True Anomaly said:

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I've come around on Doncic. If he actually does slide as some mocks have him doing so, I'm good with Dallas taking him. He'd fit in well as a true 2/3 on this team, ready to show Wes Matthews the door. We haven't had a decent wing since Parsons, and people forget that when healthy, Parsons was pretty great as a 3

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Right Before we made the ill fated Rondo trade, he was dominant as a point forward , we were playing really well I thought

Picking 4th and 5th could be amazing..or even thinking those into higher picks somehow

PatAg said:

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True Anomaly said:

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I've come around on Doncic. If he actually does slide as some mocks have him doing so, I'm good with Dallas taking him. He'd fit in well as a true 2/3 on this team, ready to show Wes Matthews the door. We haven't had a decent wing since Parsons, and people forget that when healthy, Parsons was pretty great as a 3

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Right Before we made the ill fated Rondo trade, he was dominant as a point forward , we were playing really well I thought

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That team could score with ease, but for some reason Cuban and deadweight Donnie blew it up.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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PatAg said:

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True Anomaly said:

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I've come around on Doncic. If he actually does slide as some mocks have him doing so, I'm good with Dallas taking him. He'd fit in well as a true 2/3 on this team, ready to show Wes Matthews the door. We haven't had a decent wing since Parsons, and people forget that when healthy, Parsons was pretty great as a 3

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Right Before we made the ill fated Rondo trade, he was dominant as a point forward , we were playing really well I thought

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That team could score with ease, but for some reason Cuban and deadweight Donnie blew it up.

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I was on board with the trade at the time- they were going for it because on paper, Rondo was a better point guard than Jameer Nelson

M.C. Swag said:

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Y'all see the buzz around the Memphis trade deal?

Apparently they desperately want to unload Chandler Parsons 2yr - $50m deal and would be willing to package the 4th overall pick to do it.

Mavs have a serious opportunity here. This is the type of deal that can spark a dynasty and it would cost Dallas practically nothing.

Option 1) Offer to take Parsons+4th Pick in exchange for a second rounder this year and protected top 8 first next.

Option 2) Same as Option 1 but throw in Grizz choice of Wes Matthews+Powell or Barnes.

This team is at least 2-3 years away from contending (and thats assuming they nail the draft picks...it could be 4-5). At that point, Barnes will be 30 and a FA. Meanwhile the Mavs will be stockpiling young talent with over $70m+ in available cap space and room to sign 2 max players. I don't see Barnes being a part of that equation anyways, so as much as i love him, I'd pull the trigger on this trade for either option 1 or 2.

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Hard to believe that it is actually a real trade. Barnes is certainly better, younger, healthier than Parsons in a basketball sense. However when tying in contracts, Barnes isn't a great "asset". Neutral at best. So swapping a bad asset for a neutral one shouldn't be worth the #4 pick by itself. If I were Memphis I wouldn't do that even with the Mavs unprotected 1st next year included. Unfortunately the Mavs just don't have very many good assets for this trade.

jeffdjohnson said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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Y'all see the buzz around the Memphis trade deal?

Apparently they desperately want to unload Chandler Parsons 2yr - $50m deal and would be willing to package the 4th overall pick to do it.

Mavs have a serious opportunity here. This is the type of deal that can spark a dynasty and it would cost Dallas practically nothing.

Option 1) Offer to take Parsons+4th Pick in exchange for a second rounder this year and protected top 8 first next.

Option 2) Same as Option 1 but throw in Grizz choice of Wes Matthews+Powell or Barnes.

This team is at least 2-3 years away from contending (and thats assuming they nail the draft picks...it could be 4-5). At that point, Barnes will be 30 and a FA. Meanwhile the Mavs will be stockpiling young talent with over $70m+ in available cap space and room to sign 2 max players. I don't see Barnes being a part of that equation anyways, so as much as i love him, I'd pull the trigger on this trade for either option 1 or 2.

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Hard to believe that it is actually a real trade. Barnes is certainly better, younger, healthier than Parsons in a basketball sense. However when tying in contracts, Barnes isn't a great "asset". Neutral at best. So swapping a bad asset for a neutral one shouldn't be worth the #4 pick by itself. If I were Memphis I wouldn't do that even with the Mavs unprotected 1st next year included. Unfortunately the Mavs just don't have very many good assets for this trade.

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It is hard to belive and I highly doubt its even a remote possibility, but who knows....if memphis is desperate to win now, it kinda makes sense. If they simply remove Parsons from the books, that alone gives them $30m in cap room. That's a max offer (or close enough to it). I guess it ultimately hinges on whether Memphis is confident they can attract a FA. From that perspective, signing a certain NBA All-Star (say, idk who) vs drafting an unknown rookie may be the better move for that roster.

Also, I could see them liking Barnes+Powell. Both are better than Parsons and would provide immediate depth and scoring to a team that needs both.

If Luka falls to #4....I'd offer the Grizz whatever they want short of DSJ. The opportunity to draft Doncic AND a big man (Bamba, JJJ, or MPJ) is too good to pass up.

My outside sense on the Grizzlies is that if the Kings or Hawks take JJJ or someone other than Bagley or Doncic, they may deal the pick, but if either Doncic or Bagley are there at 4, that is their pick.

From my understanding, Parsons is definitely on the trade block, but the feeling is the Grizzlies didn't spend most of last season "developing young talent" to draft too far down the first round, especially since the way the salary cap works, dealing Parsons doesn't open up that much to spend.


I have heard the rumor of Grizzlies #4 & Parsons for Bulls #7 & #22 (and whatever parts are needed to make the trade work, like Portis), but that was an online source, and Pippen Ain't Easy. The matching of salaries makes this difficult.

The player that matches salaries with Parsons best is obviously Harrison Barnes (but Matthews works). I can't imagine why Dallas would trade Barnes & #5 for Parsons & #4.
I don't count out #4 + Parsons, for Harrison Barnes.

Under no circumstances would I want the Mavs to trade their 5th pick as part of the Parsons deal.

Iowaggie said:

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My outside sense on the Grizzlies is that if the Kings or Hawks take JJJ or someone other than Bagley or Doncic, they may deal the pick, but if either Doncic or Bagley are there at 4, that is their pick.

From my understanding, Parsons is definitely on the trade block, but the feeling is the Grizzlies didn't spend most of last season "developing young talent" to draft too far down the first round, especially since the way the salary cap works, dealing Parsons doesn't open up that much to spend.


I have heard the rumor of Grizzlies #4 & Parsons for Bulls #7 & #22 (and whatever parts are needed to make the trade work, like Portis), but that was an online source, and Pippen Ain't Easy. The matching of salaries makes this difficult.

The player that matches salaries with Parsons best is obviously Harrison Barnes (but Matthews works). I can't imagine why Dallas would trade Barnes & #5 for Parsons & #4.
I don't count out #4 + Parsons, for Harrison Barnes.

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There has been no talk of the mavs sending their 1st round pick this year.

M.C. Swag said:

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Y'all see the buzz around the Memphis trade deal?

Apparently they desperately want to unload Chandler Parsons 2yr - $50m deal and would be willing to package the 4th overall pick to do it.

Mavs have a serious opportunity here. This is the type of deal that can spark a dynasty and it would cost Dallas practically nothing.

Option 1) Offer to take Parsons+4th Pick in exchange for a second rounder this year and protected top 8 first next.

Option 2) Same as Option 1 but throw in Grizz choice of Wes Matthews+Powell or Barnes.

This team is at least 2-3 years away from contending (and thats assuming they nail the draft picks...it could be 4-5). At that point, Barnes will be 30 and a FA. Meanwhile the Mavs will be stockpiling young talent with over $70m+ in available cap space and room to sign 2 max players. I don't see Barnes being a part of that equation anyways, so as much as i love him, I'd pull the trigger on this trade for either option 1 or 2.

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I'd snap call either of those options. That would be unbelievable.

M.C. Swag said:

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jeffdjohnson said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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Y'all see the buzz around the Memphis trade deal?

Apparently they desperately want to unload Chandler Parsons 2yr - $50m deal and would be willing to package the 4th overall pick to do it.

Mavs have a serious opportunity here. This is the type of deal that can spark a dynasty and it would cost Dallas practically nothing.

Option 1) Offer to take Parsons+4th Pick in exchange for a second rounder this year and protected top 8 first next.

Option 2) Same as Option 1 but throw in Grizz choice of Wes Matthews+Powell or Barnes.

This team is at least 2-3 years away from contending (and thats assuming they nail the draft picks...it could be 4-5). At that point, Barnes will be 30 and a FA. Meanwhile the Mavs will be stockpiling young talent with over $70m+ in available cap space and room to sign 2 max players. I don't see Barnes being a part of that equation anyways, so as much as i love him, I'd pull the trigger on this trade for either option 1 or 2.

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Hard to believe that it is actually a real trade. Barnes is certainly better, younger, healthier than Parsons in a basketball sense. However when tying in contracts, Barnes isn't a great "asset". Neutral at best. So swapping a bad asset for a neutral one shouldn't be worth the #4 pick by itself. If I were Memphis I wouldn't do that even with the Mavs unprotected 1st next year included. Unfortunately the Mavs just don't have very many good assets for this trade.

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It is hard to belive and I highly doubt its even a remote possibility, but who knows....if memphis is desperate to win now, it kinda makes sense. If they simply remove Parsons from the books, that alone gives them $30m in cap room. That's a max offer (or close enough to it). I guess it ultimately hinges on whether Memphis is confident they can attract a FA. From that perspective, signing a certain NBA All-Star (say, idk who) vs drafting an unknown rookie may be the better move for that roster.

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Yea the rumor is that Memphis wants to win now. Which is really dumb for them, but if they are dumb I'd love to take advantage.

M.C. Swag said:

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Under no circumstances would I want the Mavs to trade their 5th pick as part of the Parsons deal.

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Agreed. No way this happens.

Iowaggie said:

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My outside sense on the Grizzlies is that if the Kings or Hawks take JJJ or someone other than Bagley or Doncic, they may deal the pick, but if either Doncic or Bagley are there at 4, that is their pick.

From my understanding, Parsons is definitely on the trade block, but the feeling is the Grizzlies didn't spend most of last season "developing young talent" to draft too far down the first round, especially since the way the salary cap works, dealing Parsons doesn't open up that much to spend.


I have heard the rumor of Grizzlies #4 & Parsons for Bulls #7 & #22 (and whatever parts are needed to make the trade work, like Portis), but that was an online source, and Pippen Ain't Easy. The matching of salaries makes this difficult.

The player that matches salaries with Parsons best is obviously Harrison Barnes (but Matthews works). I can't imagine why Dallas would trade Barnes & #5 for Parsons & #4.
I don't count out #4 + Parsons, for Harrison Barnes.

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Plz take bagley.

Mike Marshall, formerly of The Ticket, published this yesterday. Really interesting draft breakdown, with some intriguing facts thrown in- like, apparently, the teams picking 2nd-4th in the draft didn't send anyone to watch Doncic in the Eurobasket finals just a couple weeks ago???

https://www.canva.com/design/DACzC8ZCooo/XufYieQboyFr2PWKgh_7vQ/view?utm_content=DACzC8ZCooo&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=sharebutton

With all the rumors that the Kings are strongly considering drafting Bagley at 2, I think there's a 50/50 chance that Doncic slips to 4 (Atlanta doesn't really need a Guard and apparently love JJJ). IF Luka falls to 4....I'm starting to consider the option of swapping our 5th pick+Barnes with Memphis.

It's not my preference, but it's something I'm not sure I could pass up. I just think there's a huge dropoff from Luka to Bamba and I would be willing to part with Barnes mostly because I'm of the belief that the Mavs need to tank again next year. Getting rid of Barnes makes the Mavs a worse team in the short term, but that ultimately serves the long term goal.

Now, my fantasy wet dream is that Luka falls to 4 and the Mavs are able to acquire the 4th and keep their 5th (and then we can draft Doncic+Bamba...or if by some miracle JJJ is also still available, then Doncic+JJJ). But I'm not sure Memphis will even consider that regardless of the package we put together.

I would trade next years 1st round pick to Sacramento + #5 for Doncic. Weak draft next year. Mavs will win 30+ games and finish between 12th-15th anyways. Could be my Doncic colored glasses but I'm a believer. Having DSJ/Doncic on the wings together for the next decade would be a lot of fun.

jeffdjohnson said:

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I would trade next years 1st round pick to Sacramento + #5 for Doncic. Weak draft next year. Mavs will win 30+ games and finish between 12th-15th anyways. Could be my Doncic colored glasses but I'm a believer. Having DSJ/Doncic on the wings together for the next decade would be a lot of fun.

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lol wow that's the kind of fire I like, but i'd rather risk Sacramento making that decision than offering that deal. Kinda like the Boston/Philly trade where Philly gave up assets to get Fultz when Boston (from all reports) were planning on taking Tatum at 1 anways, I'd rather the Mavs not unintentionally shoot themselves in the foot trying to get a player they would otherwise have. If Sacramento is intent on drafting Bagley, I roll the dice on those reports. That's certainly not an indcitment on Doncic's value, which I believe is the highest in the draft.

All of this **** is such a matter of 'chicken' and who will flinch first as it is a chess game. Can't wait for Thursday!

hmm

I don't get the doncic hype.

Ever since we won our last championship, we've struggled with defensive rebounding. We need a solid big.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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I don't get the doncic hype.

Ever since we won our last championship, we've struggled with defensive rebounding. We need a solid big.

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The mavs have many needs. Kinda what makes this draft so damn entertaining.

Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades. I'm all in on Doncic but giving up our first rounder next year scares me bc if we are smart we should tank again. Maybe we could make it top 8 protected or something like that.

mavsfan4ever said:

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Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades.

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Am I the only one hoping we get bamba?

mavsfan4ever said:

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Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades.

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That's the only thing that worries me. IF giving up the 5th & 33rd is all it takes, sign me up. And I could be persuaded to take on a bad contract too. But if a future 1 is anywhere else in that deal....that might be too steep.

M.C. Swag said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades.

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That's the only thing that worries me. IF giving up the 5th & 33rd is all it takes, sign me up. And I could be persuaded to take on a bad contract too. But if a future 1 is anywhere else in that deal....that might be too steep.

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I can't imagine Atlanta not being able to get more than a second round pick to move back. And if they want Trae then it seems like they should be looking to move down further than 5th so that they can get more in return.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades.

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Am I the only one hoping we get bamba?

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I'm going to be disappointed if we don't get doncic. But if he's gone, I guess I'd be fine with bamba or jjj if they are still there. Wouldn't be devastated but definitely wouldn't be too excited.

mavsfan4ever said:

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M.C. Swag said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades.

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That's the only thing that worries me. IF giving up the 5th & 33rd is all it takes, sign me up. And I could be persuaded to take on a bad contract too. But if a future 1 is anywhere else in that deal....that might be too steep.

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I can't imagine Atlanta not being able to get more than a second round pick to move back. And if they want Trae then it seems like they should be looking to move down further than 5th so that they can get more in return.

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Yea...idk would they accept 5 and a 1 next year (top 10 protected)? Ugh, idk. I really really don't want the Mavs to mortgage any future picks to move up 2 spots.

If hawks are wanting to offload Schroeder's contract, then it shouldn't take next years first. Maybe 5 and our second round pick would get it done.

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Wonder what it would take to move up to 3. Woj has doncic going to Kings on the Espn draft special and had mavs taking bamba. Of course they didn't factor in trades.

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Am I the only one hoping we get bamba?

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Bamba's my least favorite of the top pics

I'm fine with Bamba.

But am I the only one who thinks Carter is better than Bagley, especially defensively?

I think Wendell Carter is underrated

And I'm starting to think the Bulls are so in love with Michael Porter that we should take him and pull one of those Tractor Traylor/Dirk trades with them.

Dominic's highlights remind me of Paul Pierce.

txjortsagent said:

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I'm fine with Bamba.

But am I the only one who thinks Carter is better than Bagley, especially defensively?

I think Wendell Carter is underrated

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No... you aren't the only one who has parrotted this hot sports take that every controversial draft talking head has been saying for like a month here.

It's draft day!!!

MAVS TAKE MY ENERGY