Wow... you won't even say that a young man threatening to stab retirees based on their race is wrong.
TxAg2012WC,TxAg2012WC said:
Wow... you won't even say that a young man threatening to stab retirees based on their race is wrong.
This thread continues to plumb newer and dumber lows. It needs to be locked up at this point.Quote:
However, this ignores the fact that player used literal criminal assault to silence the old ag. Forcing silence with the threat of violence is virtually indistinguishable from violence itself.
Maybe you and a very small handful of others do, but don't speak for the tens of thousands of other alumnus. And your failure to condemn the threat of slitting someone tells me all I need to know about you and your double standard of racism. It is you who needs to rest.BJC said:TxAg2012WC,TxAg2012WC said:
Wow... you won't even say that a young man threatening to stab retirees based on their race is wrong.
Is it really necessary for me to say it again, this time to your specification so that you can feel better, when I have already mentioned in my previous posts my not condoning physical violence, which by the way, never actually happened despite the heated verbal exchange that took place amongst the two opposing parties of Aggies? Cooler heads eventually prevailed after each side had their say on the issue.
Peer Ag, we currently much have bigger issues at hand concerning our collegiate mater rather than the contested status of a mere statue which regardless of a decision of its future will be soon put to the side once college football season arrives this fall despite the pandemic.
Rest! (...and relax for once.)
Again, Gig 'em!
You should take this crusade to the Campus police . . . . .they are the ones that are actually responsible for law enforcement. Howling at the Moon on TexAgs at 1:30 in the morning is probably not the most productive approach here.Quote:
Right, the threat of political violence obviously means nothing when we can watch some boys play a child's game.
You can attempt to discredit reality, psychology, and philosophy all you want, but a particular partisan group being allowed to threaten and (in numerous other circumstances) use violence to compel a certain way of thinking (here the revision of am institution) is one of the most dangerous norms to create.
But continue being a useful idiot and ignoring what is actually transpiring. This isnt about this particular exchange, both sides will tell you that; this is a war for the heart and soul.
This was a nice rhetorical flourish. Man the barricades!!!!Quote:
But continue being a useful idiot and ignoring what is actually transpiring. This isnt about this particular exchange, both sides will tell you that; this is a war for the heart and soul.
Windy City Ag said:This was a nice rhetorical flourish. Man the barricades!!!!Quote:
But continue being a useful idiot and ignoring what is actually transpiring. This isnt about this particular exchange, both sides will tell you that; this is a war for the heart and soul.
The Old Ag attitude is a tough one though if you are going for the heart and soul angle. The folks willing to argue all day and night on internet boards or go out to campus to defend Sully's honor are a very tiny minority. The tens of thousands of alumni will speak for what A&M stands for and that is out of your control. Once you realize that . . . . it all gets a bit easier to swallow. Institutions change and evolve with the times. It is what it is.
And the term "Useful Idiot" means someone supports a cause they don't understand. Can you articulate this cause you think we are supporting unwittingly? BLM, Marxism, Anarchy, Nihilsim??? What is it we are being shills for here?
TxAg2012WC said:
You are still using evasive language. You already said the old guy revealed his "ugliness" and more than implied the man was a racist, yet you will not directly say a player threatening to "slit" a former student was in the wrong. At most you say you don't support physical violence, but then immediately add that of course nothing happened (again with your cooler head line). However, this ignores the fact that player used literal criminal assault to silence the old ag. Forcing silence with the threat of violence is virtually indistinguishable from violence itself. Come off it man, you are being a dishonest interlocutor or maybe you actually do not see your own blind spots here.
And no, this statue is more important than kids playing football for a season. This is the heart and soul of what makes a 150 year old institution what it is. Some of it is undeniably bad, but much more is honorable and good. Destroying a people's history and culture is literally erasure. I'd rather that statue be untouched than another down of football ever played at Texas A&M.
[url=http://www.bardwords.org/famous-shakespeare-quotes/methinks-thou-dost-protest-too-much.htm][/url]Methinks thou dost protest too muchWindy City Ag said:This was a nice rhetorical flourish. Man the barricades!!!!Quote:
But continue being a useful idiot and ignoring what is actually transpiring. This isnt about this particular exchange, both sides will tell you that; this is a war for the heart and soul.
The Old Ag attitude is a tough one though if you are going for the heart and soul angle. The folks willing to argue all day and night on internet boards or go out to campus to defend Sully's honor are a very tiny minority. The tens of thousands of alumni will speak for what A&M stands for and that is out of your control. Once you realize that . . . . it all gets a bit easier to swallow. Institutions change and evolve with the times. It is what it is.
And the term "Useful Idiot" means someone supports a cause they don't understand. Can you articulate this cause you think we are supporting unwittingly? BLM, Marxism, Anarchy, Nihilsim??? What is it we are being shills for here?
Windy City Ag said:This was a nice rhetorical flourish. Man the barricades!!!!Quote:
But continue being a useful idiot and ignoring what is actually transpiring. This isnt about this particular exchange, both sides will tell you that; this is a war for the heart and soul.
The Old Ag attitude is a tough one though if you are going for the heart and soul angle. The folks willing to argue all day and night on internet boards or go out to campus to defend Sully's honor are a very tiny minority. The tens of thousands of alumni will speak for what A&M stands for and that is out of your control. Once you realize that . . . . it all gets a bit easier to swallow. Institutions change and evolve with the times. It is what it is.
And the term "Useful Idiot" means someone supports a cause they don't understand. Can you articulate this cause you think we are supporting unwittingly? BLM, Marxism, Anarchy, Nihilsim??? What is it we are being shills for here?
HighwaySix said:
Just finished watching "D-Day at Point Du Hoc" on Amazon prime. It chronicled the actions of the Rangers 2nd Battalion led by Col James Earl Rudder. What was so obvious to me is that this generation of SJW crybabies will never hold a candle to the real men who laid their lives on the line and those who gave it all to advance the ideals of our constitution and the country that they cherished. So many of our forebears have suffered mightily to make our nation a more perfect Union, each in his/her own imperfect way. Instead of showing gratitude and appreciation for the blessings and opportunities afforded them by previous generations of Americans, they would rather denigrate and slander those who went before them, somehow thinking because they had flaws they are unworthy of remembrance and praise. Remember, these same types of judgmental people hung the one and only perfect person on a cross. Why we even entertain their ludicrous demands is beyond me. We owe them NOTHING!
You do realize that those who actually fought against and defeated the Confederacy forgave Sully and many of the Confederate generals, yet here you are, Pharisee.Escobars army said:HighwaySix said:
Just finished watching "D-Day at Point Du Hoc" on Amazon prime. It chronicled the actions of the Rangers 2nd Battalion led by Col James Earl Rudder. What was so obvious to me is that this generation of SJW crybabies will never hold a candle to the real men who laid their lives on the line and those who gave it all to advance the ideals of our constitution and the country that they cherished. So many of our forebears have suffered mightily to make our nation a more perfect Union, each in his/her own imperfect way. Instead of showing gratitude and appreciation for the blessings and opportunities afforded them by previous generations of Americans, they would rather denigrate and slander those who went before them, somehow thinking because they had flaws they are unworthy of remembrance and praise. Remember, these same types of judgmental people hung the one and only perfect person on a cross. Why we even entertain their ludicrous demands is beyond me. We owe them NOTHING!
You do realize Sully supported a cause designed to crumble that Union you speak so highly of? Oh the irony....
Escobars army said:HighwaySix said:
Just finished watching "D-Day at Point Du Hoc" on Amazon prime. It chronicled the actions of the Rangers 2nd Battalion led by Col James Earl Rudder. What was so obvious to me is that this generation of SJW crybabies will never hold a candle to the real men who laid their lives on the line and those who gave it all to advance the ideals of our constitution and the country that they cherished. So many of our forebears have suffered mightily to make our nation a more perfect Union, each in his/her own imperfect way. Instead of showing gratitude and appreciation for the blessings and opportunities afforded them by previous generations of Americans, they would rather denigrate and slander those who went before them, somehow thinking because they had flaws they are unworthy of remembrance and praise. Remember, these same types of judgmental people hung the one and only perfect person on a cross. Why we even entertain their ludicrous demands is beyond me. We owe them NOTHING!
You do realize Sully supported a cause designed to crumble that Union you speak so highly of? Oh the irony....
infinity ag said:
The old guy clearly said "Blackie".
But then I know almost all black guys say "whitey"
Champ Bailey said:Windy City Ag said:This was a nice rhetorical flourish. Man the barricades!!!!Quote:
But continue being a useful idiot and ignoring what is actually transpiring. This isnt about this particular exchange, both sides will tell you that; this is a war for the heart and soul.
The Old Ag attitude is a tough one though if you are going for the heart and soul angle. The folks willing to argue all day and night on internet boards or go out to campus to defend Sully's honor are a very tiny minority. The tens of thousands of alumni will speak for what A&M stands for and that is out of your control. Once you realize that . . . . it all gets a bit easier to swallow. Institutions change and evolve with the times. It is what it is.
And the term "Useful Idiot" means someone supports a cause they don't understand. Can you articulate this cause you think we are supporting unwittingly? BLM, Marxism, Anarchy, Nihilsim??? What is it we are being shills for here?
Wrong.
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