The big problem that the networks ignore is that a large part of college footballs popularity stems from alumni. The Super League model excludes a lot of teams (Oregon State, Utah, etc) that don't bring huge fan numbers, but still generate fans. I will be curious to see how that affects viewership over the next decade. We already have the NFL.

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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So basically, the states that matter? Football is what drives all this, and people wanna watch great football. The SEC has more great football brands than any other conference. The SEC is just fine…

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As of today yes. I am more worried about tomorrow.

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The south is gaining residents. The north is losing them. Tomorrow will be even better for the SEC than today is.

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Austin also has more residents than College Station. I don't think you want to go there.

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And both bring the coveted Houston and Dallas markets. What point do you think you're making?

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Never met an Ohio State fan, I guess.

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I can only speak from my game day experiences. Went to the OSU-ND game last year. The OSU fans were great. Way less trashy than Ark, LSU and Alabama. Last time I went to LSU they were burning Porta-potties, Alabama they tried to fight my group as we were walking out, and Arkansas is well Arkansas.

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Lol at comparing a game your team is playing in vs going to a game. I've had great trips to lsu, arky and bama

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You sound like a tsip.

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I just prefer to be proactive. I am not saying I want A&M to move to the Big 10, but kicking the tires is smart IMO. I think currently the Big 10 is running circles around Sankey. The Big 10 already makes more money, and will widen the gap with this new set of deals.

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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Never met an Ohio State fan, I guess.

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I can only speak from my game day experiences. Went to the OSU-ND game last year. The OSU fans were great. Way less trashy than Ark, LSU and Alabama. Last time I went to LSU they were burning Porta-potties, Alabama they tried to fight my group as we were walking out, and Arkansas is well Arkansas.

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Lol at comparing a game your team is playing in vs going to a game. I've had great trips to lsu, arky and bama

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I saw A&M play OSU in the Sugar Bowl many moons ago. They were nice then too. Also, the guys I went with were fully kitted out in ND gear. Not one problem.

Just a thought: The Big 10 nor ACC have the Texas market.

The Big 12 and SEC does.

I heard something the other day that Birmingham, Al has more college football "eyeballs" than the Bay Area.

Just a thought

It's gonna get ridiculously tough to win a conference championship…

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2023 is the final season of college football as we know it today. College football will basically be Saturday NFL from 2024 onward. Rivalries? Tradition? Who gives a damn…all that matters now is how big of a payday can the athletic department get from corporate media providers.

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While this is sad news your reaction is overly dramatic. For example, we flushed tons of tradition and rivalries down the toilet when we left the SWC and life went on for everyone.

So, I haven't kept up with all the realignment BS but now that the Ducks and Dogs go Big 10, does that bring their total teams up to 18 in that conference? If so, we have 16 and Sankey wants to stay there. I don't have a problem with that. I think we will end up adding another 4 teams, just don't know who or when, possibly in another year or 2.

Membership in the big 10 for usc, ucla, Oregon & Washington opens up the central & eastern time zones to those teams for their conference games. It also opens up the left coast to the western division teams of the big 10.

It Should be a boon for Nebraska football to return to greatness. They were squeezed out by the big12, sec & pac10's recruiting territories.

Adding FSU & Clemson would give the big10 a solid foothold in the south for the eastern division big10 teams.

Ultimately the big10 pulling a couple of SEC teams would put a substantial hurt on the SEC. The mouse is dying of its own self inflicted wounds. Fox sees an opportunity to be the premier carrier of college football and looks to have the wherewithal to do it. The SEC would have to join with the remnants of the ACC to stay competitive with the big 10. Especially since both have media rights with ESPN. It would be a similar situation with ESPN backdooring the horns & Sooners to the SEC.

It's quite obvious that the SEC is at the mercy of what the big 10 is doing. Pull in FSU & Clemson and wait till the SEC starts to come apart at the seams when the sips try to run the show.

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Just a thought: The Big 10 nor ACC have the Texas market.

The Big 12 and SEC does.

I heard something the other day that Birmingham, Al has more college football "eyeballs" than the Bay Area.

Just a thought

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Hence why Cal and Stanford are still out there.

They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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Membership in the big 10 for usc, ucla, Oregon & Washington opens up the central & eastern time zones to those teams for their conference games. It also opens up the left coast to the western division teams of the big 10.

It Should be a boon for Nebraska football to return to greatness. They were squeezed out by the big12, sec & pac10's recruiting territories.

Adding FSU & Clemson would give the big10 a solid foothold in the south for the eastern division big10 teams.

Ultimately the big10 pulling a couple of SEC teams would put a substantial hurt on the SEC. The mouse is dying of its own self inflicted wounds. Fox sees an opportunity to be the premier carrier of college football and looks to have the wherewithal to do it. The SEC would have to join with the remnants of the ACC to stay competitive with the big 10. Especially since both have media rights with ESPN. It would be a similar situation with ESPN backdooring the horns & Sooners to the SEC.

It's quite obvious that the SEC is at the mercy of what the big 10 is doing. Pull in FSU & Clemson and wait till the SEC starts to come apart at the seams when the sips try to run the show.

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Just my 2 cents, but it's been a long time since I've disagreed with someone so much. I think you're amazingly wrong.

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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Membership in the big 10 for usc, ucla, Oregon & Washington opens up the central & eastern time zones to those teams for their conference games. It also opens up the left coast to the western division teams of the big 10.

It Should be a boon for Nebraska football to return to greatness. They were squeezed out by the big12, sec & pac10's recruiting territories.

Adding FSU & Clemson would give the big10 a solid foothold in the south for the eastern division big10 teams.

Ultimately the big10 pulling a couple of SEC teams would put a substantial hurt on the SEC. The mouse is dying of its own self inflicted wounds. Fox sees an opportunity to be the premier carrier of college football and looks to have the wherewithal to do it. The SEC would have to join with the remnants of the ACC to stay competitive with the big 10. Especially since both have media rights with ESPN. It would be a similar situation with ESPN backdooring the horns & Sooners to the SEC.

It's quite obvious that the SEC is at the mercy of what the big 10 is doing. Pull in FSU & Clemson and wait till the SEC starts to come apart at the seams when the sips try to run the show.

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Just my 2 cents, but it's been a long time since I've disagreed with someone so much. I think you're amazingly wrong.

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I agree with all of it except the Nebraska part.

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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I hate all of the consolidation, but A&M needs to seriously consider moving to the Big 10 as well. It's all about dollars at this point and the Big 10 has teams in all of the major markets except Texas, Georgia and Florida. The amount of dollars coming into the Big 10 will dwarf the SEC. For the most part the schools are better in academics than the SEC schools and the Big 10 fans are way classier than the SEC fanbases. Plus a nice middle finger to the SEC for backdoring us with Texas.

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You may have something here.

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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It is gone already. With NIL, college football is going to be NFL light.

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Unlike USC and UCLA, they won't get a full revenue share for quite a few years.

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and I'm betting several schools in the B1G will regret opening the *unequal revenue sharing* can of worms within a few years when Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State start clamoring for a larger share.

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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It is gone already. With NIL, college football is going to be NFL light.

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Up to this point, I disagree. Things haven't changed that much. Time will tell.

What I can't see is how the spares in the B1G and SEC can't see that this is coming to them soon. Vandy, Northwestern, Mississippi schools, Illinois, Indiana, etc…the time bomb that is ticking will get them too.

One day, we will see Penn State, tOSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, ND, Nebraska, OU, Texas, A&M, LSU, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, FSU, South Carolina, Clemson, UNC, Tennessee, Va Tech, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington just pull away and be in a separate NCAA Football Division.

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ntxVol said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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ntxVol said:

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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It is gone already. With NIL, college football is going to be NFL light.

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Up to this point, I disagree. Things haven't changed that much. Time will tell.

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I think NIL will have a great impact on hoops than it will on college football. I personally think donors might tap the breaks regarding crazy NIL deals

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ntxVol said:

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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It is gone already. With NIL, college football is going to be NFL light.

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Up to this point, I disagree. Things haven't changed that much. Time will tell.

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I would love to be wrong.

I guess we will see if toptierag knows what is actually going on. Aug 15th is his projected target date. It's all about the money/greed now. That could be the next volley fired across the college football landscape.

The SEC started this no doubt, but it looks like the Big10 is going to finish it. SEC doesn't have the leverage to add anyone else to the conference. tu &ou didn't add anymore media revenue to the conference. The mouse is hurting financially!

The Big 10 has one FB natty in the last twenty years compared to the SEC's 14 (15 if you count sip). All that needs to be said. Ohio State fans think more about beating Bama in the 2015 semi-final than they do winning the MNC against Oregon. Again, all that needs to be said. The SEC is the measuring stick for all the other conferences when it comes to football, as evidenced by all the other conferences immediately reacting to the SEC adding sip and the thieves. Football is what realignment is centered around, and the SEC is the gold standard for football.

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What I can't see is how the spares in the B1G and SEC can't see that this is coming to them soon. Vandy, Northwestern, Mississippi schools, Illinois, Indiana, etc…the time bomb that is ticking will get them too.

One day, we will see Penn State, tOSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, ND, Nebraska, OU, Texas, A&M, LSU, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, FSU, South Carolina, Clemson, UNC, Tennessee, Va Tech, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington just pull away and be in a separate NCAA Football Division.

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Neb, usce, Va tech aren't making the cut in a money league, and this would eventually die out. You just killed so many people watching the sport that's just go nfl. There's no reason for fans of other schools to care and you need those eyeballs more than you are thinking.

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What I can't see is how the spares in the B1G and SEC can't see that this is coming to them soon. Vandy, Northwestern, Mississippi schools, Illinois, Indiana, etc…the time bomb that is ticking will get them too.

One day, we will see Penn State, tOSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, ND, Nebraska, OU, Texas, A&M, LSU, Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, FSU, South Carolina, Clemson, UNC, Tennessee, Va Tech, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington just pull away and be in a separate NCAA Football Division.

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Neb, usce, Va tech aren't making the cut in a money league, and this would eventually die out. You just killed so many people watching the sport that's just go nfl. There's no reason for fans of other schools to care and you need those eyeballs more than you are thinking.

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Worst case, everyone left out goes back to the student-athlete model and it becomes widely popular...then the cycle repeats itself.

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ntxVol said:

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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It is gone already. With NIL, college football is going to be NFL light.

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Up to this point, I disagree. Things haven't changed that much. Time will tell.

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I can tell you its changed for me. My give-a-**** level for A&M football last year was at a post-high school low.

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The Big 10 has one FB natty in the last twenty years compared to the SEC's 14 (15 if you count sip). All that needs to be said. Ohio State fans think more about beating Bama in the 2015 semi-final than they do winning the MNC against Oregon. Again, all that needs to be said. The SEC is the measuring stick for all the other conferences when it comes to football, as evidenced by all the other conferences immediately reacting to the SEC adding sip and the thieves. Football is what realignment is centered around, and the SEC is the gold standard for football.

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Who had the other natty's? That would be USC. If USC gets it going again, do you think all of the California QBs keep going to the SEC? Its time to look to the future, hanging your hat on the past is a sure fire way to get passed.

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ntxVol said:

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AggieHammer2000 said:

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ntxVol said:

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They aren't getting FSU and Clemson. They might pull tu away, in a few years, along with their ***** OU.

If A&M gets greedy, I suppose y'all could join up with Mizzou and be gone as well.

I don't see any other schools leaving the SEC.

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It's all about greed now. Traditions be damned. Dont be the last one on the money train out of town.

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True but, once the SEC ceases to exist, THEN college football as we know it will be gone.

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It is gone already. With NIL, college football is going to be NFL light.

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Up to this point, I disagree. Things haven't changed that much. Time will tell.

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I can tell you its changed for me. My give-a-**** level for A&M football last year was at a post-high school low.

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Let's check back in a few months, A&M is poised to have a good year. Winning has great healing power.

Also in here, Utah and Arizona State have "ramped up" talks with the Big 12.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) August 4, 2023

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The Big 10 has one FB natty in the last twenty years compared to the SEC's 14 (15 if you count sip). All that needs to be said. Ohio State fans think more about beating Bama in the 2015 semi-final than they do winning the MNC against Oregon. Again, all that needs to be said. The SEC is the measuring stick for all the other conferences when it comes to football, as evidenced by all the other conferences immediately reacting to the SEC adding sip and the thieves. Football is what realignment is centered around, and the SEC is the gold standard for football.

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Who had the other natty's? That would be USC. If USC gets it going again, do you think all of the California QBs keep going to the SEC? Its time to look to the future, hanging your hat on the past is a sure fire way to get passed.

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It's been nearly twenty years since USC's last natty. As long as Riley is their coach, they will have zero defense, so that drought will continue for the foreseeable future. Do you see Georgia, LSU, and Bama falling off in the near future? I also think sip is much closer to figuring things out than USC is. The SEC will have it's fair share of flagship football programs for years to come.

All this for "college" football is detrimental. The underdogs and darkhorses are what makes the BB tournament compelling. Some on here can't wait to boot the so called mid-tier teams to the curb. In my opinion, this resembles government...power being concentrated in one place that ultimately serves only the hierarchy at the expense of the institutions and fans.