****2020 Official Houston Astros We Don't Have To Cheat To Beat You Season Thread****

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Brewers just clinched the Playoffs at under .500 as well

At least we aren't the only ones now
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yep, that was the goodbye tweet (or the first one)
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Dang. 2020 has been ugly in a myriad of ways.
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For the record I'm not happy or gloating about guessing they would finish poorly. It sickens me to watch this lineup play so poorly. I get the pitching is patchwork at best. But the hitters have by and large crapped the bed most of the season. This whole season has been one great big cluster and the joy of it has been taken away and it pisses me off. Maybe we will catch lighting in a bottle.

Take this as my apology.

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Regular season MVP probably hast to go to Tucker or Springer. I'd say Tucker because he was really clutch when everybody else was really cold
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With all honesty, I'm not sure we really have an MVP. No one has been consistently "good" throughout this entire debacle.
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mwm said:

With all honesty, I'm not sure we really have an MVP. No one has been consistently "good" throughout this entire debacle.


True. Most consistent player was Brantley most likely

I'd still say Tucker was our MVP because without him we likely are scoreboard watching today to see if we are in. He had big clutch hits in that win streak during low scoring games.
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the Astros finish 9-23 on the road. They were just awful away from MMP
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strangely enough...the Astros 10-10 interleague record saved them.

the Mariners were only 7-13 vs. the NL West.

and likewise the Angels were 7-13
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Well this year sucked. Turn it around in the playoffs, boys. Do some damage.
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I'm hoping we were slow playing the season and are gonna come out swinging next week.
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have to take a moment to chide the Phillies (28-32).

had a luxury tax payroll of $208 MM including 9 players making over $10 MM --- highlighted by Harper at $30 MM...

but went 3-7 down the stretch to fall out of a playoff spot
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Mathguy64 said:

For the record I'm not happy or gloating about guessing they would finish poorly. It sickens me to watch this lineup play so poorly. I get the pitching is patchwork at best. But the hitters have by and large crapped the bed most of the season.
The weird thing is that this is pretty much the same lineup that rivaled the 1927 Yankees in wRC+ last year. Is there any other sport where you can just seemingly lose your talent in one offseason? Imagine if a basketball team had a team free throw percentage of 85% one season and the next season the same players shot 65%.

Baseball is so psychological.
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Frok said:

Farmer1906 said:

Here is a big pick me to get us back on track



Oh wait that's just depressing.


He's gone. Every time you see something like this they are not planning on staying.


I promise you he will stay if we offer him the most money. It's just as much on us as it is in him.

I am against giving "older" guys long contracts. But I am pro George Springer. So this is tough.

I'll be selfish and hope the market is flat out terrible and we get George on the cheap (relative here, based on what he could have gotten in a pre Covid world).
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AggieLit said:

Mathguy64 said:

For the record I'm not happy or gloating about guessing they would finish poorly. It sickens me to watch this lineup play so poorly. I get the pitching is patchwork at best. But the hitters have by and large crapped the bed most of the season.
The weird thing is that this is pretty much the same lineup that rivaled the 1927 Yankees in wRC+ last year. Is there any other sport where you can just seemingly lose your talent in one offseason? Imagine if a basketball team had a team free throw percentage of 85% one season and the next season the same players shot 65%.

Baseball is so psychological.



Yup. And if bet you could pull a stretch of 60 games we're we weren't very good and a stretch of 60 where we would have murdered the 27 Yankees face off.

I wouldn't take let this season outweigh or matter as much as a full 162 one when judging the players.

This also gives out reason to believe these guys still have a legit shot of making some magic happen in October.
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Farmer1906 said:

Frok said:

Farmer1906 said:

Here is a big pick me to get us back on track



Oh wait that's just depressing.


He's gone. Every time you see something like this they are not planning on staying.


I promise you he will stay if we offer him the most money. It's just as much on us as it is in him.

I am against giving "older" guys long contracts. But I am pro George Springer. So this is tough.

I'll be selfish and hope the market is flat out terrible and we get George on the cheap (relative here, based on what he could have gotten in a pre Covid world).


Yeah it will be a tough call. I think Crane should make an exception and keep Springer because he is the face of this Astros era. But I understand that he likely isn't worth the contract he will get.
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the key with a potential Springer contract...

it needs to be money-per-year-heavy as opposed to number-of-years-heavy.

better to go 4 years at $110 MM than 5 years at $125 MM for example
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one glimmer of hope for Springer...

Correa finished with just a .709 OPS.

teams don't give mega-extensions to players in the low 700's.

the Astros may not do anything with Correa in the offseason...and that would help out George
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So the stros get the twins. I havent watched them at all. What's the scouting report? They still a high slugging, high K team? How's their pitching?
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I'm going to do a deep dive on them and share with y'all.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

So the stros get the twins. I havent watched them at all. What's the scouting report? They still a high slugging, high K team? How's their pitching?


Maeda has had a great season.



Decent season for Jose Berrios



Michael Pineda has been pretty good as well.

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That the same Maeda who was a reliever for the dodgers?
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W said:

one glimmer of hope for Springer...

Correa finished with just a .709 OPS.

teams don't give mega-extensions to players in the low 700's.

the Astros may not do anything with Correa in the offseason...and that would help out George


I would not expect Correa to entertain an extension. He wants to hit the open market.

He really faltered down the stretch. Over the last 17 games he got a .357 OPS!
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

That the same Maeda who was a reliever for the dodgers?
Yes.
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Well I got my wish. I didn't want the As to start. Baseball obliged.
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Twins team OPS rank just ahead of the Astros at .743.
They are 3rd in the AL in HRs at 91.
7th in AL in most strikeouts (Astros had the least strikeouts in the AL again )

For pitching the Twins are 4th in the AL in team ERA at 3.58
They were 17 out of 27 in save opportunities.
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When do we find out the start time?
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Tomorrow
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My guess on the order of the games Tuesday:

Early afternoon game (12pm or 1pm CST)
Blue Jays vs Rays

Mid afternoon game (2 or 3 pm CST)
Astros vs Twins

Early evening game (6pm CST)
Yankees vs Indians

Late evening game (9pm CST)
White Sox vs Athletics
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Weather in Minneapolis Tuesday shows a high of 61 at about 4pm. Regardless of the time of the game, majority of it will be played in the upper 50s.
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bearkatag15 said:

My guess on the order of the games Tuesday:

Early afternoon game (12pm or 1pm CST)
Blue Jays vs Rays

Mid afternoon game (2 or 3 pm CST)
Astros vs Twins

Early evening game (6pm CST)
Yankees vs Indians

Late evening game (9pm CST)
White Sox vs Athletics
how about wednesday? 8 playoff games in 1 day will be fun
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Nuke LaLoosh
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We are gonna get hot and win this bltch.
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Nuke LaLoosh said:

We are gonna get hot and win this bltch.


Gotta win 13.
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