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Ag_07 said:

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Tucker looks way more awful than Reddick

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According to who?

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Anyone with 2 eyes watching his ABs

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Ag_07 said:

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Reddick and it shouldn't even be a debate.

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Why is that?

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Gonna need that stellar defense in the outfield. Sheriff Woody doesn't give me that warm fuzzy with his defense just yet

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Just because you don't get warm fuzzies doesn't mean he's a poor defender. TED is just as capable as Reddick out there.

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Maybe he is, but he hasn't had a chance to prove it and I don't want him to have that chance this late in the Series.

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Tucker looks way more awful than Reddick

I can at least give it to you and EE that you're consistent but how anyone can make an augment for Kyle Tucker to start a WS game is beyond me.

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I haven't discussed it much at all since before the postseason. its more about getting one last debate in to stir the pot a little.

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I think Marisnick should be the starter.

He's just as likely to go 1-4 as either Reddick or Tucker based on this postseason. The only negative is that Tucker becomes your pinch-runner in a tight ballgame.

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I like the way you think

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Tucker looks way more awful than Reddick

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what?? hitting? not true at all

Barstool radio (Sirius Chan 85) is going to have flasher girl on at 5:30 ET

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Hinch has a chance to separate himself from many of the one-year wonder managers that won 1 world series.

if the Astros win tomorrow or Wednesday, Hinch will be on par with the likes of Tommy Lasorda, Terry Francona, Cito Gaston, and others

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Hinch is better than Tito, managing circles around Cito and don't get me started on that fat lasagna eating POS.

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I won't necessarily disagree. Cito won in back-to-back seasons 92 & 93 with almost the same teams. That is the easiest way to do it. Whereas the Astros have had a 60-70% turn over of the pitching staff from 17 to 19.

Tito won his titles in 04 & 07 and broke the curse. That is still pretty special.

and Lasorda's titles were in 81 & 88. Looking back at the rosters...fairly remarkable how the 88 Dodgers beat the loaded Mets and A's that year

I was wondering if cole would be interested in a 1or 2 year deal. Still make him the highest paid pitcher in the league "yearly" but just not a long term deal.

Our pitch to cole could be let's try to win another ring or 2 with JV here and then go sign your 8 year mega deal.

I'm aware that's easier said than done and somebody passing up hundreds of millions guaranteed probably isn't happening...and you have to strike while you are at your peek...just wondering if Astros Mgmt plays that angle

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Barstool radio (Sirius Chan 85) is going to have flasher girl on at 5:30 ET

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She was on ESPN 97.5 at 2:15 today - The Usual Suspects hour 2 at the 10 minute mark

http://www.podcastarena.com/the-usual-suspects/

Got an email with a sign up link for "CLEAR ENTRY" tomorrow night. Has anyone used this before? First time I have seen it, and I assume it's tied to buying tickets through the Astros website.

https://www.clearme.com/sports/astros/

You have to go to the Clear station at the designated entrance at Minute Maid park to finish signing up, or go to the one at the airport.

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Got an email with a sign up link for "CLEAR ENTRY" tomorrow night. Has anyone used this before? First time I have seen it, and I assume it's tied to buying tickets through the Astros website.

https://www.clearme.com/sports/astros/

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I use it all the time in airports because work pays for it and I travel so much.

You're going to have to get there extra early to put in biometrics (eyes, fingerprints from right hand) to their system and it's fairly expensive. All it does at airports us get you to the front of your line, so it stacks with pre-check. My guess is it just takes you to the front of metal detector line

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spadilly said:

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Got an email with a sign up link for "CLEAR ENTRY" tomorrow night. Has anyone used this before? First time I have seen it, and I assume it's tied to buying tickets through the Astros website.

https://www.clearme.com/sports/astros/

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I use it all the time in airports because work pays for it and I travel so much.

You're going to have to get there extra early to put in biometrics (eyes, fingerprints from right hand) to their system and it's fairly expensive. All it does at airports us get you to the front of your line, so it stacks with pre-check. My guess is it just takes you to the front of metal detector line

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It's free for sporting events.

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spadilly said:

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Got an email with a sign up link for "CLEAR ENTRY" tomorrow night. Has anyone used this before? First time I have seen it, and I assume it's tied to buying tickets through the Astros website.

https://www.clearme.com/sports/astros/

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I use it all the time in airports because work pays for it and I travel so much.

You're going to have to get there extra early to put in biometrics (eyes, fingerprints from right hand) to their system and it's fairly expensive. All it does at airports us get you to the front of your line, so it stacks with pre-check. My guess is it just takes you to the front of metal detector line

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It's free for sporting events.

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Yes, it's a data play for now for sporting events. That'll change at some point

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Got an email with a sign up link for "CLEAR ENTRY" tomorrow night. Has anyone used this before? First time I have seen it, and I assume it's tied to buying tickets through the Astros website.

https://www.clearme.com/sports/astros/

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I use it all the time in airports because work pays for it and I travel so much.

You're going to have to get there extra early to put in biometrics (eyes, fingerprints from right hand) to their system and it's fairly expensive. All it does at airports us get you to the front of your line, so it stacks with pre-check. My guess is it just takes you to the front of metal detector line

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My company doesn't pay for it...I paid for it for a year and found it useful because it's another filter to get me to the tsa line faster...tsa pre is a no brainer. I'd recommend it to anyone. Problem is, everyone has it and at my airport (LAX) the tsa pre lines are long...clear is merely an up charge to get past all the people stuck in the ever lengthening tsa pre lines

My travel requirements have lightened up, so I didn't re up on the clear subscription

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I was wondering if cole would be interested in a 1or 2 year deal. Still make him the highest paid pitcher in the league "yearly" but just not a long term deal.

Our pitch to cole could be let's try to win another ring or 2 with JV here and then go sign your 8 year mega deal.

I'm aware that's easier said than done and somebody passing up hundreds of millions guaranteed probably isn't happening...and you have to strike while you are at your peek...just wondering if Astros Mgmt plays that angle

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That's a hard sell and a pretty easy offer to refuse. You can only spend so much money per year realistically so why not take the larger amount overall even if its stretched longer?

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pirates/2019/10/15/How-Astros-analytics-transformed-ex-Pirate-Gerrit-Cole/stories/201910150105

Pittsburgh article on Cole from mid-October. Pretty much glowing.

Here's the schadenfreude from another Pittsburgh paper I went looking for.

https://triblive.com/sports/tim-benz-gut-reactions-to-following-gerrit-cole-as-opposed-to-marc-andre-fleury/

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Some are watching Cole and bemoaning the results. Mainly because he has been fantastic, and the return Pirates general manager Neal Huntington got in the Houston trade has been marginal. Joe Musgrove, Michael Feliz, Jason Martin and Colin Moran have been average at best.

Others are watching with a kind of macabre, self-loathing sense of humor. Almost a "if you can't laugh you are going to cry" effect.

If it is possible to fall into both camps at once, that's where I am.

Rooting for Cole like Fleury, though? No. I'm not there yet.

And I don't see myself getting there. That's not all Cole's fault, mind you.

But it's certainly not mine either.

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Lets win first before we talk about this... going to anger the baseball gods with this kind of talk.

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+11tybillion

Any update on Scherzer's neck today?

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Any update on Scherzer's neck today?

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I posted this earlier today:

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https://thefandc.radio.com/max-scherzer-likely-done-world-series

Looks like Scherzer is done.

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"All I can say is, at least two people I talked to (Sunday) that have talked to him, I don't think there's any chance he pitches in Game 7," Paulsen told The Sports Junkies.

"One of the people said basically, 'There's no way, it's absolutely not happening,'" Paulsen said Monday on The Fan. "The other one was like, 'Well, let's just see what happens with the cortisone shots and all that.' But I mean their expectation as of when he told them he couldn't go basically was, 'We'll see you in spring training,' at that moment."

Of course, there is still the slim possibility Scherzer is able to pitch in Game 7 if the Nationals get there. Nobody in the right mind would doubt Scherzer's toughness, especially after a 10-strikeout performance in June against the Philadelphia Phillies just one day after breaking his nose and sporting a large black eye.

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I don't think you get refunded the fees. Just the price of the ticket itself.

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I don't have any experience with getting a refund from the Astros but this doesn't sound right. In my experience with the Rockets you got back every penny paid for a game that didn't take place.

Lets hope the Stros just made an error and aren't planning on keeping people's fees.

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Just so anger isn't directed to the wrong place, MLB handles the ticketing system not the Astros.

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8. What are the convenience and handling charges?

Tickets sold on the club sites are subject to a per-ticket convenience charge and a non-refundable per-order charge.

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Looks like that even applies to non-played playoff games.


EDIT: Just chatted online with an Astros ticket rep, she claims it was an error in the system and the convenience charges should be refunded by next week.

I read somewhere that cortisone shots can take 48hrs to kick in. Wonder if he'll start feeling pretty good tomorrow? Admittedly though, I think there's no way an athlete can go from "can't pick up my arm" to dealing against professional hitters in 3 days. Really feel bad for the guy.

Ive only had one in my elbow, they work pretty good but if there is an underlying problem which is likely causing the inflammation then it isn't going to be - I can't move my arm or neck to throwing 97 mile an hour heaters. It will likely be I can sleep without pain until this dies down in a week

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It's not a discussion and the answer is no. There's already too many up there.

Being in the rafters should mean you were an all-time great and spent like 85% of that career (and most of those accomplishments) in Houston.

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so no Ryan for Verlander for you?

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Ryan was a mercenary and played for a long time for 4 teams. He isn't iconic for us, hell he's in the actual HOF as a Ranger.

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One of the most ignorant takes I have read in a long time. Nolan Ryan is not iconic for the Astros?!?!

Even if you weren't around in the 80s when Nolan WAS the Houston Astros, the amount of #34 jerseys you still see at every game should tell you otherwise.

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Yes. Calling him a mercenary is ridiculous. The only reason he left Houston is because McMullen wouldn't resign him at a reasonable price because of his age. He didn't have much choice but to leave Houston.

I lived in Germany when Nolan went to the Rangers, still don't understand any of that.

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It's not a discussion and the answer is no. There's already too many up there.

Being in the rafters should mean you were an all-time great and spent like 85% of that career (and most of those accomplishments) in Houston.

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so no Ryan for Verlander for you?

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Ryan was a mercenary and played for a long time for 4 teams. He isn't iconic for us, hell he's in the actual HOF as a Ranger.

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One of the most ignorant takes I have read in a long time. Nolan Ryan is not iconic for the Astros?!?!

Even if you weren't around in the 80s when Nolan WAS the Houston Astros, the amount of #34 jerseys you still see at every game should tell you otherwise.

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Yes. Calling him a mercenary is ridiculous. The only reason he left Houston is because McMullen wouldn't resign him at a reasonable price because of his age. He didn't have much choice but to leave Houston.

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Yeah, but the Astros signed Jim Clancy in his place for a little less money, so it all worked out well for them...

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It's not a discussion and the answer is no. There's already too many up there.

Being in the rafters should mean you were an all-time great and spent like 85% of that career (and most of those accomplishments) in Houston.

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so no Ryan for Verlander for you?

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Ryan was a mercenary and played for a long time for 4 teams. He isn't iconic for us, hell he's in the actual HOF as a Ranger.

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One of the most ignorant takes I have read in a long time. Nolan Ryan is not iconic for the Astros?!?!

Even if you weren't around in the 80s when Nolan WAS the Houston Astros, the amount of #34 jerseys you still see at every game should tell you otherwise.

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He may be iconic to us, but not everyone views him like that. My use of the term mercenary was because he spent significant time with 4 teams (4 NYM, 8 Angels, 9 Houston, 5 Rangers). Not as a slight on him as a person, but because that's how his career reads when you make a decision to retire a number. You could actually argue that his best numbers were with the Angels.

I also think it's stupid he has a freaking Ranger hat on his head in Cooperstown but it is what it is.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be retired here because he's an all-time great and I get your POV, but A LOT of his production was outside of a Astros uniform.