Breaking: The Big Ten is expected to move ahead with formal offer letters for Oregon and Washington, sources tell @PeteThamel.

Sources said a vote by the conference later today is expected to be unanimous. pic.twitter.com/xSWbAz0wWM

— ESPN (@espn) August 4, 2023

txagman1998 said:

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2023 is the final season of college football as we know it today. College football will basically be Saturday NFL from 2024 onward. Rivalries? Tradition? Who gives a damn…all that matters now is how big of a payday can the athletic department get from corporate media providers.

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As somebody who is just here as a college football fan and game watcher, I'm excited about the new match-ups. I never watch any of the smaller school's games anyway.

Better match-ups = more entertainment for me ... but maybe that's just me??

Unlike USC and UCLA, they won't get a full revenue share for quite a few years.

David Happymountain said:

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So with this B10 cannibalization of the PAC12, does the Rose Bowl become a conference game at a neutral site?

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I'm guessing it's part of the new 12 team playoff. So, no real alliance anymore?

but as the Big 10 continues to expand...those Michigan vs. Southern Cal or Ohio State vs.. UCLA regular season matchups get fewer and farther between

still going to get a bunch of the usual Big 10 conference matchups...

and as more Pac-12 teams join the Big 10...get more of the same Pac-12 matchups

All the big 10 needs to do is to get FSU and Clemson in the fold, then go after a couple of disgruntled SEC teams and they will own college football, if they don't already. If the big 10 comes knocking teams in the sec might want to answer the door.

so back to arizona, arizona st and utah to join colorado in BDF? if i am BDF i am bringing over even more of the pac 12 than just those four schools. take it up to 20 teams call it a day. BDF needs to stay ahead of the curve not behind it. this is their opportunity.

Artimus Gordon said:

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All the big 10 needs to do is to get FSU and Clemson in the fold, then go after a couple of disgruntled SEC teams and they will own college football, if they don't already. If the big 10 comes knocking teams in the sec might want to answer the door.

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I'll give em tu and ou...no charge.

txagman1998 said:

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2023 is the final season of college football as we know it today. College football will basically be Saturday NFL from 2024 onward. Rivalries? Tradition? Who gives a damn…all that matters now is how big of a payday can the athletic department get from corporate media providers.

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And how big of nil deals can you give. Basically mlb

W said:

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but as the Big 10 continues to expand...those Michigan vs. Southern Cal or Ohio State vs.. UCLA regular season matchups get fewer and farther between

still going to get a bunch of the usual Big 10 conference matchups...

and as more Pac-12 teams join the Big 10...get more of the same Pac-12 matchups

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Yeah the scheduling is gonna be meh, will only add a couple more interesting games. Woo Minnesota vs ucla

AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Where do you think this money is coming from? It's gonna dry up, one school doesn't add that much value. They networks are gonna be tapped out of $$ real soon. Plus most big 10 additions have started as Jr members so itd take a long time to recoup the $$$ if ever

AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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So basically, the states that matter? Football is what drives all this, and people wanna watch great football. The SEC has more great football brands than any other conference. The SEC is just fine…

If Arizona, Arizona State and Utah join the Big 12, that only leaves 4 schools in what was the Pac 12.

Does that mean they lose their automatic qualifier for the 12 team playoff? The power 5 would become the power 4?

The Lost said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Where do you think this money is coming from? It's gonna dry up, one school doesn't add that much value. They networks are gonna be tapped out of $$ real soon. Plus most big 10 additions have started as Jr members so itd take a long time to recoup the $$$ if ever

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A&M brings the Texas market. Thats a lot of football crazy eyeballs dont you think? Do you think more money comes from the southeast? It all about the number of households in these markets and while the SEC may care more, they don't have the headcount. I would love to stay closer to the SEC but in the NIL world we need as much money as we can get to compete going forward.

Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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So basically, the states that matter? Football is what drives all this, and people wanna watch great football. The SEC has more great football brands than any other conference. The SEC is just fine…

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As of today yes. I am more worried about tomorrow.

The Lost said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Where do you think this money is coming from? It's gonna dry up, one school doesn't add that much value. They networks are gonna be tapped out of $$ real soon. Plus most big 10 additions have started as Jr members so itd take a long time to recoup the $$$ if ever

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at least some money can money come from decreased deals with conferences like the pac that were raided and will become nothing more than a G5 conference in terms of competitiveness and appeal.

same wil lhappenj if teams leave the ACC to join the SEC or Big10 - the ACC contract goes way down in value so the networks can increase the value of the SEC and Big10 contracts.

but you are right, at some point expansion is not going to bring any more money to the teams currently in the best leagues, just to the newcomers.

AggieHammer2000 said:

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Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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So basically, the states that matter? Football is what drives all this, and people wanna watch great football. The SEC has more great football brands than any other conference. The SEC is just fine…

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As of today yes. I am more worried about tomorrow.

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The south is gaining residents. The north is losing them. Tomorrow will be even better for the SEC than today is.

Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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So basically, the states that matter? Football is what drives all this, and people wanna watch great football. The SEC has more great football brands than any other conference. The SEC is just fine…

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As of today yes. I am more worried about tomorrow.

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The south is gaining residents. The north is losing them. Tomorrow will be even better for the SEC than today is.

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Austin also has more residents than College Station. I don't think you want to go there.

AggieHammer2000 said:

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The Lost said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Where do you think this money is coming from? It's gonna dry up, one school doesn't add that much value. They networks are gonna be tapped out of $$ real soon. Plus most big 10 additions have started as Jr members so itd take a long time to recoup the $$$ if ever

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A&M brings the Texas market. Thats a lot of football crazy eyeballs dont you think? Do you think more money comes from the southeast? It all about the number of households in these markets and while the SEC may care more, they don't have the headcount. I would love to stay closer to the SEC but in the NIL world we need as much money as we can get to compete going forward.

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Doesn't matter anymore, that was when networks needed to get picked up. Big 10 network comes on YouTube tv and other programming. When you're splitting $80 mill or whatever 16 ways, you have to be worth a **** ton to make those other 16 plus your income make sense. No one can pull that off now. I bet some Jr members are gonna be announced today.

Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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So basically, the states that matter? Football is what drives all this, and people wanna watch great football. The SEC has more great football brands than any other conference. The SEC is just fine…

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As of today yes. I am more worried about tomorrow.

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The south is gaining residents. The north is losing them. Tomorrow will be even better for the SEC than today is.

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But they aren't moving to LA, Miss or Alabama. California added 119,000 millionaires in the last 2 years alone. Miami actually lost 80,000 residents last year. There is growth in the south, but is it people who will cut NIL checks? I am not so sure.

Buck Turgidson said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Never met an Ohio State fan, I guess.

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I can only speak from my game day experiences. Went to the OSU-ND game last year. The OSU fans were great. Way less trashy than Ark, LSU and Alabama. Last time I went to LSU they were burning Porta-potties, Alabama they tried to fight my group as we were walking out, and Arkansas is well Arkansas.

Also, I have 0 trust in Sankey at this point.

You sound like a tsip.

Why does Sankey need to do anything? If the B1G has 18 teams and the SEC has 16, so what? Heck, who cares if the B1G ends up with 20? Eventually one of the conferences will ink a TV deal that isn't supported by the revenue the conference brings in and the bubble will burst. I don't even like the sips or OU, but the SEC has a product that wouldn't be improved by adding much of anyone who is available right now.

To suggest that the SEC is sitting this out and doing nothing is pretty dumb, the SEC started this round, everyone else is responding.