1. Klein becomes very predictable in the run game and goes too vanilla too often.
2. The defense needs to be far more disciplined. We gave up too many big runs up the middle and on the edge. We still have guys trying to bump ball carriers down instead of wrapping up. That is on the coaches because you bench guys for that and they will learn. We didn't rotate enough and the D looked gassed.

Spot on...not enough RPO w/ QB like Reed. That option on short side of the field was definitely a "WTF" moment w/ Klein. Our D has regressed with LB & secondary getting torched...smh.

Klein thought he had Tom Brady pocket passing the entire 1st half.

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Right a freshman in his 6th start who has great legs, but we drop him back 30+ times…we run it inside on second down every single time…and we have 2nd and 6 in OT to win the ball game and he again runs it inside and then tuns an option to the short side??

Not to mention not taking a t/o on that play. Stupid

Half of this board could have called 2 plays to get a first down there but he manages to do the same things over and over and over ….

He gets out coached every week, and we have better talent.

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That 2nd Ot play calling was putrid

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Ags are delusional. Were averaging 30 something points a game and you want to get rid of the OC? How many points per game would be enough?

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Against decent defenses we don't, we just played the easiest schedule we've had since we've been in the SEC.
He is way to predictable, in key times game after game we go flat….we had one really good drive that the kids overcame 3rd and long several times to bail his play calling out.
Go watch the game(s) he tries to out guess the defenses and gets burned time after time.
The defense got gashed yes, plenty of threads on that and I agree we have looked weaker and weaker as the weeks have gone by ESP against power running games and the deep ball play action. Their OC's seem to manage to call plays that get people unaccounted for and wide open, we don't ever unless it's a scramble drill.

Even when we do find something that works…6-8 yard passes to Thomas, we go away from it to run a short side option on 3rd and 6 to try and win the game….really?

At this point he's over matched in the SEC it's obvious. I think a lot of Conner's issues he owns, then he gets Reed and tries to turn him into Conner.
It's mind boggling to be able to sit on the couch and call his plays ahead of time over and over again, if I can do it, every DC in the country can do it.

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vander54 said:

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We scored the most points Auburn has given up in regulation and Klein is the problem?

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either Klein sucks or Reed sucks. This offense is a joke half the time or more.

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Really? Better than anything rolled out there the prior two years and hopefully without the injuries and more skill talent, only gets better.

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Agryan00 said:

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Ags are delusional. Were averaging 30 something points a game and you want to get rid of the OC? How many points per game would be enough?

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Nailed it. The whiners and criers are getting ridiculous.

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13 against ND
26 against Bowling Green
21 against Ark
20 against SC

You can argue we had one really good offensive game against Miz with Conner and a 9 min stretch with Reed running on LSU that have been the highlights all year against an incredibly weak Sec schedule. Not crying, presenting facts and I want us to be better than the avg. team we've been forever. Let's move on and get another OC in here.

Add Owens or Moss to this offense and you're in trouble. Legit scary things will happen. Speed kills.

This was on the defense, which has inexplicably fallen apart the past 2 weeks. Auburn hasn't scored more than 24 in league play all year and we gave up 31 in regulation. The most points Auburn has given up this year was 31 to Georgia and we matched that in regulation.

You're looking at the wrong side of the ball.

I think defense is the issue. Something has happened over the past month. Against SC we couldn't tackle. Last night we got no pressure on their QB.

Very true. He doesn't call the best plays.

Not sure why he kept trying to run the ball to the left when nothing was working out. Kept repeating the process with the same results.

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vander54 said:

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We scored the most points Auburn has given up in regulation and Klein is the problem?

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Yes he is, and point totals don't count for much when you got to 4 OT's

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Reading comprehension don't count for much when you got to 4 OT's, either. Or when you let the jokes write themselves.

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Dugie said:

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vander54 said:

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We scored the most points Auburn has given up in regulation and Klein is the problem?

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Yes he is, and point totals don't count for much when you got to 4 OT's

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Reading comprehension don't count for much when you got to 4 OT's, either. Or when you let the jokes write themselves.

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Ok sorry missed that….it was Auburn, all other arguments remain intact…

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We gave up 34 points in regulation.

It's worse for South Carolina. Def more of a defensive issue.

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31, but yeah

What is Klein going to learn in year 5 that he's missed in years 1-4? For starters it's obvious the only QBs interested in playing for Klein are runners without touch. Now he can't even get one of those to commit.

we are the highest scoring team in the sec play. we have scored more points in 7 games than georgia scored in 8. what in the hell are you guys talking about.?

one more time we are the highest scoring team in sec play. definitely not the defense with a devinsive head coach it's that pesky highest scoring offense.

i am no klein apologist and don't like every call he makes but many of you are morons.

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Moronic, not even trying to get the first down play calls, on our last drive in regulation and on our 2nd OT drive gave away the win.

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Playing not to lose is the epitome of a loser.

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DoubleDoozie said:

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Klein didn't lose that game for us, 21 free points did

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Maybe but Klein didn't really try to be creative until our ass was to the fire. We needed to win this game. Call the game from the jump with that fire. That 3rd and 6 play call in OT with the option to the short side of the field was just too much for me.

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That option call was ridiculous. You could see Reed didn't want to run that or have a feel for how to really execute. Where the hell did Klein pull that from.

This game wasn't on Klein. This game was on Bateman and the defense.

Auburn only averaged 16 point per game in the SEC yet scored 21 point before we even woke up.

Vandy held Auburn to 7, Arkansas held them to 14. California held them to 14.

The Defense was beyond pathetic last night.

Rarely see any innovation or WOW plays

We aren't good on offense or defense. So should we go ahead and get rid of the head coach as well? He' the one responsible for this ****ery.

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Only in the zoo can we score 30+ points in regulation on a good defense yet give up 30+ to a putrid offense and people complaining about the offense.

The defense lost the game last night. Auburn couldn't score on any team with a pulse this year, yet ran up and down the field on us for most of the game.

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It's not one game. The offense has been anemic the entire season, except where opposing teams didn't prepare for the correct flavor of vanilla.

If you think Klein is the problem, you don't know football.

Agryan00 said:

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Ags are delusional. Were averaging 30 something points a game and you want to get rid of the OC? How many points per game would be enough?

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As long as the scoreboard shows we have 1 point more than the opponent. We spotted USCe a huge lead and did the same with Auburn. We manage to tie it up and then when the game was there for the taking, we **** the bed.

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Only in the zoo can we score 30+ points in regulation on a good defense yet give up 30+ to a putrid offense and people complaining about the offense.

The defense lost the game last night. Auburn couldn't score on any team with a pulse this year, yet ran up and down the field on us for most of the game.

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Spotting them a 21 point lead to start the game was a death blow. If we could have matched their scores in the first half, our second half dominance would've given us a comfortable lead. I think Thorne's confidence spike after their throttling of UL Monroe…..it was just bad timing for us….Buzz Saw #2!!!

vander54 said:

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We scored the most points Auburn has given up in regulation and Klein is the problem?

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Exactly this.

We have made this offense an over-achieving unit. Klein and the offense are limited on talent and that's fixable.

Significantly more concerned about the defense. That's supposed to be Elko's baby and something has to change.

It's not a talent issue IMO. We're letting teams score above their season averages (double it, matter of fact) and are pretty clearly regressing on that side of the ball.

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That 2nd Ot play calling was putrid

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This is delusional.

We hit a guy wide open and it was a drop. This almost has to be a troll.

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As long as the scoreboard shows we have 1 point more than the opponent. We spotted USCe a huge lead and did the same with Auburn. We manage to tie it up and then when the game was there for the taking, we **** the bed.

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We spotted them a huge lead, then tied it. AND THEN SCORED DICK IN THE SECOND HALF.

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Only in the zoo can we score 30+ points in regulation on a good defense yet give up 30+ to a putrid offense and people complaining about the offense.

The defense lost the game last night. Auburn couldn't score on any team with a pulse this year, yet ran up and down the field on us for most of the game.

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It's incredible.

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Klein and Elko both need to go.

Klein is a worthless, predictable OC, and Elko who ii supposed to be some defensive genius had no answer for one of the worst offenses in the conference.

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what are you talking about? Did you even bother to fact check yourself before you spewed an uneducated opinion? Auburn has the 6th highest offense in the SEC...