Conspiracy theory would be the NC State committee chairman blew up FSU's chances since FSU is looking to blow up the ACC?
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ESPN was and always has been in the room. Just ask RC.
R E L said:zb008 said:
If FSU played Bama's schedule, would they still be undefeated? Maybe ask that crybaby this question.
Would sip?
sip would be 9-3 AT BEST!!!
TOTAL GARBAGE!!! NCAA is a JOKE!!!!
CORRUPT tsip machine strikes again. They have NO BUSINESS being in and they know it!!!
bigdaddygriffin said:
If we are a one loss team next year in a 12 team playoff, I would think we wouldn't be on the 12/13 border....
Until 2 loss ND, Bama, Ohio St, etc get picked because "feelz"
That could have been said about tu also. If it wasn't for a knucklehead call by the K St coach and a bad ball spot against UH tu wouldn't even be in the discussion.AustinAg2K said:zb008 said:
If FSU played Bama's schedule, would they still be undefeated? Maybe ask that crybaby this question.
Bama played Bama's schedule and wasn't undefeated and looked bad in many games. People already forget it took a miracle to beat a bad Auburn team two weeks ago.
Not like us old Ags haven't seen this movie and all the many remakes before. Same as it ever was...Quote:
a bad ball spot against UH tu wouldn't even be in the discussion.
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Sure but the argument between 12 and 13 is a very different argument than 5-7 this year I think most would agree.Gunny456 said:
The same politics and BS will select the 12 instead of just 4. If you don't change the system it doesn't matter how many spots there is. Bottom line it's not about what happens on the field…, this exposes the whole deal…. It's nothing more than a political and media driven popularity contest.
Imagine if it had been Baylor or shoot, even OU with Texas's exact resume,, both would've been 5, and everyone knows it. Them being at 3 and knocking FSU out is 100% because of who they are not what they did.
Nope.riverrataggie said:
100% spot on. This will have an impact long term.
It's a 12 team playoff starting next year. Unless you care about teams that couldn't make the top 12 regardless of how selected.
zb008 said:
Do you guys want to see the 4 best teams, or a team without a quarterback get stomped? I'd much rather watch a full-strength Bama team.
The committee turned it into a f'n popularity contest this year. Winning only matters if your school is the right brand.
This is the reason why teams run up the score for they say it does not matter but it does.
What FSU got is what we got when Notre Dame was selected over us when we went 9-1 a few years ago.
APHIS AG said:
What FSU got is what we got when Notre Dame was selected over us when we went 9-1 a few years ago.
Truly amazing how many people think this. Notre Dame had 2 more wins than we did. Their resume was better. Be mad at Ohio St who got in and shouldn't have been able to qualify.
The true debate is bama vs FSU and I think FSU got screwed.
texas was #3 in the media, committee, vegas, etc. It wasn't even a debate other than some ill informed on here.
texas is favored over washington
texas was #3 in the media, committee, vegas, etc. It wasn't even a debate other than some ill informed on here.
texas is favored over washington
FSU got unlucky that bama beat Georgia. I don't think Texas gets in if that didn't happen... Once Georgia lost, they figured out a way to get an sec team in there... That required adding Texas too, since they best bama.
R E L said:
"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff," Alford said. "And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose to evaluate performance on the field."
Cut from the same cloth as the Men's CBB NCAAT selection committee.
Only Fans Director said:
The 12 team playoff has discrete rules on who gets in.
Next year all the P5 conference champs get in and the rest is based on rankings.
What are the "P5" conferences? With the dissolution of the Pac-12 I only count a "Power 4"...
So basically its no different than it has ever been....inconsistency is the one constant when selecting playoff and NC contenders.R E L said:
"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff," Alford said. "And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose to evaluate performance on the field."
Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:Only Fans Director said:
The 12 team playoff has discrete rules on who gets in.
Next year all the P5 conference champs get in and the rest is based on rankings.
What are the "P5" conferences? With the dissolution of the Pac-12 I only count a "Power 4"...
This is actually a problem for the committee. Legally the Pac12 still exists and they could invite any crap 10 teams to join and still be considered "P5" because that's what's written in the contracts for the CFP. It's why any mergers that occur will almost certainly keep the Pac12 name.
Aston04 said:
FSU got unlucky that bama beat Georgia. I don't think Texas gets in if that didn't happen... Once Georgia lost, they figured out a way to get an sec team in there... That required adding Texas too, since they best bama.
THIS.
If Georgia wins against Bama last night, the committee just picks the 4 undefeated Conference Champs and goes to bed early.
Emilio Fantastico said:Greetings said:Let it go. A&M lost a game by 100 points in 2020.Heisenberg01 said:
Where was all this hand ringing for A&M after 2020? Everyone sat back quiet then, so don't care about your school now.
Actually, A&M played Bama the closest of anyone in 2020. So GFY
Are you just ignorant or outright lying?
Alabama beat us by 28 points.
They beat Missouri by 19 points.
They beat Ole Miss by 15 points.
They beat Georgia by 17 points.
They beat Florida by 6 points.
They beat Notre Dame by 17 points.
Seriously, do you just make crap up?
TXAG 05 said:APHIS AG said:
What FSU got is what we got when Notre Dame was selected over us when we went 9-1 a few years ago.
Truly amazing how many people think this. Notre Dame had 2 more wins than we did. Their resume was better. Be mad at Ohio St who got in and shouldn't have been able to qualify.
Comparing what happened to A&M in 2020 to what just happened to FSU is insane. We had a good 2020. I never understood why we felt we deserved to be in more than Notre Dame.
Crazy Ag 97 said:
Imagine if it had been Baylor or shoot, even OU with Texas's exact resume,, both would've been 5, and everyone knows it. Them being at 3 and knocking FSU out is 100% because of who they are not what they did.
Alabama is the one that knocked FSU out. Be reasonable. Putting Alabama in would have been ridiculous given they lost the head to head game.
zb008 said:
If FSU played Bama's schedule, would they still be undefeated? Maybe ask that crybaby this question.
They would if they played the sips schedule. Troll
Feel for FSU
They were 100% left out to make sure the better TV draw was not (something we too felt when we were snubbed for ND) while the committee just shrugs and says "oh well but it'll be 12 teams next year!"
They were 100% left out to make sure the better TV draw was not (something we too felt when we were snubbed for ND) while the committee just shrugs and says "oh well but it'll be 12 teams next year!"
I wouldnt be surprised if FSU resorts to litigation. There are huge financial implications.
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I'm not talking about spot number 12. I'm saying that if a playoff committee can disqualify a team because they " think" a team can't perform up to their standards because a particular player is hurt…. Then the system is flawed deeply….. no matter if there is 12 spots or 20.
They should not be able to decide that.
Do you think if Ewers would have been hurt they would have kept Texas out?
Honest question.
They should not be able to decide that.
Do you think if Ewers would have been hurt they would have kept Texas out?
Honest question.
AustinAg2K said:Tergdor said:Champions aren't always the best team in a single elimination playoff. But you knew that.AustinAg2K said:Tergdor said:Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.kwammer said:no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.Tergdor said:
They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.
You're not getting it. The head to head would only matter to this person If Bama best Texas lol..
They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.
The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.
Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.
Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.
If head to head only matters so much, then why do we use head to head match ups to determine the national champion?
H2H should never be the sole deciding factor in playoff and seeding selections.
You understand that we use H2H in the playoffs itself? If you're saying H2H isn't all that important, then why are we using head to head match ups im each round of the playoffs?
If the committee knows better about who the best team is than actual on field results, then we should just let the committee pick the winner.
Eliminatus said:
Undefeated P5 conference champions with wins over 4 ranked schools and two OOC SEC road wins…
This sport died quite a bit today in my eyes. And I hate FSU.
Does Milroe with a broken leg keep Bama out???
Yes, his back ups are terrible.
College football is a load of bull****.
rootube said:Sure but the argument between 12 and 13 is a very different argument than 5-7 this year I think most would agree.Gunny456 said:
The same politics and BS will select the 12 instead of just 4. If you don't change the system it doesn't matter how many spots there is. Bottom line it's not about what happens on the field…, this exposes the whole deal…. It's nothing more than a political and media driven popularity contest.
Actually it's not.
You either deserve to be in or you don't. Anew system is clearly needed.
Besides messing up who is in and out.
They will protect their favorites with bracket positioning. Give certain teams better match ups, give certain teams home games, ensure certain teams are on the road.
This whole thing totally ripped the mask off of this charade.
Geminiv said:Eliminatus said:
Undefeated P5 conference champions with wins over 4 ranked schools and two OOC SEC road wins…
This sport died quite a bit today in my eyes. And I hate FSU.
Does Milroe with a broken leg keep Bama out???
Yes, his back ups are terrible.
LOL
Bama lost their best WR two years ago. Then they lost in the playoffs. And said that's why they lost. But they still got in.
The whole Travis injury story was total BS.
The committee will state what ever they like.
They had FSU at 4 the last two weeks. And now move them to 5. LOL
Everyone
Please just stop.
This entire ordeal has made it crystal clear what many already thought. The whole entire thing is fake.
It really is simple. Article 3 of the committees guidelines calls for consideration if predominant players are injured.The FSU quarterback was their best player therefore they are definitely not the same team.
How easy to figure out. They picked the teams who they thought were the best now.
How easy to figure out. They picked the teams who they thought were the best now.
For the players' safety, let's just run models based on talent at the beginning of the season to determine game winners and the ultimate champion, and then have computer simulated games played on the big screens in the stadiums.
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