W said:
the Astros aren't going to advance if Springer doesn't start hitting.
he's been terrible thru the first 6 games of the postseason
Nighty night princess, we all know your baseball IQAggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:
Who cares if he's the strike out leader when your job is to not get runs across the plate.
Not impressed with Cole this year, been much more impressed with Wade Miley despite the much lower K rate
Cole has pretty much the same xwoba as JV and is sporting a ridiculous xfip of 2.36. Buy stock in Cole's 2nd half.
Also LOLOLOLOLOL @ AggieEE
To be fair, back when he was sporting a 4 something ERA he wasn't very impressive. His fastball location wasn't very good leading to tons of HRs
Obviously I'm thrilled he's turned it around.
Eso si, Que es said:Nighty night princess, we all know your baseball IQAggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:
Who cares if he's the strike out leader when your job is to not get runs across the plate.
Not impressed with Cole this year, been much more impressed with Wade Miley despite the much lower K rate
Cole has pretty much the same xwoba as JV and is sporting a ridiculous xfip of 2.36. Buy stock in Cole's 2nd half.
Also LOLOLOLOLOL @ AggieEE
To be fair, back when he was sporting a 4 something ERA he wasn't very impressive. His fastball location wasn't very good leading to tons of HRs
Obviously I'm thrilled he's turned it around.
ETA: please make sure you get the message to Hinch about dropping Springer to the 7 hole, he is surely awaiting your call
Yes, you have achieved Mensa level baseball IQ. Springer slumped through 2017 playoffs and many people begged for his drop in the order, only to watch him win WS MVP. Has Springer (since being established) ever moved out of lead off position under AJ Hinch (barring a very short experiment)? You're the genius, you tell us?AggiEE said:Eso si, Que es said:Nighty night princess, we all know your baseball IQAggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:
Who cares if he's the strike out leader when your job is to not get runs across the plate.
Not impressed with Cole this year, been much more impressed with Wade Miley despite the much lower K rate
Cole has pretty much the same xwoba as JV and is sporting a ridiculous xfip of 2.36. Buy stock in Cole's 2nd half.
Also LOLOLOLOLOL @ AggieEE
To be fair, back when he was sporting a 4 something ERA he wasn't very impressive. His fastball location wasn't very good leading to tons of HRs
Obviously I'm thrilled he's turned it around.
ETA: please make sure you get the message to Hinch about dropping Springer to the 7 hole, he is surely awaiting your call
it's much higher than yours apparently since I only asked the question as to whether the lineup would change as a result of Springer's slump, I never flat out said it should occur. This was in response to someone saying that Springer has to hit in order for us to be effective.
Sometimes moving a guy around takes the nerve off and allows them to settle down, I don't think we live or die by him being fixed to the 1 hole
Eso si, Que es said:Yes, you have achieved Mensa level baseball IQ. Springer slumped through 2017 playoffs and many people begged for his drop in the order, only to watch him win WS MVP. Has Springer (since being established) ever moved out of lead off position under AJ Hinch (barring a very short experiment)? You're the genius, you tell us?AggiEE said:Eso si, Que es said:Nighty night princess, we all know your baseball IQAggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:
Who cares if he's the strike out leader when your job is to not get runs across the plate.
Not impressed with Cole this year, been much more impressed with Wade Miley despite the much lower K rate
Cole has pretty much the same xwoba as JV and is sporting a ridiculous xfip of 2.36. Buy stock in Cole's 2nd half.
Also LOLOLOLOLOL @ AggieEE
To be fair, back when he was sporting a 4 something ERA he wasn't very impressive. His fastball location wasn't very good leading to tons of HRs
Obviously I'm thrilled he's turned it around.
ETA: please make sure you get the message to Hinch about dropping Springer to the 7 hole, he is surely awaiting your call
it's much higher than yours apparently since I only asked the question as to whether the lineup would change as a result of Springer's slump, I never flat out said it should occur. This was in response to someone saying that Springer has to hit in order for us to be effective.
Sometimes moving a guy around takes the nerve off and allows them to settle down, I don't think we live or die by him being fixed to the 1 hole
Make sure when you ask Hinch this, you recommend Miley start game 3 and 7 for us based on your previously quoted post.
FYI:
https://www.mlb.com/cut4/george-springer-is-the-best-homer-hitting-leadoff-hitter/c-274349016
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/astros/article/George-Springer-gives-Astros-a-leadoff-man-with-11067046.php
As much as you post here, I am sure you are a true Astros fan; I am just saying that this is MLB, success is not measured over days or weeks, it is measured over seasons and careers. Your posts have been very fickle and short sighted. Our boys may not be victorious this week or this playoff season, but it is just like when we complain about saying certain things during certain games, it is not just superstition, there is data and history to some of these things. Don't poke the baseball gods, they are fickle and get pissed very easily. That is because routine is extremely important in the baseball world, consistency, consistency, consistency!
I hope we are both happy in 8 days, nay 17 days. Just realize the season is 162 games for a reason, and post season is not NFL playoffs for a reason...any given night, 27 outs, no clock.
Awesome points, can I recap?AggiEE said:Eso si, Que es said:Yes, you have achieved Mensa level baseball IQ. Springer slumped through 2017 playoffs and many people begged for his drop in the order, only to watch him win WS MVP. Has Springer (since being established) ever moved out of lead off position under AJ Hinch (barring a very short experiment)? You're the genius, you tell us?AggiEE said:Eso si, Que es said:Nighty night princess, we all know your baseball IQAggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:
Who cares if he's the strike out leader when your job is to not get runs across the plate.
Not impressed with Cole this year, been much more impressed with Wade Miley despite the much lower K rate
Cole has pretty much the same xwoba as JV and is sporting a ridiculous xfip of 2.36. Buy stock in Cole's 2nd half.
Also LOLOLOLOLOL @ AggieEE
To be fair, back when he was sporting a 4 something ERA he wasn't very impressive. His fastball location wasn't very good leading to tons of HRs
Obviously I'm thrilled he's turned it around.
ETA: please make sure you get the message to Hinch about dropping Springer to the 7 hole, he is surely awaiting your call
it's much higher than yours apparently since I only asked the question as to whether the lineup would change as a result of Springer's slump, I never flat out said it should occur. This was in response to someone saying that Springer has to hit in order for us to be effective.
Sometimes moving a guy around takes the nerve off and allows them to settle down, I don't think we live or die by him being fixed to the 1 hole
Make sure when you ask Hinch this, you recommend Miley start game 3 and 7 for us based on your previously quoted post.
FYI:
https://www.mlb.com/cut4/george-springer-is-the-best-homer-hitting-leadoff-hitter/c-274349016
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/astros/article/George-Springer-gives-Astros-a-leadoff-man-with-11067046.php
As much as you post here, I am sure you are a true Astros fan; I am just saying that this is MLB, success is not measured over days or weeks, it is measured over seasons and careers. Your posts have been very fickle and short sighted. Our boys may not be victorious this week or this playoff season, but it is just like when we complain about saying certain things during certain games, it is not just superstition, there is data and history to some of these things. Don't poke the baseball gods, they are fickle and get pissed very easily. That is because routine is extremely important in the baseball world, consistency, consistency, consistency!
I hope we are both happy in 8 days, nay 17 days. Just realize the season is 162 games for a reason, and post season is not NFL playoffs for a reason...any given night, 27 outs, no clock.
You don't need to give me a history lesson. Thankfully he got out of his slump in 2017. That's no guarantee in 2019.
I don't really care if Springer hasn't had his order adjusted previously, nor do I just fully support every single decision Hinch makes. But Hinch has already made top of the order lineup adjustments in the playoffs so far this year. He regularly makes changes to how he sees players are currently playing and his gut feel at times.
Routine while in a rhythm is obviously important, it's just as important to know when to make adjustments. Otherwise, you keep playing a Miley or Reddick expecting different results...even if it is somewhat short term (like the Miley implosion has been, he's been fantastic for the vast majority of the season, which is funny how quick you are to throw him under the bus yet call me out for short term thinking...). Sometimes you need to have a feel for momentum, and if a player is off, maybe changing things periodically can break somebody out of a funk and gain their confidence back. I think Springer is a tad more prone to this sort of thing than some of our other players.
I never said that moving Springer was the correct move either (in fact, I lean towards just keeping him at the top), but I also would not fault Hinch for doing it.
Well said.Frok said:agdaddy04 said:Gigemags382 said:
This team is the epitome of anti-clutch. Good grief what a disaster.
Just came across this one, but how the **** do you say a team that won 107, made it to the ALCS, is anti-clutch
You watch tonight's game
mathguy86 said:
Spent most of the last 5 innings in Internet purgatory. Texags wouldn't load worth a crap. Now it's decided to be snappy again.
Astros game sucked.Cromagnum said:
October 12th was a ****ty sports day.
This is not even debatable. You have a team full of guys have already proven they are clutch.Nuke LaLoosh said:
THREE hits. How many games this season have we had three hits.
On one hand we have a team full of fkn choke artists.
On the other hand, fluke.
Which one, TBD.
But fk man tonight was dirty.
third coast.. said:
I'm pretty sure half this thread is in the same section tonight. Wife and I will be in the juicebox up in stratosection 407
Wearing a Mahomes jersey the day before the big game...sounds like dude was looking for a fight.BCSGrubber said:
Snagged some ticket close to home plate an hour before the game when prices dropped. There were a lot of interesting people sitting our section last night. Yankee fans around us were actually pretty cool and not over the top annoying or rude.
Guy wearing Pat Mahomes jersey was acting ridiculous and we thought got kicked out but then was let back in. So many people missed significant parts of the game getting beer. Don't understand why you pay that much money to not watch the game.
Big Al 1992 said:third coast.. said:
I'm pretty sure half this thread is in the same section tonight. Wife and I will be in the juicebox up in stratosection 407
407 here. Row 6. Let's go!!!!!
407 row 11Big Al 1992 said:third coast.. said:
I'm pretty sure half this thread is in the same section tonight. Wife and I will be in the juicebox up in stratosection 407
407 here. Row 6. Let's go!!!!!
Big Al 1992 said:
Lots of parallels between this series and WS 2017.
Down 0-1, Springer cold, everyone wanting him to move down in the order. Other bats cold. Verlander pitching game 2.
We've been here before.
Astros will be up 2 games to 1 heading in to game 4. Then it's anyone's ball game.
