So who will be the new USMNT Manager?

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The most vocal and visible elements of our fanbase didn't want Berhalter from before he ever coached a game. He would have had to overperform just for certain folks to be be satisfied. The same type of person, that didnt want to initially accept Michael Bradley was our best midfielder while his father was our coach, etc.

Its not a huge issue, but its something that a Jesse Marsch or Steve Cherundolo or Herve Renard would likely have to deal with as the atmosphere in the fanbase, but probably not something that a Jurgen Klopp would even gaf about (although those folks would likely be mollified Klopp, but will likely turn back up once the team starts getting picked)
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There's a good chunk of the better MLS managers, like Curtin and Nancy, who are a bad fit for a national team job. They run complicated systems that require lots of time and practice to get players on the same page gelling. Honestly the best fit from the league would probably be Schmetzer in Seattle. He's pretty flexible as far as systems go and tries to fit it around the personnel he has. That said I a) doubt he wants it and b) I don't want it either because he IS Seattle soccer and I'd be super sad to see him go. Plus he's not without warts that would drive fans crazy. Not great with subs.
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TRM said:

I'm curious who the search firm recommended be hired in 2023 since they didn't back Berhalter.


Search firms don't make decisions.

They gather candidates and list the pros and cons of each.

Every hire is determined by the client and not the search firm.


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TRM
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Hence the word recommendation.
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JJxvi said:

The most vocal and visible elements of our fanbase didn't want Berhalter from before he ever coached a game.
But that's just the thing. He had already coached a game - lots of them. And he sucked at it.
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You know, if I really thought that Klopp would virtually guarantee say a QF appearance (I don't think it does by the way), I would offer to let him take the rest of the year off and start Jan 2025. Not the full year he wanted but maybe he goes for it.

But yeah, not really surprising that he's not interested.
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TRM said:

Hence the word recommendation.


You mean the pool of candidates?

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Pretty good article with 10 potential candidates strengths and weaknesses:

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/11/next-usmnt-coach-klopp-henry-southgate-berhalter-sacked

I like the sound of Southgate, Low, and Wagner...
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The fan base wants the likes of Low or Klopp

The fan base should get ready for the likes of Big Sam
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Glad klopp gave us a quick answer so we can kill that dream. Sucks, but it least it was quick
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I'd take Guus
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TRM said:


I've been saying all along that I take Klopp to be a man of his word about taking a full year off.

But what is encouraging is that we tried. It lends some optimism to Dre's theory that Crocker is gonna try to put his stamp on this hire.

And what is interesting is that we reached out last week before Ggg was officially fired. Not sure precisely what that means, but it does make me glad that the execs weren't just waiting things out and hoping to be able to keep Ggg like Twitter guys think.
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

" in the face of what is a toxic and unreasonable fan base."

I'll give you toxic given what we have seen since 2018, but not sure how our fan base is unreasonable. Seems the majority just wanted something different than Greggg 2 years ago at a minimum. No one expects us to win everything, but we surely expect to be competitive.


Idk. The fanbase is pretty toxic even when the team puts on a decent or good performance. Heck, most of the stuff from Twitter that gets pulled over to this board is from troll accounts.
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jeffk said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

" in the face of what is a toxic and unreasonable fan base."

I'll give you toxic given what we have seen since 2018, but not sure how our fan base is unreasonable. Seems the majority just wanted something different than Greggg 2 years ago at a minimum. No one expects us to win everything, but we surely expect to be competitive.


Idk. The fanbase is pretty toxic even when the team puts on a decent or good performance. Heck, most of the stuff from Twitter that gets pulled over to this board is from troll accounts.
Yeah I agree.

I'm glad he got fired, but the level of hate out there right now is really awful.

No reasonable person should be able to look back on Reyna-gate and praise those turds for what they did. You can dislike his coaching plenty without making it personal and those turds are the epitome of making it personal.
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deadbq03 said:

jeffk said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

" in the face of what is a toxic and unreasonable fan base."

I'll give you toxic given what we have seen since 2018, but not sure how our fan base is unreasonable. Seems the majority just wanted something different than Greggg 2 years ago at a minimum. No one expects us to win everything, but we surely expect to be competitive.


Idk. The fanbase is pretty toxic even when the team puts on a decent or good performance. Heck, most of the stuff from Twitter that gets pulled over to this board is from troll accounts.
Yeah I agree.

I'm glad he got fired, but the level of hate out there right now is really awful.

No reasonable person should be able to look back on Reyna-gate and praise those turds for what they did. You can dislike his coaching plenty without making it personal and those turds are the epitome of making it personal.
Reyna's were the epitome of dbags, but Ggg should NEVER have let internal business outside.
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I agree, but that's not the point I'm making, nor do I want to dig up that old discussion.

My point is that Twitter is full of people praising the Reynas as saviors of the program for standing up to Ggg… and that's merely one example of how viscous and hateful people are being right now. I think I'm gonna stay off it for a few days till this calms down, and rely on y'all to pass along anything worth seeing.
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deadbq03 said:

I agree, but that's not the point I'm making, nor do I want to dig up that old discussion.

My point is that Twitter is full of people praising the Reynas as saviors of the program for standing up to Ggg… and that's merely one example of how viscous and hateful people are being right now. I think I'm gonna stay off it for a few days till this calms down, and rely on y'all to pass along anything worth seeing.


Sorry. Missed your point.
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We don't have any competitive games between now and the WC do we?
akm91
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Nations League and Gold Cup in 2025.
deadbq03
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No worries at all; I didn't write well.
KCup17
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Ahh thanks. I could remember if we squeezed in a nations league and gold cup before the next WC or not.
We've got to win both. Nothing less.
akm91
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The wait for the new manager is going to be very agonizing. Think the goal is to have someone in place by the Sept. friendlies.
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akm91 said:

The wait for the new manager is going to be very agonizing. Think the goal is to have someone in place by the Sept. friendlies.


Man. I want them in place by early August watching film of every player in the pool. Realizing what they do best and putting together the line up that meshes the best utilizing the strengths of each player and minimizing the weaknesses.

Wishful thinking, I know.
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Yes, wishful thinking. You're talking about the federation that just fired the coach it basically put on leave after a disappointing performance at the last WC only to bring back after a 6-month hiatus and "investigation" following the Gio Reyna debacle. To paraphrase Barack Obama "Don't underestimate USSF's ability to **** things up."
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If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Didn't Klopp already say no?
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Steven Gerrard. Ok. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

That list is missing such European luminaries like Frank Lampard, Big Sam and Tony Pulis. And Roy Hodgson. Let's not forget Roy.
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Mathguy64 said:

Steven Gerrard. Ok. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

That list is missing such European luminaries like Frank Lampard, Big Sam and Tony Pulis. And Roy Hodgson. Let's not forget Roy.


I think perhaps Wayne Rooney.
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This seems like a guy who is about to take the USMNT job.

For those that can't listen, he was asked:

"...is it your intention to being the head coach for LAFC thru the end of the season and that's where your head is at?"

Cherundolo responded:

"I am the head coach of LAFC right now and that's my job. It's what I do every single day and we are training tomorrow morning at 11:15...and I will be there for that."

Rudyjax
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sorry, i didn't even see the post above this.
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Legal Custodian said:

This seems like a guy who is about to take the USMNT job.

For those that can't listen, he was asked:

"...is it your intention to being the head coach for LAFC thru the end of the season and that's where your head is at?"

Cherundolo responded:

"I am the head coach of LAFC right now and that's my job. It's what I do every single day and we are training tomorrow morning at 11:15...and I will be there for that."


I don't understand why Herc gets so much hate. I love how blunt he is. I guess from former players, he gets hated because of his very average career on the pitch, but I think dude crushes as a media guy
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Agreed
akm91
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I think Poch would be interesting but international world is a lot different than club ball. He did pretty damn well at Tottenham
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Maybe he doesn't want to be accused of lying if he's offered and takes the USMNT job.
 
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