*****Official 2014-2015 Dallas Mavericks Thread*****

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Really good article from Zach Lowe:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/rajon-rondo-trade-dallas-mavericks/


COOL LASER FALCON
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What's up with the overrating of Brandan Wright?

You've also got to remember that it's the Mavs. We lived through lots of years of Shawn Bradley, Raef Lafrentz and Erik ****ing Dampier.
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Good Morning Mavs fans. Spurs fan here (obviously). Just wanted to let you know that I spent years disliking Dirk and Cuban only to reverse course. Now, I defend them and freely admit how much I like both of them. I am now adding Carlisle to that group. I never disliked Carlisle, but he was the Mavs coach so I naturally put him the I don't like you category. However, after reading some of his interviews and getting a feel for how he treats players and other coaches, I've decided that when Pop retires, I want him to shaft you guys and come coach Kawhi to a couple championships.

Just thought I would share. Kthxbai

Also, the Rockets still suck.
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Regardless of Zach Lowe's analysis I still think Rondo can be great here. Blind trust in Carlisle and thinking outside the box? Probably.

I just invision multiple ways of using Rondo that people aren't bringing up (such as off-ball movement, posting up guards, and creative PnR opportunities for him on and off ball). I think that just looking at the surface of Rondo and Zach's analysis could make you think that it might be difficult, but I have a feeling the Mavs figure it out.

It may take a couple weeks of adjustment, though.
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what is the mavs game on? can't find it.
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It's on TXA 21 I believe.
PatAg
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Good counter by carlisle to put Rondo at the top of the key to break the zone. Dirk is ice cold tonight missing wide open shots.
PatAg
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2nd half officiating is...mysterious
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I hope Dirk ok'd the trade before it was made. If he didn't I feel sorry for him. This is going to be ugly.
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I went to the game last night, and the biggest problem was simply missing open shots. I think Rondo will fit in well IF Parsons and Ellis can hit wide open jumpers, which they weren't doing last night. Also Rondo just needs time to gel. There was a fast break opportunity last night where Rondo inexplicably passed out to the corner where no one was, while Tyson was there expecting a lob. He'll learn what spots people like to go to.

Another positive, it seems like despite trading away Crowder and BWright, we still have a good, deep bench. Devin, JJ, Jefferson, Villanueva, and Greg Smith all played better than the first unit for most of the night.
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I know its small sample size, but we have looked completely awful the last three games since the trade. Not competitive the last two and barely beat the Spurs D league team the first game.

Teams literally don't have to guard Rondo which will continue to derail our offense. Even worse, it appears he is willing to shoot jumpers now. We went from having the most efficient offense of all time to watching Rondo jack jumpers. WTF? Oh, and we also depleted our bench, which was a major strength of ours. I'm just hoping we hang onto the 8 seed somehow.

I put $200 on the Mavs to win the title when I was in Vegas awhile back. I might as well throw that ticket in the trash.
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You are the worst type of fan.
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Mavs are a first round exit right now. Can't beat the top teams.

Still need to give it time. Parsons doesn't look that good though. Dude is slow.
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You are the worst type of fan. 1



The type that hates it when his favorite team makes an awful trade when they are performing well?
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The short-sighted type that judges a trade after 2 games. The type that thinks because we can score a lot in the regular season, means it will be the same in the playoffs.
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Congrats to Dirk as he moves past Elvin Hayes into 8th place in career scoring.
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Solid win considering Tyson was out! The team looked great tonight! Dirk looked great as well and hopefully he has gotten over his stomach virus that's been bothering him for a couple weeks.
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Nice comeback win for the Mavs tonight vs OKC.
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Very exciting game last night. Looked like it would have been a great game to be at.
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Here's to hoping a couple of big concerns work themselves out as the team gels with Rondo:

1) defense is still a total siv - in fact, point guards have continued to kill them, despite the supposed prowess of Rondo as a perimeter defender. With the athleticism of Rondo, Harris and Ellis, there's no excuse to ole guards into the lane.

2) Rondo is taking a sheet ton of shots. Maybe that's Carlisle encouraging him to push his own scoring opps, but good god is he inefficient.

3) Rondo and Ellis don't appear to be a good combo. The Ellis/Dirk two man game is great - the Rondo/Dirk two man is developing. However, I don't see a ton of three man games, and would love to see Rondo, Parsons/Ellis, Dirk triangle games, with Chandler diving on the backside and guys like Harris/Parsons/Villanueva spotting up in the backside corner. As predicted, Rondo dominant es the ball and that will push Ellis into a larger jump shooting role, which is obviously not preferred.

On the positive side, the transition game will only get better and the team has guys that can finish, as well as good secondary transition shooters. I imagine team D will continue to gel as well.


Disagree on rondo and Ellis. Has been a lot better than I thought it would be at this point and should be encouraging as they get used to each other.
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Here's to hoping a couple of big concerns work themselves out as the team gels with Rondo:

1) defense is still a total siv - in fact, point guards have continued to kill them, despite the supposed prowess of Rondo as a perimeter defender. With the athleticism of Rondo, Harris and Ellis, there's no excuse to ole guards into the lane.

2) Rondo is taking a sheet ton of shots. Maybe that's Carlisle encouraging him to push his own scoring opps, but good god is he inefficient.

3) Rondo and Ellis don't appear to be a good combo. The Ellis/Dirk two man game is great - the Rondo/Dirk two man is developing. However, I don't see a ton of three man games, and would love to see Rondo, Parsons/Ellis, Dirk triangle games, with Chandler diving on the backside and guys like Harris/Parsons/Villanueva spotting up in the backside corner. As predicted, Rondo dominant es the ball and that will push Ellis into a larger jump shooting role, which is obviously not preferred.

On the positive side, the transition game will only get better and the team has guys that can finish, as well as good secondary transition shooters. I imagine team D will continue to gel as well.
Agree with all of that.
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Here's to hoping a couple of big concerns work themselves out as the team gels with Rondo:

1) defense is still a total siv - in fact, point guards have continued to kill them, despite the supposed prowess of Rondo as a perimeter defender. With the athleticism of Rondo, Harris and Ellis, there's no excuse to ole guards into the lane.

2) Rondo is taking a sheet ton of shots. Maybe that's Carlisle encouraging him to push his own scoring opps, but good god is he inefficient.

3) Rondo and Ellis don't appear to be a good combo. The Ellis/Dirk two man game is great - the Rondo/Dirk two man is developing. However, I don't see a ton of three man games, and would love to see Rondo, Parsons/Ellis, Dirk triangle games, with Chandler diving on the backside and guys like Harris/Parsons/Villanueva spotting up in the backside corner. As predicted, Rondo dominant es the ball and that will push Ellis into a larger jump shooting role, which is obviously not preferred.

On the positive side, the transition game will only get better and the team has guys that can finish, as well as good secondary transition shooters. I imagine team D will continue to gel as well.


Disagree on rondo and Ellis. Has been a lot better than I thought it would be at this point and should be encouraging as they get used to each other.
Ellis played amazingly the first game with Rondo, but after that he hasn't really had a good game (was decent against Lakers). His shooting numbers are really low.
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Big game against a solid Washington team tonight.
RAM 12
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R0GUE
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Went to the game again tonight. What a great game. We have so many offensive weapons and the defense was rock solid. Rondo is starting to gel.
RAM 12
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Rondo is going off tonight!
AggieSportsGuy
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Starting to groove.
RAM 12
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4th place! 13 of our next 18 are on the road so these kind of wins are important.
TheMasterplan
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Brandan Wright was garbage. Good trade.
Scotty Flamingo
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What's the latest on Jermaine O Neal? We still need a backup center
R0GUE
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Tyson Destroys Cavs Defense
mavsfan4ever
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I heard O'neal is deciding soon. I think we are the favorites to land him.
RAM 12
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Hard fought win. Can't believe we overcame that poor of shooting. Tyson was a beast and our defense carried us for a lot of that game. I'll take the win!
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Since the Mavs once again RTS, I figure this thread should stay up top.

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What's the latest on Jermaine O Neal? We still need a backup center
So, Dalembert just got waived. Worth bringing back?
 
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