***** Official Houston Astros 2019 Season Thread *****

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Kemp likely gets a reprieve until July 31st --- then he's traded or DFA'd
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W said:

Kemp likely gets a reprieve until July 31st --- then he's traded or DFA'd

Question...If he gets DFAd On July 30 do we still get 7 days to trade him or just the 1 since the trade deadline is the 31st?
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bearkatag15 said:

Tyler White was the 40th spot. Him being DFA'd not only made room on the 25 man roster for Ur Keeding but also created a spot on the 40 man roster for Correa

Makes sense, thanks.

I could see Straw going down for Diaz, then several of the pitchers juggling back and forth once Correa returns, given the schedule. That's just the situation and not a reflection of Straw. Don't know how it would change, though, if James is hurt.

The one thing apparent is that Luhnow needs to package a couple of active players in any trade this month. Kemp, Rondon, Armenteros, whoever has value and is deemed expendable. Gotta make room somehow.
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I've wondered about that too.

could the Astros keep him under control until August 6th or 7th
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The way I understand it is there are no trades of any kind after July 31.
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Ag_07 said:

Gonna be sick

Springer - RF
Altuve- 2B
Bregman - 3B
Brantley - LF
Alvarez - DH
Correa - SS
Yuli - 1B
Reddick - RF
Chrinios - C
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Ag_07 said:

The way I understand it is there are no trades of any kind after July 31.
Teams can still trade for players that were put on & cleared waivers after July 31st (ie. Verlander). Waiver deadline is August 31st.
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Thanks for the help Armenteros.
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Not anymore. Now there's only 1 deadline

Per MLB rules
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As of 2019, the July 31 Trade Deadline is the only trade deadline. Players may still be placed and claimed on outright waivers after July 31, but trades will no longer be permitted after that date. With regards to newly acquired players, the Aug. 31 postseason roster deadline remains in effect.
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bearkatag15 said:



Thanks for the help Armenteros.
He'll be back in September.
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Interesting! Hadn't heard of that change. Glad we got JV when we did lol
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There's something about you can still trade for someone in the minors or not a 40 man roster or something.

Basically if we had a regular or back up get hurt and nothing MLB ready in the farm, we could trade for another prospect.

I forget the exact rules but remember them discussing it one game when they were breaking down the new system
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Armenteros was slated to start Saturday in STL. Who goes that night now?
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tjholley16 said:

Armenteros was slated to start Saturday in STL. Who goes that night now?
Cole on regular rest.
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AgDoc03 said:

There's something about you can still trade for someone in the minors or not a 40 man roster or something.

Basically if we had a regular or back up get hurt and nothing MLB ready in the farm, we could trade for another prospect.

I forget the exact rules but remember them discussing it one game when they were breaking down the new system


The odds of that happening sound pretty improbable.
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Interesting tidbit on MadBum

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There's also an incentive for him to be traded, as it would make him ineligible to receive a qualifying offer. The Draft-pick compensation tied to those who reject a qualifying offer has seemingly limited the market for some players in recent years, including left-hander Dallas Keuchel this past offseason.

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I don't disagree, they were just discussing the only roster moves possible after July 31st involving another team.
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Teddy Perkins said:

tjholley16 said:

Armenteros was slated to start Saturday in STL. Who goes that night now?
Cole on regular rest.


Oh okay. He was slated for the Sunday finale so I guess moving him up is pretty easy
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I think Straw goes to AAA when Correa is activated and Kemp remains in the utility man spot he is in now while Straw plays everyday in AAA. Then we see Straw again with September 1 call ups unless he is needed before then because of injury.
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Gap said:

I think Straw goes to AAA when Correa is activated and Kemp remains in the utility man spot he is in now while Straw plays everyday in AAA. Then we see Straw again with September 1 call ups unless he is needed before then because of injury.


I disagree. What role has Kemp played that Straw hasn't as well? And straw is out performing Kemp in just about every way.
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the A's get the "A" lineup tonight
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I think Kemp is out of options so you would risk letting him go without getting anything in return.
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4-0 with a 1.46 ERA in eight career starts against Houston.
Last time Bailey faced Houston was 2012. I imagine the ERA goes up significantly after tonight.
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Joshua Rojas - RR Express

What's the story on this guy? Looking at his stats he has an OPS over 1000 right now. Is he just blocked with all the infielders we have?
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Gap said:

I think Straw goes to AAA when Correa is activated and Kemp remains in the utility man spot he is in now while Straw plays everyday in AAA. Then we see Straw again with September 1 call ups unless he is needed before then because of injury.

Straw is the better player right now and much better suited for a playoff roster spot. However I agree with you and think moving straw down right now is the correct call.

I know I sound like a broken record but I really do feel that if kemp got consistent playing time everyday and was given 450+ ABs in a season the guy would hit in the 260-275 range and have good OBP numbers. His problem this year is he just isn't drawing the amount of walks he should and that's vital to his production especially hitting 9 in our lineup.

Unlike white I very rarely see a Kemp AB and think this guy doesn't belong or MLB pitching is just blowing him away. He usually puts together good ABs and puts the ball in play but his numbers just haven't reflected that this year.

If we release him somebody is going to pick him up immediately imo (somebody like Oakland)

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rosco511 said:

I think Kemp is out of options so you would risk letting him go without getting anything in return.


We'll have 7 days to trade him when we're gonna be making a trade anyways.

Besides who cares. He's dead weight and Straw is a better player.
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Phrasing said:

Joshua Rojas - RR Express

What's the story on this guy? Looking at his stats he has an OPS over 1000 right now. Is he just blocked with all the infielders we have?
Kid out of Hawaii we drafted very late. Super utility type if I remember correctly.
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Phrasing said:

Joshua Rojas - RR Express

What's the story on this guy? Looking at his stats he has an OPS over 1000 right now. Is he just blocked with all the infielders we have?
I think he is a prime candidate to be included in a deal this deadline.
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I know it's going to happen, but I hate to see Kemp go. Who will take over the job of lifting George after a Springer Dinger?
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Kemp not going anywhere.
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Some folks will be going somewhere. Kemp one of the more likely that are on the current roster
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ontheedge said:

Kemp ain't going anywhere.

You've been hanging on to this sentiment for awhile. Kudos.
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Nobody said Kempin' was easy....