Official 2012-2013 Memphis Grizzlies Thread

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4stringAg
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Memphis radio was reporting that it was Gay/Haddadi for Davis/Calderon/2nd round pick then Calderon from Memphis to Detroit for Prince and Austin Day.

Essentially, Grizz lose Rudy Gay and Haddadi and get Davis, Prince, Day, and a 2nd round pick
DallasAg2011
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MemAg, do you like the deal?

It seems like yall got rid of one of the best players in the league and gotten a couple of so so pieces.

Is it a salary dump?
Gigem Trevas
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Rudy Gay was payed all star money when he was an above average player. He had the potential to be a star it just never materialized.
Simplebay
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They saved 26MM over the next 3 years and traded the best player in the deal, by a mile.

Yes, salary dump.

Miami Heat players already commenting on being happy about it
Iowaggie
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Yes, they are saving a ton of money, but for what...to slide into averageness like the Houston Rockets (with Holliger playing the role of Morey)? Or worse, fall like the Sac Kings (with Pera/Levien playing the role of the Maloofs)

This was the best team the Grizzlies had. They had the 5th best record overall, and over the last 2 years, they had played the 3 teams above them to 7 game series, but never with a healthy ZBo and Rudy together.

Teams don't get better by giving up the best player in the trade.

I'm sure GSW are happy about the deal.
Gigem Trevas
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This is unwatchable at the moment.
Iowaggie
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I quit watching when it was about a 20 point deficit. I'm now just watching game tracker while working. It is now at 10. If it get to 8 or 6, I might start watching.

Any Grizz run gets stopped by OKC free throws.
Gigem Trevas
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Get ready to hear about how trading Gay was a mistake.
Enzo The Baker
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Wasn't it though? They have one of the worst offenses in the league and traded their best scorer, getting no scorers in return.
Gigem Trevas
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He wasn't worth what he was being paid. If his salary was 8-10 million yes it was a mistake. I am in wait and see mode before I declare it a bad trade.
4stringAg
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Ugly game last night, particularly for Z-bo. Grizz did fight back but could never threaten.

Regarding the trade, I'm in kind of the same boat Trevas is in. Wait and see. I was hoping after the Ellington/Speights trade that we had commitment to keeping the core together for a possible run this year. Objectively I can see why they made the deal but it does take away a big scoring threat from a team who is offensively challenged to begin with.

The big question for me is can Randolph and Gasol and Conley absorb the offense from Rudy's absence? Can Randolph play like he did 2 years ago when Rudy was out? Randolph just came off his worst month scoring wise I think since he's been in the league capping it with a bad perfomance last night. Hopefully that is not a trend because for the Grizz to make any kind of noise the rest of the year, they are going to have to get better production from Z-bo, Gasol, and Conley; while guys like Bayless, Arthur, Prince, Davis are all going to have to provide scoring.
Iowaggie
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I don't think the debate is about whether Rudy was worth what he was getting paid, that is a hard argument to make*.

The question is whether or not they are better without Rudy and/or if this new roster has an increased chance to get to the WCF or beyond. I'd say no to both.

Improved flexibility is nice, but it means crap if they can't get to the top. While they were longshots this year, they were at least in the discussion. I'm hopeful they will fit better, but I'm also ready to give up on the season.


*Tangent topic: Small market teams have to over pay for free agents?
Iowaggie
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Also, there is a rumor that Rudy wanted out. He wasn't Pau Gasol vocal about it, but I could buy it.

If he wanted out, the trade makes a lot more sense.

2nd part of article: http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-phoenix-suns-pursuing-josh-smith/
Iowaggie
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Edit to add (since I double posted): I have tickets for tonights Wizards game.

If they lose, I'll probably start muttering as I walk out, "Don't care, beat 'Bama. Won Heisman. 7 months until football."

[This message has been edited by Iowaggie (edited 2/1/2013 11:22a).]
Gigem Trevas
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Go Grizz
Gigem Trevas
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Glad I decided not to drive 3 hours to OKC last night to go see the game with a friend. Would have been a total disaster. The last two times I tried but couldn't go to Memphis-OKC Memphis won both.

[This message has been edited by Gigem Trevas (edited 2/1/2013 11:29a).]
4stringAg
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Tayshaun getting ready to see his first action as a Grizz...and hits his first attempt.

[This message has been edited by MemAg92 (edited 2/1/2013 7:30p).]
4stringAg
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Lowest scoring offensive team in the league shoots 60% and goes for 30 in the first quarter. Grizzlies turning the ball over (Wroten and Allen on the floor at the same time is a recipe for disaster as neither can shoot and are both wild as hell)
4stringAg
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Ugly game so far. Neither team shooting well now and a lot of turnovers.
4stringAg
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Grizz win . Prince with a really nice debut with 14 points off the bench. Conley and Gasol with nice games.

Randolph another clunker with 7 points. Back to back single digit efforts. With Gay gone, Randolph is going to have to step up with more scoring to beat the better teams in the league.

[This message has been edited by MemAg92 (edited 2/1/2013 9:17p).]
Gigem Trevas
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Glad to get a win.
Iowaggie
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Not a real full house in Memphis tonight. Crowd gave Prince a nice hand, and he played well.


Rudy tore it up for Toronto playing with Lowry, just like OJ and Greivis are doing well with their non-winning teams.
4stringAg
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WTF are the Grizzlies doing? Its like they are throwing this game with the Suns. Watch where you are passing and look for the ball...
4stringAg
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Bad loss.
Iowaggie
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this team is horrible to watch.

Gigem Trevas
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4stringAg
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Atlanta tonight who seems to have owned the Grizz.

Still can't get over that loss last night. Heard a snippet from an interview with Z-bo and he sounded as frustrated as I've ever heard him.
Gigem Trevas
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Another bad loss.
4stringAg
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This team is lost right now. No hustle, no energy. Two nights in a row, Conley has been taken to the woodshed defensively.
Iowaggie
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Also, the team just rolled out the new season ticket packages.
It probably was poor timing to announce a price increase.

Our group probably will not renew.
4stringAg
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Iowa, I've talked to at least 5 people I work with that share your sentiments.
Iowaggie
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ZBo wins his 2nd Kia Community Assist award.

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/07/zach-randolph-kia-community-assist-award-january/index.html

Joins other multi winners of the award including Rudy Gay, Pau Gasol, and Mike Miller (all for work with St. Jude).
Iowaggie
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Some times Tony Allen does the dumbest things!!!!

5 point lead with 25 seconds, he misses both free throws, but gets the rebound, and instead of passing it out, the dumbass not only shoots, but commits a charging foul and fouls out.
Iowaggie
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After going 18-19 at the FT line, the Grizz win, even after missing 3 of 4 at the FT line.

Team Hero: Marc Gasol, 20 pt, 11 reb, 5 assist


Hon Men: Tony Allen, 17 pts, and not killing the team with stupid shots, in spite of the end of the game shenanigans.

Grizz open up 1.5 lead on the Warriors (have won 10 straight against them).

And Clips lost.
Gigem Trevas
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Thank goodness finally get a win.
 
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