Texas A&M Football
Sponsored by

2020 SEC Football Just died

40,736 Views | 234 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by Aggies2009
Definitely Not A Cop
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 9:43a, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
Who is wrong? This isn't a good situation. Never has been. Science is fluid nobody had ever seen this virus.


They were wrong about the mortality rate, they were wrong about the infection rate, they were wrong about wearing masks, they now pretend wearing a cloth mask will protect you, they were wrong about how it can infect you, they are wrong about how we shut down, they are wrong to spend state and federal resources shutting down bars and hair salons while at the same time allowing groups of 40-80,000 people gather all across the nation. They were wrong to release prisoners so they wouldn't get coronavirus while at the same time threaten to jail business owners for wanting to keep their employees from filing for unemployment. They were wrong to label anyone who disagrees with any of these conclusion as someone who wanted to kill their grandma. They were wrong to say protesting against masks can cause coronavirus, but protesting for racial issues can't cause coronavirus.
Reply Quote
14
2 edits
planoaggie123
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 9:44a, 6/30/20
AG
they were learning as they go....
Reply Quote
4
sleepybeagle
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
9:48a, 6/30/20
AG
All this being said...Covid deaths are going down in the U.S.

This is direct numbers from the CDC website. Note: The last 2 weeks are adjusted up based on projected total deaths expected to be reported.
Reply Quote
4
1 edit
cavscout96
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 9:55a, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
Love those stupid analogies. Hey you'd be more likely of this or that.
words.

that is not an analogy; it's called statistical analysis
Reply Quote
1
spherical
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 9:56a, 6/30/20
AG
Champ Bailey said:
spherical said:
I mean... I get your frustration but that's sort of how research works right? You keep learning? I don't know what you do for a living, but my line of work is involves me being wrong right up until the moment I'm finally right...

That seems to be a huge problem these days... if anybody says something different today than yesterday, they automatically can't be trusted...


I would say that presenting the incorrect information as gospel is what led to this situation. And labeling anyone who had doubts originally as heretics.

When you marginalize people and then you turn out to be wrong yourself about what you have been saying, you shouldn't be surprised that people lost faith in you. Especially when your ideas have led to 30% of the nation being unemployed.


I agree about the marginalization.

I'm not sure i agree with the gospel statement... But that may be because my family and I augmented what the talking heads were saying with our own research- so for me everything was clearly based on our best knowledge at the time...

I guess I wish we could separate scientists from the talking heads... I think Fauci has done the best he can while trying to serve 2 masters...
Reply Quote
2 edits
Aggies2009
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to spherical • 9:57a, 6/30/20
AG
spherical said:
I mean... I get your frustration but that's sort of how research works right? You keep learning? I don't know what you do for a living, but my line of work is involves me being wrong right up until the moment I'm finally right...

That seems to be a huge problem these days... if anybody says something different today than yesterday, they automatically can't be trusted...
And that's all well and good, but who's to say these "studies" won't be wrong 3 weeks from now? And then they'll just say, "Welp, we were wrong again, but we're right this time!"

It's not a "huge problem these days". The story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf goes back a long time.
Reply Quote
2
Mega Lops
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
9:58a, 6/30/20
AG
If there is no football, our Marxist student athlete goons have no platform to showcase anything.

Not a bad solution.
Reply Quote
1
Aggies2009
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 9:59a, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
Who cares if they lied. This doesn't excuse you to not put a mask on. I bought a few from a lady who makes them.
Again, the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf comes to mind.

"They've lied to you over and over, but nothing excuses you not believing them now!"
Reply Quote
2
spherical
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Aggies2009 • 9:59a, 6/30/20
AG
The only alternative (which I kinda wish we'd done) is take longer to publish findings... but... they were trying to stem the tide... and you can still be wrong...
Reply Quote
cavscout96
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 10:00a, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
I can sit here and tell you the pediatric hospitals are taking adults.
which ones?
Reply Quote
planoaggie123
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Aggies2009 • 10:00a, 6/30/20
AG
Most people in high positions come across "new" challenges every year.

As professionals you have a baseline knowledge for your specific area of expertise.

If i swung and missed as badly as they did on anything at my work I would be unemployed. There are allowances for small mistakes / learning but not these sorts of whole-sale misses...
Reply Quote
3
Aggies2009
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to cavscout96 • 10:00a, 6/30/20
AG
cavscout96 said:
Double Diamond said:
I can sit here and tell you the pediatric hospitals are taking adults.
which ones?
In Houston. He keeps citing that as some big trump card even though they came out and said that less than 30% of those were even COVID patients, and that they didn't mean for it to cause a panic.
Reply Quote
2
1 edit
Aggies2009
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to spherical • 10:02a, 6/30/20
AG
spherical said:
The only alternative (which I kinda wish we'd done) is take longer to publish findings... but... they were trying to stem the tide... and you can still be wrong...
You can.... And fewer and fewer people will believe you the next time you trot out information/studies.

Apparently this is rocket science.
Reply Quote
1
planoaggie123
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Aggies2009 • 10:02a, 6/30/20
AG
PEDIATRIC HOSPITALS???? THE HORROR!!!!

HOW CAN THEY TREAT COVID WITH SMALLER TOOLS AND KIDS TYLENOL????
Reply Quote
4
cavscout96
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 10:04a, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
Houston pediatric hospital now taking adults.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/texas-childrens-hospital-now-taking-adult-patients-coronavirus/story%3fid=71403248
TCH has OFFERED to accept patients. Last time I checked they have not actually taken in any adults.

They HAVE assisted in TESTING.

I'll know for certain tomorrow after I meet with a good friend who happens to be in the system.
Reply Quote
2
spherical
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Aggies2009 • 10:07a, 6/30/20
AG
Aggies2009 said:
spherical said:
The only alternative (which I kinda wish we'd done) is take longer to publish findings... but... they were trying to stem the tide... and you can still be wrong...
You can.... And fewer and fewer people will believe you the next time you trot out information/studies.

Apparently this is rocket science.


Oh I don't believe in rocket science

But seriously... that's how medical and scientific.:.. hell all research works... you're gonna be wrong for a long time until you're right.

Maybe the problem is that it hasn't been clearly presented as work in progress or "based on what we know today"?
Reply Quote
2 edits
TopoTacos
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 10:39a, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
Try and tell college kids to be smart.


Here's what's hilarious: it's not just the college kids. Other countries are starting to be able to meaningfully reopen and among other things play sports (NZ, Germany, South Korea).

On the other hand we now have an exploding case count and states are already having to roll back their reopening efforts. Bottom line: at least wear your ****** mask.
Reply Quote
Aggies2009
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to spherical • 12:02p, 6/30/20
AG
spherical said:
Aggies2009 said:
spherical said:
The only alternative (which I kinda wish we'd done) is take longer to publish findings... but... they were trying to stem the tide... and you can still be wrong...
You can.... And fewer and fewer people will believe you the next time you trot out information/studies.

Apparently this is rocket science.


Oh I don't believe in rocket science

But seriously... that's how medical and scientific.:.. hell all research works... you're gonna be wrong for a long time until you're right.

Maybe the problem is that it hasn't been clearly presented as work in progress or "based on what we know today"?
As I said, even if it was presented as "from what we know", how do you tell people who had their livelihoods ripped from them on your previous mistake that you're "right this time"?

From where I'm at right now, they've been wrong quite a bit. That's dismissed as "it's a work in progress", but that works both ways. Why should I believe a "work in progress" now, knowing that it might be completely wrong when more information comes out next month?

For the record, I wear a mask, I sanitize my hands, I'm very careful about who I see. But I'm definitely sympathetic to those who don't want to listen to "experts"
Reply Quote
3
1 edit
Double Diamond
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
1:15p, 6/30/20
People's lively hoods are being ripped apart because they can't keep a staff well.
Reply Quote
Aggies2009
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 1:23p, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
People's lively hoods are being ripped apart because they can't keep a staff well.
Wrong.

The people's livelihoods were ripped away because businesses were forced to close and in tern lay off staff.
Reply Quote
4
planoaggie123
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 1:32p, 6/30/20
AG
Most people would rather be out of job for 2 weeks while "recovering" vs having their employer close the business for good b/c of a 2 or 3 or 4 month quarantine where they cannot operate....
Reply Quote
5
Double Diamond
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Aggies2009 • 1:53p, 6/30/20
Wrong I know of many around me that shut the doors because of outbreaks.
Reply Quote
Double Diamond
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
1:54p, 6/30/20
Also who is saying shut the doors? Wear a freaking mask.
Reply Quote
planoaggie123
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 2:08p, 6/30/20
AG
Your initial suggestion in this thread would have shut everything down. That would have closed some businesses for good. New Zealand did it with economic impact and yet they are still now starting to see an uptic. I can't imagine they will doa 100% shutdown again...

"My plan would've been a total shutdown in February March at the latest. Ride that till May. I understand the economic cost. New Zealand has people who need money. But they went hard lockdown.

My next idea would be go about it as we did. But go to state legislators and put teeth behind all masks in public buildings. No bars open, restaurants takeout or patio dinging only.

Plan 2 would've worked well when you remove the free for all the Governor allowed."
Reply Quote
1
annie88
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Double Diamond • 3:36p, 6/30/20
AG
Double Diamond said:
Because this country can't deal with normal flu and Covid. Sir. I suggest you talk to hospital workers in Dallas and Houston. It isn't okay.
Reply Quote
5
merch
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
3:48p, 6/30/20
I agree with Aggie2009 here from an economic standpoint. Forced shut down crippled a ton of people.

To avoid more such government action, let's wear masks and not be as stupid as so many in society have been over the last month.

As I noted once before to all those saying Covid isn't as bad as the flu, I call bull. The fact much is unknown makes it scary...and even survivors can have permanent issues. But here is how I know most of you don't believe what you say, if given the choice of getting the flu or Covid there isn't a single person on this thread that would choose Covid (especially if they got flu shot).
Reply Quote
planoaggie123
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to merch • 3:52p, 6/30/20
AG
To me the biggest issue comes from poor leadership / broken political system.

Trump, Fauci, Birks, Adams, etc have all provided conflicting information and personally I believe even lied at times. More honesty from our leaders about lack of knowledge and greater unity would have limited the negative reaction. This is comes from a broken political system. The masks are not in of themselves a big issue but people feel like they have been duped for so many months that they refuse to listen
Reply Quote
1
Double Diamond
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to planoaggie123 • 6:11p, 6/30/20
I understand the impact trying to look at long term
Outcome. Learning to live with this is insane.
Reply Quote
Foxo
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
9:27p, 6/30/20
AG
One thing is for sure .. the good old USA is doing a lousy job of controlling the virus vs almost every other nation.
Reply Quote
Mule
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
9:32p, 6/30/20
AG
Covid 19 mortality estimated mean 20x that of seasonal flu...

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2766121?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=content-shareicons&utm_content=article_engagement&utm_medium=social&utm_term=063020&fbclid=IwAR3_gCac5cqSSXrhjXkfI2PZKfxL9k1fhtO5AClld61ijP1KxLr23O7cpqI#.XvujfW4UUtk.facebook
Texas Aggies
Reply Quote
1
Aginnebraska
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to CoachLB • 9:46p, 6/30/20
AG
CoachLB said:
Did they test positive for antibodies or positive for the active virus? Do they have symptoms? I guess that does not matter. Dr F said last week MLB should not play in Oct. because it is the start of flu season and we MAY have another wave of corona virus. I mean are we going to shutdown sports because of the flu now? I do not want any kid to get sick. But just yesterday the testing was questioned if some of these positive test were real. The official word on this virus changes every week. My wife is a Superintendent of schools and the rules almost have it impossible to have school. I do not have the answer.
There are to date no known cases of re-infection after a patients was confirmed virus as free. There were some instances of "false positive" tests but re-test of those patients confirmed they were still virus free.
Reply Quote
bulverdeaggie93
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Foxo • 10:50p, 6/30/20
AG
no, it means the good ole USA is just testing by far more than anyone else. Other countries have just as many cases, they just don't know it because they don't have a wack liberal media scaring everyone to get tested (symptoms or no symptoms). We could stop testing tomorrow and see our cases go way down.
Reply Quote
spherical
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to bulverdeaggie93 • 7:56a, 7/1/20
AG
test positive rate?
Reply Quote
HTownAg
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Punked Shank • 9:24a, 7/1/20
AG
Punked Shank said:
Don't care if a season is played this year.

How many of those players will die? How many will actually develop more than a cough? How many will be asymptomatic
Chances are:

0 deaths

Rest are asymptomatic
Reply Quote
4
HTownAg
User Profile Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Class of 65 • 9:29a, 7/1/20
AG
BAS65 said:
30 LSU players tested positive according to the Eagle . We done.
I'm twice the age of a college athlete and testing positive does not guarantee you will get sick.

Three weeks ago at work, six people who I was within six feet at some point of all tested positive.

none got sick
none had even a sniffle, cough, nor trace of fever
my whole team was sent home and told to get tested
none of the five of us ever felt sick, had fever
all five of us tested negative
Reply Quote
5
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.