cops went back to interview the wife after the funeral, she told them she had retained an attorney and would not talk without her counsel present. She also said she had amnesia from that night and couldn't remember anything.

For some reason, a month later, the medical examiner for Harris County ruled it an accident and case closed. The Astros retired #40 on April 14, 1975. Wilson was a month short of his 30th birthday when he died.






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His death was truly tragic. I never believed it was suicide since his young son died as well. I had never heard about his wife and daughter until now so that does make you wonder.

Wilson barely missed a third no-hitter. I remember this pretty well. I can't remember who they were playing but it was in the Astrodome. Game was tied 0-0 in the bottom of the 8th and Wison had not given up a hit. Preston Gomez lifted him for a pinch hitter. An irate fan ran onto the field and tried to attack Gomez. I wasn't there but there was a photo in the Chronicle the next day.
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B**** and Miller watching Whitley throw. This has to be the year right? Right!?
I mean we know Baggs likes veteran players, I mean at this point Forrest is a vet haha
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I was at Wilson's no hitter vs the Braves. Dierker and Wilson were an awesome 1-2 punch in the rotation.
Tragic ending. I was not aware of the domestic issues, but I do seem to remember at the time it was rumored he passed out drunk in the garage.
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Wonder if we put Dubon on the Pena Plan
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the Don Wilson situation...was one of those things...where there was a quiet understanding...not to dig too deeply into what happened.

and of course HPD was a mess in the 1970's.

and going into CSI mode...how common were automatic garage door openers in 1975?
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