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levypantsEOY said:

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Jarrin' Jay said:

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To each their own, but the vast majority of Aggies not only do not want to play them again, they don't even care.

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This has been proven unequivocally wrong based on numerous polls and, ironically, your lengthy missive about how much you just dont care.

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No, it hasn't. Both our former and current AD have stated multiple times the odds are decidedly against.

I don't really care about youth opinion or polls coming out of Travis county.

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Exactly. BMAs aren't going to allow it.

nbaker2022 said:

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I see where he's coming from. It'd be fun to play them. But there also has to be some logic here. Playing texas would boost their strength of schedule, not ours.

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tu would be a much better game than Sam Houston, Abilene Christian, Kent State, Lamar, Tartleton, UTSA, Nicholls, UMass etc and all the other creampuffs that A&M plays

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nbaker2022 said:

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I see where he's coming from. It'd be fun to play them. But there also has to be some logic here. Playing texas would boost their strength of schedule, not ours.

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tu would be a much better game than Sam Houston, Abilene Christian, Kent State, Lamar, Tartleton, UTSA, Nicholls, UMass etc and all the other creampuffs that A&M plays

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I dont think anyone disagrees that it would be a better game for us than one vs an FCS or G5 opponent. BUT, it would be an infinitely much better game for the sips. There is absolutely zero reason to help our most hated rival, who we know will cheat, use their political clout, media influence, and money to cheat the system to their benefit.

Why on God's green earth would we do that?!

We play better teams and more fun games now

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I see where he's coming from. It'd be fun to play them. But there also has to be some logic here. Playing texas would boost their strength of schedule, not ours.

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tu would be a much better game than Sam Houston, Abilene Christian, Kent State, Lamar, Tartleton, UTSA, Nicholls, UMass etc and all the other creampuffs that A&M plays

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Why stop at playing two Power Five non-conference teams? It'd be REALLY fun to play four. We might as well schedule Clemson and Ohio State every year too.

Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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HTownAg said:

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nbaker2022 said:

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I see where he's coming from. It'd be fun to play them. But there also has to be some logic here. Playing texas would boost their strength of schedule, not ours.

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tu would be a much better game than Sam Houston, Abilene Christian, Kent State, Lamar, Tartleton, UTSA, Nicholls, UMass etc and all the other creampuffs that A&M plays

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Why stop at playing two Power Five non-conference teams? It'd be REALLY fun to play four. We might as well schedule Clemson and Ohio State every year too.

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So tu is in the same realm as Clemson and Ohio State? Got it.

Look weve got the like 50th most difficult strength of schedule this next season. I cannot see how beating the sips would be a detriment to our season.

Losing to them certainly would be a detriment. We get beat up enough playing in the toughest division in college football. Adding another Power 5 matchup is a horrible, emotionally-driven idea devoid of logic.

We're trying to get to the playoffs. Teams aren't rewarded for playing an extra Power 5 team. Wanting to add a second Power 5 matchup, especially against a team that benefits way more than we do by playing the game, is pure selfishness and against our interests. It would wear down our players, resume the "little brother" complex that too many Aggies had for too many years, and (probably 50% of the time) result in an extra loss on the schedule that wasn't necessary.

Are we a better program than we were in the Big 12? Yes. Are we better than them right now? Probably. Do we need to risk an extra loss on our schedule to play a game that doesn't benefit us but does benefit them? Hell no.

How about we add a rotating game vs the service academies? Have a h&h with each of them over a 6 year period, rinse repeat. Do this In addition to the P5 games already on the books. These games would be of great interest to Aggies and we could leave this t.u. crap in the 'sips favorite place, history.

Cullen is welcome to his opinion. As misguided as it is.

levypantsEOY said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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HTownAg said:

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nbaker2022 said:

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I see where he's coming from. It'd be fun to play them. But there also has to be some logic here. Playing texas would boost their strength of schedule, not ours.

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tu would be a much better game than Sam Houston, Abilene Christian, Kent State, Lamar, Tartleton, UTSA, Nicholls, UMass etc and all the other creampuffs that A&M plays

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Why stop at playing two Power Five non-conference teams? It'd be REALLY fun to play four. We might as well schedule Clemson and Ohio State every year too.

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So tu is in the same realm as Clemson and Ohio State? Got it.

Look weve got the like 50th most difficult strength of schedule this next season. I cannot see how beating the sips would be a detriment to our season.

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You don't think we deserve a break after playing the hardest schedule in CFB history last year?

No one is that dumb. I now believe this is a troll.

They didn't "have room" for us on their future sheds and didn't move things around to schedule us, now so fu_k them. Don't care if we ever play them again.....

Helps Sips.

Gilly probably too young to know who the sips are.

Tuck fexas.

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Woke up this morning to these gems:

Looks like y'all have some opposition from the most legendary 12th Man of all-time!

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The problem is that tu doesn't deserve it.

In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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DavidWalker said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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That right there is the ****ing problem with Aggies and the reason we're so stuck in the past mentality wise. There are people who want to make everything a pissing contest with Austin instead of wanting to be great and dominate at everything.

Amen!

This beating dead horse gets old. Texags should have a permanent thread with video of the bad call in the last game played between us by Longhorn Sweatshirt Ref which set tu up for the win. List quotes by arrogant AD and President. ALL THE SELFISHNESS. Trying to appeal to the state government to get involved to make us play them. etc.
New Ags just don't know all of the crap.

It's called making history, and making history isn't done on a forum. We were in the hunt for the national championship, Top 5 rankings during 3 of the 5 seasons I was here, and finished 7th in another. So you might want to ease up on the regional BS you label our teams with. Those years built what you assume is your birthright. Whether A&M EVER plays Texas again, frankly, I couldn't care less. As I said, times change.

I couldn't tell you how many times I heard, growing up, "I don't care if we go 1-10 every year as long as that 1 is tu.......". Yes people actually would say that. A lot.

It's that dangerously small minded mentality I fear a return to if we let them back in. Fisher and Woodward/Bjork have got the right priorities front and center. If we wind up playing them in a bowl game, so be it and let's go kick their ass. But to even CONSIDER letting them back in on a regular basis is just idiocy.

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I couldn't tell you how many times I heard, growing up, "I don't care if we go 1-10 every year as long as that 1 is tu.......". Yes people actually would say that. A lot.

It's that dangerously small minded mentality I fear a return to if we let them back in. Fisher and Woodward/Bjork have got the right priorities front and center. If we wind up playing them in a bowl game, so be it and let's go kick their ass. But to even CONSIDER letting them back in on a regular basis is just idiocy.

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That's what I've been saying. That's why A&M can't ever win **** ... because they're stuck in that mentality.

Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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DavidWalker said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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Terribly disrespectful to the outstanding teams that played for the Aggies in the mid-70's, but more and more par for the course. We were in no way small-time or regional. We brought in both the national audience and sports media. We added a 50% seating capacity to Kyle Field. Whatever the arguments are for continuing the ban on Texas, yours is the absolute worst, tasteless and classless..

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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DavidWalker said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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Terribly disrespectful to the outstanding teams that played for the Aggies in the mid-70's, but more and more par for the course. We were in no way small-time or regional. We brought in both the national audience and sports media. We added a 50% seating capacity to Kyle Field. Whatever the arguments are for continuing the ban on Texas, yours is the absolute worst, tasteless and classless..

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There's no doubt that they laid the foundation for the future and had a great year, but our conference and our mentality back in the day was certainly regional. While beating the Sips at their place was the pinnacle back then, our goals today should be loftier. Hopefully most agree that winning the SEC is better than and more important than playing and beating Texas. I worry that if we play them, too many Aggies will revert to the regional, Sip-centic mentality of the past.

I'm not sure what part of that is tasteless or classless but I'm sorry you feel that way.

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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Wow. What a pitiful measuring stick. No wonder you can't get over the sips. There were four seasons in the 90s better than that.

This is why we need people like Bjork leading us.

[Be respectful. - Staff]

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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Wow. What a pitiful measuring stick. No wonder you can't get over the sips. There were four seasons in the 90s better than that.

This is why we need people like Bjork leading us. If it were up to the classes of 79 and older, we'd have our lips surgically grafted to the sips anus, forever.

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Nope, not a measuring stick; just a starting point for building a winning tradition at a school that never had one, something no teams had been able to successfully sustain beforehand. The 90's were great, as was RC. But they don't erase history. None had the FINISH. There's only one "first." There's only one "only." Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your train of thought with the FACTS.

And again, I don't care. We'll keep the RECORD for as long as Texas and A&M allow us to.

Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Losing to them certainly would be a detriment. We get beat up enough playing in the toughest division in college football. Adding another Power 5 matchup is a horrible, emotionally-driven idea devoid of logic.

We're trying to get to the playoffs. Teams aren't rewarded for playing an extra Power 5 team. Wanting to add a second Power 5 matchup, especially against a team that benefits way more than we do by playing the game, is pure selfishness and against our interests. It would wear down our players, resume the "little brother" complex that too many Aggies had for too many years, and (probably 50% of the time) result in an extra loss on the schedule that wasn't necessary.

Are we a better program than we were in the Big 12? Yes. Are we better than them right now? Probably. Do we need to risk an extra loss on our schedule to play a game that doesn't benefit us but does benefit them? Hell no.

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Losing to them is *supposed* to be a detriment. Just like beating them is *supposed* to be a bigger boost than beating Abilene Christian. It's how football works!! If we can't beat them on the field, we don't deserve the right act like we're the stronger program.

Goro Majima said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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DavidWalker said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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That right there is the ****ing problem with Aggies and the reason we're so stuck in the past mentality wise. There are people who want to make everything a pissing contest with Austin instead of wanting to be great and dominate at everything.

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Trust me, we want to be great at everything, but we're also realistic. One of those is a realistic goal, one isn't. We haven't won a championship in one of the 3 major sports in over 80 years. We haven't won our conference in football in over 20 years. But now we're fixin' to dominate everything?? If your only goal is to win the national championship & nothing else matters, well you're probably pretty disappointed every season. Heck, maybe we win one in your lifetime? Even then, 1 exhilarating season, 89 disappointing ones based on that metric.

Having a big rivalry game means your season is still meaningful during Week 12, even if you aren't contending for a title.

Why do y'all think Florida still plays FSU?? Georgia plays Georgia Tech?? Clemson plays USCe?? You could ask those schools the same question: "What do you gain???" Their answer is simple. It's football & let's go beat **** out of our rival!!

#Mke said:

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Goro Majima said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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DavidWalker said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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That right there is the ****ing problem with Aggies and the reason we're so stuck in the past mentality wise. There are people who want to make everything a pissing contest with Austin instead of wanting to be great and dominate at everything.

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Trust me, we want to be great at everything, but we're also realistic. One of those is a realistic goal, one isn't. We haven't won a championship in one of the 3 major sports in over 80 years. We haven't won our conference in football in over 20 years. But now we're fixin' to dominate everything?? If your only goal is to win the national championship & nothing else matters, well you're probably pretty disappointed every season. Heck, maybe we win one in your lifetime? Even then, 1 exhilarating season, 89 disappointing ones based on that metric.

Having a big rivalry game means your season is still meaningful during Week 12, even if you aren't contending for a title.

Why do y'all think Florida still plays FSU?? Georgia plays Georgia Tech?? Clemson plays USCe?? You could ask those schools the same question: "What do you gain???" Their answer is simple. It's football & let's go beat **** out of our rival!!

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I heard from them until my ears bled: "**** isn't our rival, OU is".

In reality, OU is their daddy on the field.

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Losing to them certainly would be a detriment. We get beat up enough playing in the toughest division in college football. Adding another Power 5 matchup is a horrible, emotionally-driven idea devoid of logic.

We're trying to get to the playoffs. Teams aren't rewarded for playing an extra Power 5 team. Wanting to add a second Power 5 matchup, especially against a team that benefits way more than we do by playing the game, is pure selfishness and against our interests. It would wear down our players, resume the "little brother" complex that too many Aggies had for too many years, and (probably 50% of the time) result in an extra loss on the schedule that wasn't necessary.

Are we a better program than we were in the Big 12? Yes. Are we better than them right now? Probably. Do we need to risk an extra loss on our schedule to play a game that doesn't benefit us but does benefit them? Hell no.

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Losing to them is *supposed* to be a detriment. Just like beating them is *supposed* to be a bigger boost than beating Abilene Christian. It's how football works!! If we can't beat them on the field, we don't deserve the right act like we're the stronger program.

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Wrong. By guaranteeing we go 3-1 in non-conf every year, you are effectively guaranteed to go bowling each year. Going bowling every year, while you may think a paltry minimum standard, is the clearest indicator of continued strength of a football program. It also assists in coach retention, recruiting continuity, financial strength, alumni financial giving, etc.

Your desire to play the toughest schedule in America, every year, is literally the dumbest idea in college football history.

#Mke said:

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Goro Majima said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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DavidWalker said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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That right there is the ****ing problem with Aggies and the reason we're so stuck in the past mentality wise. There are people who want to make everything a pissing contest with Austin instead of wanting to be great and dominate at everything.

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Trust me, we want to be great at everything, but we're also realistic. One of those is a realistic goal, one isn't. We haven't won a championship in one of the 3 major sports in over 80 years. We haven't won our conference in football in over 20 years. But now we're fixin' to dominate everything?? If your only goal is to win the national championship & nothing else matters, well you're probably pretty disappointed every season. Heck, maybe we win one in your lifetime? Even then, 1 exhilarating season, 89 disappointing ones based on that metric.

Having a big rivalry game means your season is still meaningful during Week 12, even if you aren't contending for a title.

Why do y'all think Florida still plays FSU?? Georgia plays Georgia Tech?? Clemson plays USCe?? You could ask those schools the same question: "What do you gain???" Their answer is simple. It's football & let's go beat **** out of our rival!!

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I never said we were "fixin" to dominate.

We should demand excellence and WANT to dominate. In everything.

Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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In '76 we beat the Texas Longhorns in Austin, won our bowl game, and finished in the Top 10 for the only time in the history of Aggie football. It's fine with me that the '76 team holds this record forever.

It was the second win inside Memorial Stadium in its 55-year history, the first in 20 years. It was the first time that A&M had ever beaten Texas in Austin in a televised game (ABC). There were tears of joy everywhere for old Ags who thought they'd never see the day. Next to '39, '85, '87 and 2012, it was about the best finish that Aggie football has ever known. But times change. I don't know who you hang your bragging rights on now, LSU? #BTHOtu

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That was a small-time regional school with small-time regional goals. Today we can hang our bragging rights on trying to be the best team in the best division in football. That seems more attractive than being obsessed with beating one school that we've moved past.

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Terribly disrespectful to the outstanding teams that played for the Aggies in the mid-70's, but more and more par for the course. We were in no way small-time or regional. We brought in both the national audience and sports media. We added a 50% seating capacity to Kyle Field. Whatever the arguments are for continuing the ban on Texas, yours is the absolute worst, tasteless and classless..

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There's no doubt that they laid the foundation for the future and had a great year, but our conference and our mentality back in the day was certainly regional. While beating the Sips at their place was the pinnacle back then, our goals today should be loftier. Hopefully most agree that winning the SEC is better than and more important than playing and beating Texas. I worry that if we play them, too many Aggies will revert to the regional, Sip-centic mentality of the past.

I'm not sure what part of that is tasteless or classless but I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Tell me what's "small time" or "regional" about a program that had ZERO current non-Power 5 teams on its non-conference schedules, schedules that included games at LSU, Washington, Clemson, Kansas, Illinois, Michigan, etc, with home games against Ole Miss, K-State, and Boston College, and bowl games against Florida and Southern Cal, and still managed to become the first Aggie football teams to win 36 games over 4 years.

Yes, your comment is highly disrespectful and derogatory to our mid-70's teams, the foundation of modern Aggie football, and is a terribly incorrect assertion to be made on a public forum. Perhaps, KNOW your Aggie football history or refrain from commenting.

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Losing to them certainly would be a detriment. We get beat up enough playing in the toughest division in college football. Adding another Power 5 matchup is a horrible, emotionally-driven idea devoid of logic.

We're trying to get to the playoffs. Teams aren't rewarded for playing an extra Power 5 team. Wanting to add a second Power 5 matchup, especially against a team that benefits way more than we do by playing the game, is pure selfishness and against our interests. It would wear down our players, resume the "little brother" complex that too many Aggies had for too many years, and (probably 50% of the time) result in an extra loss on the schedule that wasn't necessary.

Are we a better program than we were in the Big 12? Yes. Are we better than them right now? Probably. Do we need to risk an extra loss on our schedule to play a game that doesn't benefit us but does benefit them? Hell no.

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Losing to them is *supposed* to be a detriment. Just like beating them is *supposed* to be a bigger boost than beating Abilene Christian. It's how football works!! If we can't beat them on the field, we don't deserve the right act like we're the stronger program.

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Wrong. By guaranteeing we go 3-1 in non-conf every year, you are effectively guaranteed to go bowling each year. Going bowling every year, while you may think a paltry minimum standard, is the clearest indicator of continued strength of a football program. It also assists in coach retention, recruiting continuity, financial strength, alumni financial giving, etc.

Your desire to play the toughest schedule in America, every year, is literally the dumbest idea in college football history.

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Y'all can't make up your minds, does Texas suck or are they an automatic Loss?? I personally don't feel validated going 8-5 on the backs of 3 cupcake wins.

I think Texas is overrated, and that A&M is about to become the premiere flagship university in TX both academically and athletically very soon. The SEC move was a no-brainer. I believe we would have dominated the Horns in the 2010s non-conference and we would continue to do so in the 2020s and beyond. By beating them on the field, it would accelerate our growth & rise via recruiting. It's easier to beat them than win the SEC West, so by beating them & the recruiting boost that comes with it, we can climb the SEC West mountain even faster.

I'm not saying anything derogatory against those teams, but A&M, our conference, how we gauged success, and our expectations were obviously different in the 70s compared to the modern era of Jimbo Fisher at the helm.

There's no denying that the SWC was weak. If it wasn't, then the first place in conference Aggies wouldn't have finished outside the top 5 (and one outside the top 10) two years in a row in the mid-70s. It's awesome that they had the success that they did and laid the foundation for bigger things down the road. Hopefully we're now aiming a little higher than finishing the season 12th in the polls and just beating Texas.

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Y'all can't make up your minds, does Texas suck or are they an automatic Loss?? I personally don't feel validated going 8-5 on the backs of 3 cupcake wins.

I think Texas is overrated, and that A&M is about to become the premiere flagship university in TX both academically and athletically very soon. The SEC move was a no-brainer. I believe we would have dominated the Horns in the 2010s non-conference and we would continue to do so in the 2020s and beyond. By beating them on the field, it would accelerate our growth & rise via recruiting. It's easier to beat them than win the SEC West, so by beating them & the recruiting boost that comes with it, we can climb the SEC West mountain even faster.

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They are neither an automatic win or loss. They'll win sometimes. Probably 50% of the time.

Even if we win at a higher rate, it isn't worth it. Playing two Power 5 opponents (them and someone else) will absolutely beat up our team more than playing just one Power 5 opponent. Throw a a rivalry game in there and the team is beat up not just physically but emotionally.

Playing Texas does nothing towards helping us win a championship - they aren't in our conference and the Playoff Committee doesn't penalize you for playing creampuff OOC schools. What it will do, as our second Power 5 game, is give us a lesser shot of winning all of our SEC games. There's no denying that players will be more beat up after playing Texas vs. playing ACU. Fatigue adds up throughout the season. I'd rather not jeopardize our SEC title hopes just so that we can foolishly play an extra, emotional Power 5 matchup.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who disagrees cares more about playing Texas than winning. I'm not on board with that. Would the game be fun? Sure. Does it help them and hurt us? Yes. Winning the SEC would be way more fun than playing the sips.

Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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I'm not saying anything derogatory against those teams, but A&M, our conference, how we gauged success, and our expectations were obviously different in the 70s compared to the modern era of Jimbo Fisher at the helm.

There's no denying that the SWC was weak. If it wasn't, then the first place in conference Aggies wouldn't have finished outside the top 5 (and one outside the top 10) two years in a row in the mid-70s. It's awesome that they had the success that they did and laid the foundation for bigger things down the road. Hopefully we're now aiming a little higher than finishing the season 12th in the polls and just beating Texas.

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I love being in the SEC (see my post above yours), & it was 100% a good move. The environment and vision of the league is stellar.

But honestly I would be a happier football fan winning the SWC 30-40% of the time than winning the SEC once or twice (maybe?) every 20 years.

Now going nationally, there is only one national champion every season. The odds simply make that goal extremely hard to achieve. I would prefer a series of smaller, but more frequent accomplishments, rather than putting all my efforts on a 20-year struggle (or 80-year struggle) for one national championship trophy in my lifetime.

With that being said, I love saturdays in the South, & winning a NC should be the goal. Just don't see why we can't play SEC football, strive for national championships, and pound the 'Sips into the ground at the same time!

#Mke said:

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With that being said, I love saturdays in the South, & winning a NC should be the goal. Just don't see why we can't play SEC football, strive for national championships, and pound the 'Sips into the ground at the same time!

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Because it's more fun to go to Clemson than to Austin and we're not going to do both.