***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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Jet Black said:

I always thought Kate Upton wanted him in LA. I'd hate to see him go but he's gonna be 40 when the season starts. Although, Abreu is 35.


Nah they sold the LA house and live in south Florida now

nypost.com/2022/11/02/inside-justin-verlander-and-kate-uptons-florida-home/amp/
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07ag said:

Jet Black said:

I always thought Kate Upton wanted him in LA. I'd hate to see him go but he's gonna be 40 when the season starts. Although, Abreu is 35.


Nah they sold the LA house and live in south Florida now



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Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Philip J Fry said:

Kind of reminds me if the moves the Rockets made after your second championship. Please don't kill the team chemistry.


Astros let George Springer and Carlos Correa walk, fired AJ Hinch, and won another World Series.
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Acting? I thought it was archive footage.
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irish pete ag06 said:

Acting? I thought it was archive footage.
He just meant that she was a normal housewife who acted like a sl-t for 1 night
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Am i the only one who didn't know that Jose Abreu's full name has Correa in it?
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Bregxit said:

shano0603 said:

Am i the only one who didn't know that Jose Abreu's full name has Correa in it?
Did you know Correa's full name has Oppenheimer in it?

Today has been an informative day.
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2022 Jim Crane is a beast
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Good lord, if we sign Contreras we will truly have a lethal lineup

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If anyone wants to see some fireworks, check premium. The shelf life might be short though.
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linkdude said:

If anyone wants to see some fireworks, check premium. The shelf life might be short though.


That's one crazy dude.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Tldr for the poor's?
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CliffNotes? I quit paying them when they booted me from this thread until after the series. Bass turds.
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07ag said:

Tldr for the poor's?

How it started


After one perma ban and he created two more accounts and this is how it ended


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Farmer1906 said:


If the Contreras plan is to mostly play him LF/DH along with some occasional backup C duties, I'd rather just re-sign Brantley.

If the Contreras plan is for him to play a little LF/DH while we gradually transition Maldy's duties to him this year and then be our full time C going forward, sign me up.

I was a little sour on trading for him at the deadline because 1) I didn't want to give up good assets for a rental, 2) it was questionable how quick he could learn our staff and 3) I didn't think we'd be able to retain him after the season.

Now that we've shown we're willing to spend and he'll have a full spring + season to learn our staff before the stretch run, I'm much more on board.

I wonder how much our revamped front office values the 2nd round pick we'd have to give up to sign him.
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Anyone see anything about where Mancini and Vasquez might be signing? Really liked those 2 and will pull for them other than against us that is.
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Deluxe said:

Farmer1906 said:


If the Contreras plan is to mostly play him LF/DH along with some occasional backup C duties, I'd rather just re-sign Brantley.

If the Contreras plan is for him to play a little LF/DH while we gradually transition Maldy's duties to him this year and then be our full time C going forward, sign me up.

I was a little sour on trading for him at the deadline because 1) I didn't want to give up good assets for a rental, 2) it was questionable how quick he could learn our staff and 3) I didn't think we'd be able to retain him after the season.

Now that we've shown we're willing to spend and he'll have a full spring + season to learn our staff before the stretch run, I'm much more on board.

I wonder how much our revamped front office values the 2nd round pick we'd have to give up to sign him.
I don't think it matters how the front office feels about the second pick. I think it matters how Jim Crane feels about it. If he wants Contreras, he's shown what he's willing to do to those in the front office who don't get who he wants.
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BeaumontAg05 said:

Anyone see anything about where Mancini and Vasquez might be signing? Really liked those 2 and will pull for them other than against us that is.
Haven't seen much on either. Highly doubt Mancini will be back now that we've signed Abreu.

I've always been a fan of retaining Vazquez. In terms of bang for buck, I'd rather re-sign him than commit $80 million+ to Contreras. But I'm not going to lose much sleep over whatever we decide to do at C this offseason.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


I don't think it matters how the front office feels about the second pick. I think it matters how Jim Crane feels about it. If he wants Contreras, he's shown what he's willing to do to those in the front office who don't get who he wants.
At this point, when I say "front office", I'm including Crane.
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Deluxe said:

Farmer1906 said:


If the Contreras plan is to mostly play him LF/DH along with some occasional backup C duties, I'd rather just re-sign Brantley.

If the Contreras plan is for him to play a little LF/DH while we gradually transition Maldy's duties to him this year and then be our full time C going forward, sign me up.

I was a little sour on trading for him at the deadline because 1) I didn't want to give up good assets for a rental, 2) it was questionable how quick he could learn our staff and 3) I didn't think we'd be able to retain him after the season.

Now that we've shown we're willing to spend and he'll have a full spring + season to learn our staff before the stretch run, I'm much more on board.

I wonder how much our revamped front office values the 2nd round pick we'd have to give up to sign him.
100% agree.

Contreras is a great hitter for a catcher. He may improve slightly without worrying about catching duties. Over the last 3 seasons, his wRC+ is 119 (110, 111, 132). That's good, but that's similar to someone like Ian Happ or Anthony Rizzo. So I don't want to pay him like an elite catcher. If we want him to be a LF/DH with emergency catcher duties then he's not worth the 4/80 or whatever the rumored amount would be.

I wouldn't mind a catching split to look something like this:
  • Maldy - LMJ, Framber, Garcia (every other start) - 68 starts
  • Lee/Diaz (pick 1) - Brown, Urquidy - 54 starts
  • Contreras - Javier, Garica (every other start) - 40 starts

Then Contreras can play another 45 games in LF and 45 games at DH. Lee or Diaz get proper development. Maldy isn't overworked so maybe he can be more productive at the plate. Win-win-win.
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Deluxe said:

BeaumontAg05 said:

Anyone see anything about where Mancini and Vasquez might be signing? Really liked those 2 and will pull for them other than against us that is.
Haven't seen much on either. Highly doubt Mancini will be back now that we've signed Abreu.

I've always been a fan of retaining Vazquez. In terms of bang for buck, I'd rather re-sign him than commit $80 million+ to Contreras. But I'm not going to lose much sleep over whatever we decide to do at C this offseason.
I think both are going to have to wait until other dominoes fall. Whoever signs Mancini is a club that probably missed out on Rizzo, Abreu, Bell, & Belt.
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Farmer1906 said:


100% agree.

Contreras is a great hitter for a catcher. He may improve slightly without worrying about catching duties. Over the last 3 seasons, his wRC+ is 119 (110, 111, 132). That's good, but that's similar to someone like Ian Happ or Anthony Rizzo. So I don't want to pay him like an elite catcher. If we want him to be a LF/DH with emergency catcher duties then he's not worth the 4/80 or whatever the rumored amount would be.

I wouldn't mind a catching split to look something like this:
  • Maldy - LMJ, Framber, Garcia (every other start) - 68 starts
  • Lee/Diaz (pick 1) - Brown, Urquidy - 54 starts
  • Contreras - Javier, Garica (every other start) - 40 starts

Then Contreras can play another 45 games in LF and 45 games at DH. Lee or Diaz get proper development. Maldy isn't overworked so maybe he can be more productive at the plate. Win-win-win.
Sign me up. Then next year, we roll Contreras with Framber, LMJ, Garcia and Javier. Diaz/Lee keep Brown and Urquidy.
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Prediction.
Crane is going to overspend for JV. It's not my money so I'll take it. And being aggressive with Abreu, possibly Contreras and even Brantley gives him shade that it didn't sacrifice bats to keep him. He does not want to be John McMullen giving away Nolan pt 2
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Big Al 1992 said:

Prediction.
Crane is going to overspend for JV. It's not my money so I'll take it. And being aggressive with Abreu, possibly Contreras and even Brantley gives him shade that it didn't sacrifice bats to keep him. He does not want to be John McMullen giving away Nolan pt 2
The difference is that JV can walk away and the Astros dynasty is going to keep rolling along. The '89-'93 Astros sucked. No one cares that Springer, Correa, Kuechel, Cole, Morton, etc are gone because we keep winning. JV will be no different.
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Is Yanier Diaz time with the organization numbered?

Should we be looking to trade him while his value is high? Seems like his openings with the big club is limited with Abreu addition
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Harry Dunne said:

irish pete ag06 said:

It would be a great signing, I don't give a damn about the past.
I'm with you 100%.

I was watching a thing about the USMNT '98 collapse (spoiler alert: Team captain John Harkes was boning best friend and teammate Eric Wynalda's wife). The coach booted Harkes even after Wynalda told him not to and the team turned against the coach for doing so.

where is this available to watch?
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Big Al 1992 said:

Prediction.
Crane is going to overspend for JV. It's not my money so I'll take it. And being aggressive with Abreu, possibly Contreras and even Brantley gives him shade that it didn't sacrifice bats to keep him. He does not want to be John McMullen giving away Nolan pt 2
If the Dodgers back up the Brinks truck for JV I think Crane will let him walk. We just paid Justin $91 million for just a single year of production. In hindsight we could have used that money elsewhere and perhaps we'd be celebrating our 3rd title (of course we'll never know).

I'd love to have him back but not for 3 years and $120 million or something ridiculous along those lines. Hopefully he lands in the NL although with LA I will be forced to hate him with a passion.
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I would rather sign Vazquez than contreras. probably much cheaper. spend the money elsewhere
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gigemJTH12 said:

I would rather sign Vazquez than contreras. probably much cheaper. spend the money elsewhere
Maybe sign Vazquez and Benintendi?
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astros4545 said:

Is Yanier Diaz time with the organization numbered?

Should we be looking to trade him while his value is high? Seems like his openings with the big club is limited with Abreu addition
IMO Lee is the guy we should be looking to sell on. I don't think he's going to hit at the big league level. Diaz has more upside. I'd rather give him the reps behind the plate and see if he develops.

If we do acquire a catcher (ie Vazquez or Contreras), I think we should make the move this offseason.
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BeaumontAg05 said:

Anyone see anything about where Mancini and Vasquez might be signing? Really liked those 2 and will pull for them other than against us that is.


Hadn't seen much on Mancini at all.

It's been the consensus that Vasquez would head to STL (and would be a perfect fit) now that Molina is retired.

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Wabs said:

gigemJTH12 said:

I would rather sign Vazquez than contreras. probably much cheaper. spend the money elsewhere
Maybe sign Vazquez and Benintendi?
I don't think Vazquez is interested in a backup job.
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