**** Joey Gallo's Quest for the All-Time Strikeout Record: The Official Thread *****

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To get this back on track, that chicken**** Aaron Boone didn't have the guts to pencil Jo Jo Gallo in his lineup.

It's 4 games to the end of the season and the Yankees are locked in a massive battle for a wild card spot. And that chode muncher left Gallo off.

I don't know what more Boone expects. It's not like Gallo started playing this way in the last two weeks.
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Thanks for taking over Mathguy64.

It would be a shame to falter so close to the finish line. I hope Gallo has the same attitude.
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Well lookie here. Aaron Boone is going to roll the dice. Our boy is not just in the lineup tonight but occupying the 5 hole.

For those keeping score the Yankees 5 hole hitter is batting .199 with 210 K's on the year. He's down to .157 and 84 Ks in 55 games and 178 ABs as a Yankee. He's almost at a 50% strikeout rate.
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Joey immediately rewarded the confidence his manager showed in him by striking out looking. So he's up to 211 and down to .198. Nice.

He's officially tied for 6th and next up is 5th place at 212 and Chris "salary thief" Carter.
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You can do it, Joey!
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Jo Jo update. He's 0fer 3 with that one backwards K. Still hanging at .198 with rounding. Maybe he is afraid of Chris Carter.
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Our poster boy just got himself a hit. A massive 29 foot, 1 degree of launch angle 40.7 MPH exit velo crush job with an xBA of .190.

When your xBA on a hit is basically your real BA it's a neat thing.
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The wrap up tonight has Mr Gallo at .198 and 211, one back of the aforementioned Mr Carter who sits at 212. From there it's a big jump up to 217 and only two more games in the regular season.

But that may not be the end of our story. Right now the Yankees have a one game lead over Boston and by the end of the night could be tied with Seattle in the WC with Toronto just 1 game back. That means tie breaker time and those stats I think will count in the regular season. So we could see the Yankees get one or maybe two extra chances for Mr Gallo to do what he does best.

So stay tuned!
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The Yankees have the early game today and Aaron Boone is again being a strong advocate for our boy. Joseph is once again holding down the lynchpin #5 spot.

Today he is but one tree in the forest as the Yankees are sporting not one, not 2 but 5 other players over 100Ks and one more at 99. Joseph at 211, followed by frick and frack (Judge and Stanton) at 154 and 157. In fact if Mr Barry Bonds Enlarged Dome Brett Gardner gets one more strikeout they can sport 100+ guys from the 3 hole to the 8 spot.
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Mathguy64 said:

The Yankees have the early game today and Aaron Boone is again being a strong advocate for our boy. Joseph is once again holding down the lynchpin #5 spot.

Today he is but one tree in the forest as the Yankees are sporting not one, not 2 but 5 other players over 100Ks and one more at 99. Joseph at 211, followed by frick and frack (Judge and Stanton) at 154 and 157. In fact if Mr Barry Bonds Enlarged Dome Brett Gardner gets one more strikeout they can sport 100+ guys from the 3 hole to the 8 spot.
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4th inning, his team is down 7-2 but Joseph is working hard. A hit brings him to the Mendoza line at .200. But a K gets him a tie for 5th at 212 with Chris "waste of a roster spot" Carter. Yin and Yang.
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Chris Carter must have taken a family member of yours out to a nice dinner and never called her back
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Gallo adds another.
He's going down fighting.

Three of the Top 11 strikeout seasons all-time, and he still has a year left of Yankee control before his first big contract. His whiffing prime lies before him.
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Sea Speed said:

Chris Carter must have taken a family member of yours out to a nice dinner and never called her back


You clearly never had the displeasure of watching Chris Carter play for your team.
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So Jo Jo finished the day at 213 owning the 5th place all by himself. 4th is Yoan Moncada at 217. It's will take a golden sombrero or a game 163 or more to get there. But Jo Jo has the ability in him to get that sombrero.

How big are those games that Boone sat him?

Since he's sitting right at .200. The question is will Boone let him even play and risk dipping below the line? Ted Williams played and risked it. So should Joey.
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Joey probably upset that his shot at the record was ruined by a crappy manager.
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This gets better. I've been pretty careful with the counting and checking yahoo sports, baseball reference and fangraphs each day and something happened to his count yesterday. He was at 210 yesterday and with the opening K was at 211. Today everyone has him listed back at 210. I have no idea what happened or if the official stats haven't caught up but as of right now everything says he's at 212. So unless something changes again he's back tied for 5th with Carter.

Matt Chapman is second this season at 201. That was before the game yesterday and he didn't play yesterday.
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To finish this off today, Joey is officially at 212 and tied with Carter for 5th. All the stat sites agree now. Who knows what happened. So he needs one more to take solo possession of 5th and he has the game today plus a possible game 163 tie breaker to get there. May the baseball gods grant us such a rare cluster. 4th is Moncada at 217. Getting there would take a Platinum Sombrero today or that game 163 and some work.

He's also sitting at 99 hits in 496 ABs so he's sitting at .200 only by the grace of 3 digit rounding. Technically he's at .19959677. For the math challenged that is 20 hundred thousandths from being at .199. I really wonder if Boone plays him today given the stigma of dropping below that dubious line. If he plays today he needs at least one hit to avoid dropping into Mendozaland. Even an 0 for 1 day puts him at .1991. The little nugget not to be lost is he hasn't gotten to 100 hits.

He also has 38 HRs and only 77 RBI. So besides driving in himself he's only accounted for 39 other runs during the season. In his time with Da Jankees he has 13 HRs and 22 RBI. So in 186 ABs he has driven in 9 people not named Joey Gallo. That's remarkable.

Lastly 360 of his 613 PA have been a HR, BB or K. True outcomes indeed.

Historically he's in 466th at 884 for his career. If he gets a sombrero today he would be tied with Rusty Staub at 888 K's. Gallo has 2398 PA and a sombrero would have him at 2402 PAs. It took Staub a whopping 23 seasons and 11229 PA's to get there.

Matt Chapman has very quietly had a solid year with 202 K's, good for 15th place in history. Next up is Mark Reynolds's at 204.

It's been a very good year.
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Our story does not yet have an ending. Sir Gallohead is in the 5 hole. Kudos to him and his manager for giving him the chance to literally go down swinging.

Chapman on the other hand is taking the last day off. He may be holding pat.
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Joey is 0-1. No K but he's officially under water on the BA.

Update. A BB for our boy so he's stuck at 99 hits, 212 Ks and under the magic Mendoza line.
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The storybook season is complete. 0-2 to finish it up with a K and BB. So the poster child of modern offensive baseball finishes in 5th place at 213 K's for the season, 99 hits and a .199 BA. He also accomplished what we all thought impossible and carded a sac fly, the second of his illustrious 7 years in the league.

I'm sure someone somewhere thinks it's successful.
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For me this thread is done. Hopefully everyone enjoyed the incredible sarcasm that went into picking fun at the King of Three True Outcomes. I will say it was fun tracking baseball history as it happened.

I will also say that I will end with a difficult conclusion and one that may not be popular.

We all know what happened here this last week. I am willing to separate the poster known as Fat Bib Fortuna who started this thread from the live person behind the anonymous account. I don't know that person in real live and will likely never meet them. I won't attempt to pass any moral judgment on that person. That is not my place. Whatever that real person did in real life for me had no bearing on the thread they created here. All I know is the poster Fat Bib Fortuna clearly enjoyed baseball. FBF created an amazing idea; to watch Joey Gallo, Matt Chapman, Eugenio Suarez and all the rest of the True Outcome players go at history. It wasn't to pick at the Rangers, but to pick at this all or nothing trend in baseball. In the end we got to witness a little history. And those of us that follow and enjoy baseball were better for it.

Where ever Fat Bib Fortuna is, if you read this, thank you for starting it. It was an enjoyable story that you started. Hopefully I finished the last chapter to your satisfaction.

On to playoff baseball!!!!!!!!!
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Where ever Fat Bib Fortuna is,


Try the dressing room at Gap Kids
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Mathguy64 said:

carded a sac fly, the second of his illustrious 7 years in the league.

I'm sure someone somewhere thinks it's successful.
is this correct? he's only had two sac flies in his entire big league career?
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AustinCountyAg said:

Mathguy64 said:

carded a sac fly, the second of his illustrious 7 years in the league.

I'm sure someone somewhere thinks it's successful.
is this correct? he's only had two sac flies in his entire big league career?
2400 PAs and 2100 ABs and a whopping 2, count'em 2, sacrifice flies. Its not a true outcome so Jo Jo doesnt believe in them.
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Joey is fortunate he's a millennial.

Absent OPS, slugging percentage, valuing walks, and all the other metrosexual stats, he'd have never made it - much less be in line for a big FA contract that will dwarf the career earnings of MLB rosters up until the 80s.

His 200 plus strikeouts and sub .200 batting average would have killed him for most of the last century, but now he's a deadline acquisition for a Yankees team going all in. He's a child of destiny.
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Fortunate indeed. Because by any stretch Joey Gallo was a strange statistical cat this year. And during his 58 games with the Yankees not very good at actually doing what he was paid to do.

For the NYY, he had 188 AB's and 228 PA's. He slashed .160/.303/.404, for an OPS of .707 and OPS+ of 93. so hes 7% under average for teh league. He has 88 K's in those 188 AB's for a nice tidy 46.8% strike out rate. Prorated to 600 AB's that's 281 K's. He would have obliterated the old record in August. Mid August

But he hits HR's. Ok He hit 13 for NYY and drove in 22 runs. Thats 9 people besides Joey Gallo who he drove in during those 188 AB's. But its really worse. During those 13 HR's he actually had 7 men on base. So in the 175 AB's where he didnt hit a HR, he drove in 2 yes 2 people. And one of those on his magical sac fly and thats not counted as an AB. So its really 175 AB's and 1 run. One. Uno. Juan. You could not try and be less productive as a hitter. And all this is in a park where they all but take Uber to get a ball out to right field. I mean you can hit a weak pop up and it will carry over that fence in Yankees Stadium in RF.

Deeper, his bWAR was 0.4, WAA was -0.3 (yes negative) and his RAA was -4. Negative freaking 4 runs against average.

The only saving grace? The Yankees werent paying for this lack or production this year.

Its a good argument that Joey maximixed his true outcomes this year, or at least did it better than anyone has before. And it resulted in some really really really bad production.
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Mathguy64 said:

Fortunate indeed. Because by any stretch Joey Gallo was a strange statistical cat this year. And during his 58 games with the Yankees not very good at actually doing what he was paid to do.

For the NYY, he had 188 AB's and 228 PA's. He slashed .160/.303/.404, for an OPS of .707 and OPS+ of 93. so hes 7% under average for teh league. He has 88 K's in those 188 AB's for a nice tidy 46.8% strike out rate. Prorated to 600 AB's that's 281 K's. He would have obliterated the old record in August. Mid August

But he hits HR's. Ok He hit 13 for NYY and drove in 22 runs. Thats 9 people besides Joey Gallo who he drove in during those 188 AB's. But its really worse. During those 13 HR's he actually had 7 men on base. So in the 175 AB's where he didnt hit a HR, he drove in 2 yes 2 people. And one of those on his magical sac fly and thats not counted as an AB. So its really 175 AB's and 1 run. One. Uno. Juan. You could not try and be less productive as a hitter. And all this is in a park where they all but take Uber to get a ball out to right field. I mean you can hit a weak pop up and it will carry over that fence in Yankees Stadium in RF.

Deeper, his bWAR was 0.4, WAA was -0.3 (yes negative) and his RAA was -4. Negative freaking 4 runs against average.

The only saving grace? The Yankees werent paying for this lack or production this year.

Its a good argument that Joey maximixed his true outcomes this year, or at least did it better than anyone has before. And it resulted in some really really really bad production.
and he's in the clean-up spot tonight.
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This will be his time to shine in his first postseason. It's 23 strike outs to crack the top 10 for a single postseason, and 72 to crack the top 10 all time list.
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

This will be his time to shine in his first postseason. It's 23 strike outs to crack the top 10 for a single postseason, and 72 to crack the top 10 all time list.
Yes. But when the Yankees go one and done tonight its over for him
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1 AB = 1K
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With the injury to Max Muncy, the Dodgers are forced to use the 2019 MVP who has drastically fallen off a cliff in the wild card. Bellinger is already 10th on the all time postseason strike out list, and a mere 7 more will thrust him into the top 5. Carlos Correa is not too far out of the current top 10 needing just 6 more to tie Bellinger's current total before tonight.
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Deadspin's salute to Joey Gallo's 2021 season

https://deadspin.com/joey-gallo-is-this-generation-s-adam-dunn-1847912495
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Interesting article. Further evidence that he doesn't belong in professional baseball. How damning of a statistical conclusion is this statement?

"It's actually because when Gallo does swing, he never makes contact."
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South Platte said:

Interesting article. Further evidence that he doesn't belong in professional baseball. How damning of a statistical conclusion is this statement?

"It's actually because when Gallo does swing, he never makes contact."
And yet, he'll end up with a $100 million contract.
 
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