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AggieEP
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Smeghead4761 said:

AgRyan04 said:

Thinking about HOFers....how many World Series champions that didn't have a HOFer on the roster?

Starting in '00 and going backwards, most have at least two.

1997 Marlins - 0 - but could make the case Sheffield should be but isn't because of steroids

The 1988 Dodgers barely with 43 year old Don Sutton on the roster

1981 Dodgers - 0

The Dodgera are saved by Don Sutton again in 1978....but he was at least a contributor on that squad

That's all I see going back to the 50s
A couple of years more recent that your search, but there weren't any on the 2002 Angels. Actually, at the current time, neither team in that Series has a HoF player. I would guess that Dusty Baker will get in eventually as a manager.

Probably a bit recent to for the 2015 Royals to be really looked at.

With the 2010-2012-2014 Giants, I really only see one - Buster Posey.


MadBum might get a look for the postseason dominance, but agreed that Posey is the most likely from those squads.

Re: the 2015 Royals, all main contributors from that roster are out of baseball except for Salvy. He's the only possible HOF from that team, and I tend to think that he likely gets in with another good year or two.

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AggieEP said:

Smeghead4761 said:

AgRyan04 said:

Thinking about HOFers....how many World Series champions that didn't have a HOFer on the roster?

Starting in '00 and going backwards, most have at least two.

1997 Marlins - 0 - but could make the case Sheffield should be but isn't because of steroids

The 1988 Dodgers barely with 43 year old Don Sutton on the roster

1981 Dodgers - 0

The Dodgera are saved by Don Sutton again in 1978....but he was at least a contributor on that squad

That's all I see going back to the 50s
A couple of years more recent that your search, but there weren't any on the 2002 Angels. Actually, at the current time, neither team in that Series has a HoF player. I would guess that Dusty Baker will get in eventually as a manager.

Probably a bit recent to for the 2015 Royals to be really looked at.

With the 2010-2012-2014 Giants, I really only see one - Buster Posey.


MadBum might get a look for the postseason dominance, but agreed that Posey is the most likely from those squads.

Re: the 2015 Royals, all main contributors from that roster are out of baseball except for Salvy. He's the only possible HOF from that team, and I tend to think that he likely gets in with another good year or two.


Would you count Bruce Bochy, who I think has a very good chance to go in as a manager, especially after guiding the Rangers to a title as well?
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AgRyan04 said:

Thinking about HOFers....how many World Series champions that didn't have a HOFer on the roster?

Starting in '00 and going backwards, most have at least two.

1997 Marlins - 0 - but could make the case Sheffield should be but isn't because of steroids

The 1988 Dodgers barely with 43 year old Don Sutton on the roster

1981 Dodgers - 0

The Dodgera are saved by Don Sutton again in 1978....but he was at least a contributor on that squad

That's all I see going back to the 50s
I think that Kevin Brown should be in and will eventually. You could make the case for Orel Hershiser and Kevin Appier with some of the garbage that has gotten in recent years.
hawk1689
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AggieEP said:

I can see the 2015 Royals team maybe finishing with no HOFs, the only guy with any sort of chance is Salvador Perez.

ETA that Salvy will be an interesting HOF case because of an extremely low career WAR matched with a likable guy with lots of accolades.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Perez gets the vote. He was the best catcher of the 2010's. He'll have at least 9 all star selections and 5 gold gloves.
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hawk1689 said:

AgRyan04 said:

Thinking about HOFers....how many World Series champions that didn't have a HOFer on the roster?

Starting in '00 and going backwards, most have at least two.

1997 Marlins - 0 - but could make the case Sheffield should be but isn't because of steroids

The 1988 Dodgers barely with 43 year old Don Sutton on the roster

1981 Dodgers - 0

The Dodgera are saved by Don Sutton again in 1978....but he was at least a contributor on that squad

That's all I see going back to the 50s
I think that Kevin Brown should be in and will eventually. You could make the case for Orel Hershiser and Kevin Appier with some of the garbage that has gotten in recent years.


There are a SLEW of guys in that next tier that are licking their chops thanks to Jack Morris and Sabathia.

Just off the top of my head....
Luis Tiant
Kevin Brown
Oral Hershiser
Kevin Appier
Rick Sutcliffe
Bret Saberhagen
David Cone
Doc Gooden
Fernando Valenzuela
Andy Pettite
Dave Stewart
Roy Oswalt
Carlos Zambrano
Johan Santana
Yu Darvish
Mike Hampton
Tim Lincecum
Barry Zito
Jon Lester
Corey Kluber
Jacob deGrom
Blake Snell
David Price
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hawk1689
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AgRyan04 said:

hawk1689 said:

AgRyan04 said:

Thinking about HOFers....how many World Series champions that didn't have a HOFer on the roster?

Starting in '00 and going backwards, most have at least two.

1997 Marlins - 0 - but could make the case Sheffield should be but isn't because of steroids

The 1988 Dodgers barely with 43 year old Don Sutton on the roster

1981 Dodgers - 0

The Dodgera are saved by Don Sutton again in 1978....but he was at least a contributor on that squad

That's all I see going back to the 50s
I think that Kevin Brown should be in and will eventually. You could make the case for Orel Hershiser and Kevin Appier with some of the garbage that has gotten in recent years.


There are a SLEW of guys in that next tier that are licking their chops thanks to Jack Morris and Sabathia.

Just off the top of my head....
Luis Tiant
Kevin Brown
Oral Hershiser
Kevin Appier
Rick Sutcliffe
Bret Saberhagen
David Cone
Doc Gooden
Fernando Valenzuela
Andy Pettite
Dave Stewart
Roy Oswalt
Carlos Zambrano
Johan Santana
Yu Darvish
Mike Hampton
Tim Lincecum
Barry Zito
Jon Lester
Corey Kluber
Jacob deGrom
Blake Snell
David Price
Can't argue that...except maybe Sutcliffe, Zambrano, and Zito!

I think Schilling needs to go in ahead of all of them.
Corporal Punishment
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This is tedious…

In 1980 Texas Rangers outfielder Al Oliver led the league in games played with 163. He played for no other team that season. The Rangers went 76-85. 161 games total. Why the discrepancy? It appears to be related to a June 2nd game at Comiskey that was called (suspended?) in the bottom of the 6th tied 1-1. On July 26th the same box score shows up as game 2 of a doubleheader at Comiskey. Did they double count player stats from that one unfinished game?

June 2
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA198006020.shtml

July 26
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA198007262.shtml

Also, the two teams played yet another doubleheader the following day but this appears to be unrelated to the confounding game counts.
BoxingAg84
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Wags chimes in.



 
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