Guitarsoup said:
AggieEP said:
Earth Rider said:
I wish the Nuggets would go for that, for us to trade Barnes and Keldon for MPJ. To me MPJ is a higher level player than Barnes and Keldon.
Looking back on it, really glad the Rockets took Shepard and not Castle. I can understand Sarr and Risacher, they both can be good players. And even Shepard may be ok once he plays more, but we have so much more in Castle.
I guess in a redraft Castle would go 1, Sarr maybe 2 he still has a high ceiling. Matas could go 3 in a redraft, and he might end up being the best player in the 24 class. Rissacher may go 4. McCain had a good season pre injury, but i don't believe in him yet. To me he kind of had a jeremy Lin type season. But dang, its crazy how little talent is coming out of last years class, which I know was a weak draft class. Just really glad we got Castle out of that class.
How Matas developed last year is why I am still kind of pissed we traded 8 last year for the Wolves swap. For the stage we're still at in the rebuild, you can't turn down lottery tickets like that when you have a chance to grab and develop a kid.
We're in here talking circles around how to get a 6'10" shooter on the team and Matas is that guy, we decided not to draft him though.
Nah, trading 8 was the right pick.
* 2030 Wolves unprotected Swap
* 2031 Wolves unprotected pick - traded for DeAaron Fox
* opened up the cap space to accept Harrison Barnes for free
* 2031 Kings swap for taking Barnes' salary
That's pretty insane value for the 8th pick.
And I think the unprotected swaps from two ****ty franchises when Wemby, Harper, and Castle are on extensions are going to be insanely valuable.
I can't fault the Spurs for getting Fox, an all star and a third team All NBA point guard.
We also lost this year's Chicago's 12 pick in the trade, but without Matas its likely Chicago pick would have been in the top 10 and then not transferred.
Matas is so freaking athletic, and he has a really good handle for a 6'10. he'd much rather drive than shoot from the arc. How he beats the one-on-one to get to the basket for somebody his size is really impressive. He reminds me of Ginobli in that way. He's already a great defender. His shooting is his weakness but not that bad for a rookie as he shot 36% from the 3. And he is a solid rim protector already.
I know this sounds like irritating told you so 20/20 hindsight, but I really liked Matas in the 24 draft. Not enough to draft him over Castle, I thought there was a clear top 4 last year. But Buzelis will only get better each year, and I think he surpassed everybody's expectations as a rookie. You watch his highlights as a rookie, and its surprising how good he is.
I think Buzelis has the highest ceiling in the 24 class, but between him and Sarr and Castle I know is debatable. We know what Castle is, and if he develops a shot then he is an All NBA player. Sarr is so fast for a big guy and athletic and a strong rim protector. I don't think he has near the handle or versatility of Buzelis or just overall BBIQ that Matas has. I think it will end up as Castle or Matas as the top player from the 24 class.
But Fox is a really good player, and he wanted to be a Spur. Again, I can't fault the Spurs for getting Fox. Plus the Wolves 2030 pick swap and the 2031 Kings swap. I think Kings will start to tank around 27 or 28, its hard to say how good they will be by 2031. But I don't value future picks that far out as much as some, too much hope and glass half full IMO.