oh wow. Powers is really highly thought of. that's real bad. https://t.co/xPMG4rmI0d

— Craig Goldstein (@cdgoldstein) November 11, 2022

Apologies. Just being snarky. I can't stand Passan and always think he has an agenda. My bad.

scd88 said:

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Apologies. Just being snarky. I can't stand Passan and always think he has an agenda. My bad.

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He's a **** for sure. But news is news.

So we know who is feeding Nightengale info..

Was James Click's ouster after a World Series title, unprecedented?
Hardly.
Dave Dombrowski was fired eight months after winning the 2018 WS for the #RedSox.
Walt Jocketty was fired one year after winning the 2006 WS for the #STLCards. https://t.co/VYNdkfM0vc

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) November 11, 2022

BCSGrubber said:

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So we know who is feeding Nightengale info..

Was James Click's ouster after a World Series title, unprecedented?
Hardly.
Dave Dombrowski was fired eight months after winning the 2018 WS for the #RedSox.
Walt Jocketty was fired one year after winning the 2006 WS for the #STLCards. https://t.co/VYNdkfM0vc

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) November 11, 2022

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"Certainly, if Crane didn't trust Click during his three-year tenure with several front office executives frequently voicing their complaints about him to Crane he isn't going to trust all of those who Click personally hired."

That's crazy, seems like out of nowhere. I would think we would've heard about this at least once over the last three years.

So what was untrustworthy about Click?

Cross David Stearns off the Astros' GM candidate listhttps://t.co/EtcguF0Mr9

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) November 11, 2022

Farmer1906 said:

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Bring on Sig Mejdal!

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Comes with the added benefit of throwing a wrench into a rising AL rival. If we can pull it off, I'd love it.

My guess is that Stearns takes a year off (in his advisory role with Milwaukee), Crane gives "Interim GM" tag to someone internally for 2023, then we bring in Stearns next year.

No surprises Click is out. I know he and Crane didn't get along. Next guy up. Lunhow would be awe's but I doubt it. Seems too good to be true. With Stearns saying he's staying with the Brewers, who is on our list?

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zgood10 said:

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Get Luhnow on the horn

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Hell. No.

I appreciate what Lunhow built, but you cannot, cannot cost your team because of poor ethics. It's not just the cheating, it's the moves like Osuna. Brought uncessary heat all in the name of winning.

As Click proved, you can bring good guys in who are just as good, or in many cases better in the pursuit of wining.

Lunhow certainly can find talent in the guys to build an organization, but I don't trust him not to turn a blind eye.

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I hate losing more than I like winning.

I don't agree with your argument.

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Ok, I don't like losing either, but a manager who creates a terrible work environment and of appears to have some blurred ethical lines will eventually catch up to you and cause you to lose, no matter how good they are at evaluating talent, both on the field and in ops.

I'm perfectly comfortable in my position. There have been, and will be, guys who win and do it the right way. I'd rather have that guy, and it's not Lunhow.

I must say, much of the hand wringing isn't surprising to me on here this afternoon. Lots of traditional handles doing it and some folks I've never seen on here before. But I must say, Farmer, you have surprised me. You are usually the most level headed and thought out poster with facts logic and statistics...maybe because those type of things cant be applied here?

Have faith brother. All will be alright, the ship isn't sinking and we will weather this storm. In no way do I believe Crane would just immediately dump these guys without a plan, and if he did it had to be for a really good reason that he felt it had to change now.

On another note I dont know how any of you can seriously wear those trophy hats and shirts. The hat especially looks like it should be worn with the sticker intact, brim straight, backwards sitting on the top of your head

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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I must say, much of the hand wringing isn't surprising to me on here this afternoon. Lots of traditional handles doing it and some folks I've never seen on here before. But I must say, Farmer, you have surprised me. You are usually the most level headed and thought out poster with facts logic and statistics...maybe because those type of things cant be applied here?

Have faith brother. All will be alright, the ship isn't sinking and we will weather this storm. In no way do I believe Crane would just immediately dump these guys without a plan, and if he did it had to be for a really good reason that he felt it had to change now.

On another note I dont know how any of you can seriously wear those trophy hats and shirts. The hat especially looks like it should be worn with the sticker intact, brim straight, backwards sitting on the top of your head

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I think my take is on brand.

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I do know there are plenty of opportunities to make mistakes or miss opportunities. None of them is likely season-altering, but I like to have every edge possible.

I agree if Crane and Click weren't going to work, sever ties. But, hopefully, there is a plan in place to not miss a beat. Right now all the rumors are Bagwell, Jackson, & Ausmus helping out. If that's true, then there is a problem. I think everyone would agree with that.

I am all for upgrading. I think Sig would be awesome. I am less sold on Stearns, but I could be very wrong.

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What is wrong with wearing a hat like that?

I ordered some WS stuff the other night...I just looked at estimated deliveries..

Nov 29 for a hat, Dec 5 for some whiskey glasses. wow

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Farmer1906 said:

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HOU posted 112 wRC+ & scored 4.5 runs/game where he hit second. They posted 112 wRC+ & scored 4.5 runs/game when he did not hit second. This is cherrypicked and a bad way to evaluate the person who got 60% of the innings for one of the most dominant bullpens ever off scrap heaps. https://t.co/7hrGzKEU44

— Ben 🥇 (@midzee4) November 11, 2022

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I think that tweet from Bonda is petty and crappy.

It reads as Pena was the obvious 2-hole hitter and Click was stupid not to see it. Many, many didn't want Pena in the 2-hole, including many posters here. On paper, it didn't make sense during the season - he was not one of the top 4 hitters on the team.

Also, he didn't force Dusty to bat Pena somewhere else.

And I'm glad the tweet you quoted, Farmer, points that out.

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Many posters on here didn't want Altuve in the 1 hole either.

Farmer1906 said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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I must say, much of the hand wringing isn't surprising to me on here this afternoon. Lots of traditional handles doing it and some folks I've never seen on here before. But I must say, Farmer, you have surprised me. You are usually the most level headed and thought out poster with facts logic and statistics...maybe because those type of things cant be applied here?

Have faith brother. All will be alright, the ship isn't sinking and we will weather this storm. In no way do I believe Crane would just immediately dump these guys without a plan, and if he did it had to be for a really good reason that he felt it had to change now.

On another note I dont know how any of you can seriously wear those trophy hats and shirts. The hat especially looks like it should be worn with the sticker intact, brim straight, backwards sitting on the top of your head

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I think my take is on brand.

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I do know there are plenty of opportunities to make mistakes or miss opportunities. None of them is likely season-altering, but I like to have every edge possible.

I agree if Crane and Click weren't going to work, sever ties. But, hopefully, there is a plan in place to not miss a beat. Right now all the rumors are Bagwell, Jackson, & Ausmus helping out. If that's true, then there is a problem. I think everyone would agree with that.

I am all for upgrading. I think Sig would be awesome. I am less sold on Stearns, but I could be very wrong.

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What is wrong with wearing a hat like that?

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This isn't the take I'm talking about....I was referring to you multiple posts earlier which basically sounded like you thought Minute maid was burning down.

And the hat I thought it was self explanatory by the way I was saying it, but those styles are the worst things I could imagine and I would never be caught dead wearing them and I would assume most baseball purist on here would agree, that is why I am surprised why so many like that.