**** Joey Gallo's Quest for the All-Time Strikeout Record: The Official Thread *****

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In reply to _lefraud_ • 10:29a, 5/27/21
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_lefraud_ said:
I'm shocked that Pujols doesn't make the top10

12. Pujols - 1321
16. Trout - 1215

Just another reminder how dominant his stl tenure really was. Angels make up 40% of his plate appearances, but 46% of his K's.

He's also never had a 100 K season, even though he has 3 seasons of 700 plate appearances while with stl.

Our hero and thread namesake is on pace to get 100 k's before crossing 300 plate appearances.
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In reply to _lefraud_ • 10:29a, 5/27/21
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_lefraud_ said:
I'm shocked that Pujols doesn't make the top10

12. Pujols - 1321
16. Trout - 1215


I was surprised Pujols isn't higher on the list due to longevity. Trout is one of the ones that surprises me. However, Trout averages .93 Ks per game through 2020 while Gallo averaged 1.42 Ks per game through 2020.

At his current pace, Gallo will pass Griffey on the all time list at 1252 games played. It took Griffey 22 years to rack up those Ks at .67 Ks per game.
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10:31a, 5/27/21
Active Leaders:

Justin Upton: 1,890
Chris Davis, 1,852
Miguel Cabrera 1,845
Nelson Cruz, 1,658
Evan Longoria, 1,509



Altuve? He's 88th with 684. He's played 4 more seasons than Gallo and is already 11 spots behind him on the list.
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In reply to The Milkman • 10:35a, 5/27/21
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The Milkman said:
Young Pujols was so good at not striking out he still has more career walks than K's. Now he never walks. I was hoping he'd be able to retire with that still intact, but its not looking promising unless he gets hurt and stops playing.

I doubt there is anyone in the league who has more career BB than K.

We talking current players or any?
I know Bonds does
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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 10:35a, 5/27/21
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I got 3 out of 5
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10:45a, 5/27/21
Active players with more walks than K's

Pujols: 1,334 > 1,321

That's it. At least of guys currently in the top 100 of walks or strikeouts.

Alex Bregman is one of the closest to being equal in the two categories. He's at 329 walks and 368 strikeouts. He'd be a candidate to get there long term. In 2016-2017, he had 70 walks and 149 strikeouts. From 2018 up to the present, he's at 259 walks and 219 strikeouts.

I can't help but turn back the clock and marvel at guys like Gwynn and Boggs.

Gwynn finished with 790 walks and 434 strikeouts. His career high in strikeouts was 40 in 1988 when he still won the batting title.

Boggs had 1,412 walks and 745 strikeouts. His only season with more strikeouts than walks was 1998 (54 to 46) when he was 40.



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In reply to Fuzzy Dunlop • 10:53a, 5/27/21
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Fuzzy Dunlop said:
I was surprised Pujols isn't higher on the list due to longevity. Trout is one of the ones that surprises me. However, Trout averages .93 Ks per game through 2020 while Gallo averaged 1.42 Ks per game through 2020.

At his current pace, Gallo will pass Griffey on the all time list at 1252 games played. It took Griffey 22 years to rack up those Ks at .67 Ks per game.

Continuing on this concept, looking at the extreme other end of the anti-Gallo spectrum if you will:

Who is this mystery man?

20 seasons
2440 games
9288 ABs
790 BBs
434 Ks

Gallo eclipsed this player's meager strikeout total in about 3.5 seasons and only 10% of the total at-bats -- talk about major productivity!

The dead giveaway is this player was a lifetime .338 hitter. You might be somewhat surprised that said player's OPS is also ~30 points higher than Gallo at .847.

Tony Gwynn was just absurd.

ETA: my plan was foiled anyway because Fat Bib's previous post
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In reply to RED AG 98 • 11:07a, 5/27/21
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Use straight brackets ([]) instead of squiggly ones ({}) for your tags
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In reply to bluefire579 • 11:09a, 5/27/21
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doh! thanks
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11:11a, 5/27/21
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So having peeked at the actual list all I can say is that owner is really good at giving away huge contracts to players that do not generate any return. He's not shy about paying players that's for sure.
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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 11:17a, 5/27/21
Fat Bib Fortuna said:


Boggs had 1,412 walks and 745 strikeouts. His only season with more walks than strikeouts was 1998 (54 to 46) when he was 40.



did you mean more Ks than walks for 1998?

either way, damn impressive!
Let it ride
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6:31p, 5/27/21
Holy ****, the Eugenio Suarez as a leadoff man thing is actually working, which could ruin his chances of a) breaking the all-time strikeout mark and b) have more strikeouts than batting average points.

Since David Bell put Suarez in the leadoff role, he's gone 4-for-10 with 2 home runs, including a leadoff one tonight. He struck out 3 times all on Tuesday but I don't like this trend. If Suarez suddenly starts "getting hits" and "becoming a sub-average player", I'm afraid that Joey Marshmallow might ease up on the throttle and just try to coast to the MLB strikeout title. Homey (and I'm referring to myself here as 'Homey' despite being a white 47 year old guy who literally lives in the suburbs and drives a minivan) don't play that. With his home run tonight, he's up to .162 on the year, the highest his average has been in 10 days.


What I didn't realize about the Reds - mostly because they are the Reds - is that the two guys hitting behind Suarez have the two highest averages in the National League. Household names Jesse Winker (.360 entering tonight's game) and Nick Castellanos (.355) are tearing the NL up. Winker has 13 HR and Castellanos has 31 RBI.

The best part of that is that despite having incredible seasons, neither of them has played in as many games as Suarez nor had as many at-bats. And until the first inning tonight, both were hitting 200 points higher than the guy. Not 50, not 75, TWO HUNDRED.

More later as Joey G tries to be the first guy to 70 strikeouts. He's up to 739 for his career, good for 655th place. A lot of big names coming up in the next week or so - Manny Trillo, Ron Kittle, who was basically 1980s Joey Gallo - from 1986-1986 he averaged almost a strikeout per game, never hit above .230, but knocked 21-32 HRs a year, and Wade Boggs all coming into target range.


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9:36p, 5/27/21
BREAKING: Joey Gallo has struck out for the 70th time this season.
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10:01p, 5/27/21
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Can anyone post the current strikeout leaders (obviously hitters not pitchers) in MLB? I can't even figure out how to search for that.
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10:27p, 5/27/21
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Current as in active career or season?
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In reply to WestTexasAg • 6:55a, 5/28/21
WestTexasAg said:
Can anyone post the current strikeout leaders (obviously hitters not pitchers) in MLB? I can't even figure out how to search for that.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/player/_/view/batting

click on the K category and it will sort top to bottom, giving you full, 360-degree viewership of the Joey Gallo experience. Up to 71! 5-strikeout lead on Suarez!
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8:04a, 5/28/21
We all know Joey can hit, but check out the wheels Monday night!

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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 9:55p, 5/28/21
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:
WestTexasAg said:
Can anyone post the current strikeout leaders (obviously hitters not pitchers) in MLB? I can't even figure out how to search for that.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/player/_/view/batting

click on the K category and it will sort top to bottom, giving you full, 360-degree viewership of the Joey Gallo experience. Up to 71! 5-strikeout lead on Suarez!
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7:43a, 5/29/21
Joey G updates will be reduced the next 3 days per memorial day travel. Our main man did whiff for the 72nd time last night.
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11:37p, 5/30/21
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Just to keep things flowing, without all the fancy, entertaining writing...

Joey G had 1 strikeout last night and none tonight He's up to 73 on the season
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10:09p, 5/31/21
A truly wild holiday weekend, one that made me realize that how can I expect Joey Gallo to perform at 100% when I'm taking time off from the update game. Mea culpa, Sr.Rooster.

Long story short, Joey Gallo still leads the MLB in strikeouts, but his lead is down to just 3 strikeouts over 3 players - his compatriots Eugenio Suarez and Matt Chapman, and Cubs' shortstop Javier Baez who has surged into the race as of late. Let's see where we stand right now.

#1 Joey Gallo:
73 strikeouts in 55 games. .216 average. Pace: 215 strikeouts

#2 Javier Baez
70 strikeouts in 53 games, .236 average,. Pace: 214 strikeouts

#3 Eugenio Suarez
70 strikeouts in 52 games. .160 average. Pace: 218 strikeouts

#4 Matt Chapman
70 strikeouts in 56 games. .203 average. Pace: 202 strikeouts.

I'm definitely a little bummed that Joey has fallen off the record-setting pace, but look at those projections! FOUR guys on pace for 200 strikeouts or more. That's exciting in its own right. Baez really came into his own this weekend with 2 strikeouts on Saturday and 3 more on Sunday. That's the kind of groove I keep waiting for Joey to get back into. God knows he's capable, it's just a matter of getting the bat anywhere except on the ball.

What's on deck this week?
Gallo: At Colorado, home for Tampa Bay
Baez: Home for San Diego, at San Francisco
Suarez: Home for Philadelphia, at St. Louis
Chapman: At Seattle, at Colorado
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In reply to Chrundle the Great • 9:51a, 6/1/21
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Chrundle the Great said:
The Milkman said:
Young Pujols was so good at not striking out he still has more career walks than K's. Now he never walks. I was hoping he'd be able to retire with that still intact, but its not looking promising unless he gets hurt and stops playing.

I doubt there is anyone in the league who has more career BB than K.

We talking current players or any?
I know Bonds does
Current. Plenty of older ones do, but current style of play doesn't really let it happen anymore
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In reply to The Milkman • 1:59p, 6/1/21
The Milkman said:
Chrundle the Great said:
The Milkman said:
Young Pujols was so good at not striking out he still has more career walks than K's. Now he never walks. I was hoping he'd be able to retire with that still intact, but its not looking promising unless he gets hurt and stops playing.

I doubt there is anyone in the league who has more career BB than K.

We talking current players or any?
I know Bonds does
Current. Plenty of older ones do, but current style of play doesn't really let it happen anymore
Top 10 guys in career walks and their corresponding K #s

1. Barry Bonds 2,558 walks, 1,539 strikeouts: +1,019 walks
2. Ricky Henderson 2,190 walks, 1,694 strikeouts: +496 walks
3. Babe Ruth 2,062 walks, 1,330 strikeouts: +732 walks
4. Ted Williams 2,021 walks, 709 strikeouts: +1,312 walks
5. Joe Morgan 1,865 walks, 1,015 strikeouts: +850 walks
6. Carl Yastrzemski 1,845 walks, 1,393 strikeouts: +452 walks
7. Jim Thome 1,747 walks, 2,548 strikeouts: +801 strikeouts
8. Mickey Mantle: 1,733 walks, 1,710 strikeouts: +23 walks
9. Mel Ott: 1,708 walks, 896 strikeouts, +812 walks
10. Frank Thomas: 1,667 walks, 1,397 strikeouts: +270 walks


Wanna feel old? Big Hurt and Bagwell both turned 53 years old on May 27.


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8:07p, 6/1/21
Joey Gallileo has heard the footsteps, he's heard the whispers that maybe he's not the guy to strike out 224 times in a season. He's heard what amount to a racial slur for him, being called a "contact hitter" lately, and he will not let his manhood be challenged, starting off tonight with whiff #74.
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10:22p, 6/1/21
Oh boy it's the kind of night I've been waiting a month for. Joey G just notched his third strikeout of the night! And unless the Rockies score in the bottom of the ninth, we're headed for extra innings and an outside shot at the Golden Sombrero.
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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 11:11p, 6/1/21
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:
Oh boy it's the kind of night I've been waiting a month for. Joey G just notched his third strikeout of the night! And unless the Rockies score in the bottom of the ninth, we're headed for extra innings and an outside shot at the Golden Sombrero.

Chapman stays on his heels though, 3 ks in 3 abs so far tonight too (7th inning now)
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12:03p, 6/2/21
The leader board update June 2, 2021.

Joey Gallo: 76 strikeouts in 56 games, Pace: 220. Average: .211

Matt Chapman: 73 strikeouts in 57 games, Pace: 207. Average: .198

Javier Baez: 71 strikeouts in 54 games, Pace: 213. Average: .255

Eugenio Suarez: 70 strikeouts in 53 games, Pace: 214. Average: .162

With his three whiffs yesterday, Joseph "Danger" Gallo has caught Pablo Sandoval on both the all-time and active strikeout lists at 748, good for 642nd place overall. Now let's say Joey gets to 220 strikeouts this year, his current pace. That would be another 144 strikeouts added to his already substantial total. If he were to add 144 whiffs to the tally, he could jump another TWO HUNDRED SPOTS in the all-time leader board.


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1:29p, 6/2/21
When I check A's fans' temperature (via game threads) when we play them they seem resigned to their window closing for a bit after they aren't able to retain the "Matts" due to payroll, yada, yada. However while Olson is as good as gone Chapman might be playing himself into being close to affordable for the Athletics.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/olsonma02.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chapmma01.shtml

My apologies on the Gallo thread, and let this be but a momentary diversion after Gallo's day off.
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2:45p, 6/2/21
Javier Baez has whiffed for the 71st time. He trails Joey G by 5 K's.

I referenced the Golden Sombrero last night. Joey Gallo has achieved this masterful feat 17 times in his short, storied career. That ties him for 11th in MLB history with Sammy Sosa and Rob Deer.

Who is the career leader in Golden Sombreros with an eye-popping 27? No WIkipedia please.

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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 2:47p, 6/2/21
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Dunn?
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3:01p, 6/2/21
Not yet.
I'm going with Reggie Jackson.
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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 3:09p, 6/2/21
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Chris Davis or Giancarlo Stanton.
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3:09p, 6/2/21
Neither is correct, and I was off on Baez. He just struck out again and is actually up to 73 now.
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3:11p, 6/2/21
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I'm going with Mark Reynolds

Had to wear it more than a few times to set the single season record and break it himself
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5:16p, 6/2/21
Still no winner on the golden Sombrero. Baez with the hat trick today, up to 74.
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