People need to relax the eff up...it really isn't happening anytime soon...and that's a good thing. This will die off until their next push...probably sometime in summer.

Mr Cullen can say whatever he wants...it isn't like his opinion matters any more than anyone else's here (even if he was a player)

Clearly tu has done the calculus and needs this game to resume. They are in the middle of a campaign and working hard. However they can't seem to make up their mind what will work best...goading, saying how supposedly "important" the game is or insulting us by saying crap like "we will schedule programs that won in the modern era" ...a clear dig. DelConte is a liar, a slimeball and a perfect representative of that shole. Congrats to tu for picking a dick befitting their typical style!

Hermensa AGAIN threw bu and tt and tcu under the bus with his idiotic "we don't play a rival at home ever" line...what a tone deaf idiot.

Clearly bjork is savvy and not falling for it...it is, however, impressive how many Ags feel the need to enter into a contract with those people. That nasty shade of orange should never be seen at Kyle.

You younger Ags have no idea of how deep the deck is stacked against us in this game. The refs will NEVER allow opponents to beat tu in a close game.

'11 The phantom "roughing" flag
'01 The Chris Simms lateral for TD called back
Vince Young knee down vs USC
Fake PI in 2005 Kansas game
Fumble return vs ISU about 5 years ago
OkState goal line stand about 6 years ago
The multiple calls vs Baylor two years ago

I'm sure there are tons more. Those are just off the top of my head. THEY ARE NOT OUR PROBLEM ANYMORE.

Rely on the knowledge of those with more experience

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He never played against them so his opinion as a player has limited relevance.

And one of the big reasons it's being pushed is because the sips have a terrible schedule and want a sellout game.

Meanwhile we have plenty of big matchups every year.

We don't need the game on the schedule for the sake of ticket sales or financials.

When we were planning to leave the B12 they said we're not welcome on their schedule anymore and they tried multiple ways to block us.

A lot of us still remember that. 8 years down, 92 to go.

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Did you play against Texas as a player?

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The whole damn point of this thread was to bludgeon those of us who don't want to play them with "BUT 12TH MAN SAID WE SHOULD".

I was very polite and straightforward but I guess I didn't make it clear. I will clarify for those who think it's some gotcha that I (and 99.99% of Aggies) weren't on the field against the sips:

If a player wants the game to come back, he has to have played them for that opinion to matter AS A PLAYER. Was he on the field? Did he see the calls made? Did he deal with the media and the recruitniks who slobber all over the sips? No? Then I'll repeat myself: "his opinion as a player has limited relevance".

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For the record, every single former player I have talked to or heard speak on it wants to play TU again. Former and current. Players want to play, and win.

In kind of an "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" way, if the sips were like pretty much every other program, then there would be no issue in playing them again. But the issue is, as has been well documented, they do everything they can to tilt the field in their favor. There are too many examples of this to just ignore. Two that directly involve A&M - the last game in 2011: the PI that wasn't that allowed their drive to continue, and way back in 1963 (before my time) when an Ag scored a TD but the score was disallowed and the sips won a close one (and I believe that year was their first NC).

These clowns do no consider us an equal. They do not play fair. They are untrustworthy. They are an overly entitled bunch who claims to be better than they actually are. In a perfect world, A&M will play for a win several national championships while sippy continues to lose games against the likes of Kansas or Iowa State. In a slightly less perfect world, sippy will actually win that woeful conference while A&M wins the SEC, and then A&M destroys sippy in a playoff game. HELL NO to any regular season match with those clowns any time soon. Maybe about the time my now 14-year-old daughter is welcoming her first GRANDCHILD into the world, and maybe not even then.

And none of this reflects on my opinion of Jimbo Fisher. I do believe that Jimbo would win any match up with that slimeball Herman. And not only win, but blow them out. We are an upper-tier SEC team with more talent than sippy has across the board. We would win that game far more times than not, if given a level playing field. But Jimbo is not immune to bullcrap officiating. Anyone remember the 2018 Clemson game?

Okay so your argument is that if we were to play the sips again, they would invariably somehow bribe the officials to turn the game to their favor?

Listen to yourselves.

never again

Class of '91. Never schedule them again.

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Okay so your argument is that if we were to play the sips again, they would invariably somehow bribe the officials to turn the game to their favor?

Listen to yourselves.

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Well, you go right ahead and keep your head in the sand despite all the evidence of just what they would invariably do.

Class of '89, I never experienced a loss to those assclowns, but I have seen more than my share of clear favoritism toward them. Never again.

Old Ag. Play'em.

Y'all act like somehow by playing Texas it will be automatic loss because the refs will somehow find a way to throw the game.

1.) Let's beat 'em so badly the "biased refs" can't do anything about it!!!
2.) Maybe use neutral refs from outside the Big 12 / SEC ??? *lightbulb*
------ Part of the 2011 call is on us for allowing that silly Sip ref to officiate in the first place.
3.) Baylor/TT/TCU damn near beat the Horns/"Refs" every season, it's not impossible!!
4.) My Lord, y'all make a lot of excuses. Y'all just whine, whine, whine. Grow a pear and let the boys kick 'sip ***

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And that's why Cullen gets paid to play the game and not to organize the game. He thinks he knows the situation, but in reality, he has no perspective and therefore, no clue. In other words, he was dumb enough to swallow the bait.

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He has no clue but Bonfire1996 knows all?

I think its largely a generational issue. The sad fact is the olds dont want to play the sips because they are still insecure from playing second fiddle for ten decades.
The new kids dont have that fear. They want to win and beat the clowns just down the highway.

B-b-b-but we dont want to help their schedule!! What kind of loser talk is that?! We are only fan base in America with such a vocal opposition to playing another team.

Play the game. Beat them where it hurts the most- ON THE FIELD.

Everything else is crybaby pizza.

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Why do you say "we"? You are a sip. We Aggies don't care what you sips want.

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Okay so your argument is that if we were to play the sips again, they would invariably somehow bribe the officials to turn the game to their favor?

Listen to yourselves.

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Listen to the sip troll

Levy is just echoing what Del Conte wants and worshipping the orange steer.

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Y'all act like somehow by playing Texas it will be automatic loss because the refs will somehow find a way to throw the game.

1.) Let's beat 'em so badly the "biased refs" can't do anything about it!!!
2.) Maybe use neutral refs from outside the Big 12 / SEC ??? *lightbulb*
------ Part of the 2011 call is on us for allowing that silly Sip ref to officiate in the first place.
3.) Baylor/TT/TCU damn near beat the Horns/"Refs" every season, it's not impossible!!
4.) My Lord, y'all make a lot of excuses. Y'all just whine, whine, whine. Grow a pear and let the boys kick 'sip ***

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No one is SCARED to play them. Those against bringing the game back are saying that playing the game isn't in our best interest, for many reasons. One of the reasons is that the sips only play poker with a stacked deck and a dealer in their pocket just in case. ITS HOW THEY OPERATE.

We're in a better place without them. Cant say the same for them. Leave em alone. Let em die a slow painful death

My bad- you have totally exposed my sip trollery with me echoing what Gillaspia and 90% of the student body want.

Now that youve uncovered me, are you going to confront/ expose Cullen for being a sip? If so, please have someone video that exchange. Maybe after you emerge from traction you can set up a tent on campus to interrogate the obvious undergrad sip spy population. You and other never-again zoo boomers can pass around a megaphone explaining how wrong everyone else is.

I fear what Texas does to us when we play them. We fall back to highway 6 goes both ways and 2 percenter name calling. All of the worst behavior shows up when rabid fans start foaming at the mouth. See this thread for repeated examples.

Waiting longer will not hurt us. Apparently it is killing them. For that reason alone: we should wait longer.

Arguing about this **** is pointless.

It's not happening anytime soon unless it's in a NY6 bowl or something like that. The end.

Unfathomable to me how we have wrested away the upper hand from those losers by separating ourselves, and you dildos can't wait to give it right back to them. They have been begging for this game for 5 years for a reason, and it damn sure isn't because it's in OUR best interest. Are you seriously too ignorant to see that? Obviously your prime motivation is to run straight over to orange bloods or whatever sip site you're obsessed with, where you're probably spending half your time right now anyway, and rag on them. Because there really is no rational, logical motivation to bring this back. None. I didn't glean any huge gloating satisfaction when we were reeling off all those wins against them because I do my damndest never to associate with those arrogant d*ckheads in the first place. Our brand vs theirs is stronger than its ever been. But no, we don't want THAT......I bet y'all are the kind who would just let a rattler bite you in the leg because you didn't wanna hurt the poor little fella......

Plus, I don't know if you guys have realized this, but the way to the playoffs is by sheer win total. BDF proves this every year. They don't give a damn about SOS. Think there's a reason Bama, LSU, OU etc only play one P5 OOC every season? We have our hands more than full with the SECW as it is. Numbers in the W column are the only thing that matters to the powers that be. Why you think Bjork would risk sacrificing that just so you can talk sh to your coworkers/ poor little half ******ed brother in law etc is beyond me. Guess that's more important than getting to the playoffs. We're gaining ground. Heading toward the precipice of getting there. And y'all are ready to sacrifice it over something so utterly stupid.......

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My bad- you have totally exposed my sip trollery with me echoing what Gillaspia and 90% of the student body want.

Now that youve uncovered me, are you going to confront/ expose Cullen for being a sip? If so, please have someone video that exchange. Maybe after you emerge from traction you can set up a tent on campus to interrogate the obvious undergrad sip spy population. You and other never-again zoo boomers can pass around a megaphone explaining how wrong everyone else is.

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You have been a sip troll since you have posted on this site. Nothing personal, but I do wonder how a grown man would take the time and effort to pretend to be from A&M. Think man, is this how you want to spend your time? Really?

Cullen isn't a sip, he just doesn't have the experience or knowledge to understand the issues. Love the guy, great player, but that's where his experience ends.

For the folks who favor resuming....Historically, (last 30 or 40 or 50 years), we lose every other game we play the sips. Is it worth it to have one more loss every other year (on average), just to play the sips? Say we have the horses, have a great year (maybe 1 conf loss).

We beat Bama, have a shot at CFP, but we scheduled tu and they were really good that year. Now with 2 losses we are out and tu is in. They beat OU and the rest of a weak B12, then beat SEC Aggies, they go... we stay home. If my math and history are correct, we probably lose an opportunity for CFP every other season, just by scheduling the sips.

Why sign up for that?

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For the folks who favor resuming....Historically, (last 30 or 40 or 50 years), we lose every other game we play the sips. Is it worth it to have one more loss every other year (on average), just to play the sips? Say we have the horses, have a great year (maybe 1 conf loss).

We beat Bama, have a shot at CFP, but we scheduled tu and they were really good that year. Now with 2 losses we are out and tu is in. They beat OU and the rest of a weak B12, then beat SEC Aggies, they go... we stay home. If my math and history are correct, we probably lose an opportunity for CFP every other season, just by scheduling the sips.

Why sign up for that?

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This hook is too shiny. tu troll.

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In kind of an "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" way, if the sips were like pretty much every other program, then there would be no issue in playing them again. But the issue is, as has been well documented, they do everything they can to tilt the field in their favor. There are too many examples of this to just ignore. Two that directly involve A&M - the last game in 2011: the PI that wasn't that allowed their drive to continue, and way back in 1963 (before my time) when an Ag scored a TD but the score was disallowed and the sips won a close one (and I believe that year was their first NC).

These clowns do no consider us an equal. They do not play fair. They are untrustworthy. They are an overly entitled bunch who claims to be better than they actually are. In a perfect world, A&M will play for a win several national championships while sippy continues to lose games against the likes of Kansas or Iowa State. In a slightly less perfect world, sippy will actually win that woeful conference while A&M wins the SEC, and then A&M destroys sippy in a playoff game. HELL NO to any regular season match with those clowns any time soon. Maybe about the time my now 14-year-old daughter is welcoming her first GRANDCHILD into the world, and maybe not even then.

And none of this reflects on my opinion of Jimbo Fisher. I do believe that Jimbo would win any match up with that slimeball Herman. And not only win, but blow them out. We are an upper-tier SEC team with more talent than sippy has across the board. We would win that game far more times than not, if given a level playing field. But Jimbo is not immune to bullcrap officiating. Anyone remember the 2018 Clemson game?

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So two bad calls in 60 years?
Also, we aren't an upper tier SEC team. We're closer to Mississippi and MSST than we are to Bama, Auburn , and LSU. We just have a nicer stadium.

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So two bad calls in 60 years?

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You just showed your youth and ignorance right there.

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In kind of an "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" way, if the sips were like pretty much every other program, then there would be no issue in playing them again. But the issue is, as has been well documented, they do everything they can to tilt the field in their favor. There are too many examples of this to just ignore. Two that directly involve A&M - the last game in 2011: the PI that wasn't that allowed their drive to continue, and way back in 1963 (before my time) when an Ag scored a TD but the score was disallowed and the sips won a close one (and I believe that year was their first NC).

These clowns do no consider us an equal. They do not play fair. They are untrustworthy. They are an overly entitled bunch who claims to be better than they actually are. In a perfect world, A&M will play for a win several national championships while sippy continues to lose games against the likes of Kansas or Iowa State. In a slightly less perfect world, sippy will actually win that woeful conference while A&M wins the SEC, and then A&M destroys sippy in a playoff game. HELL NO to any regular season match with those clowns any time soon. Maybe about the time my now 14-year-old daughter is welcoming her first GRANDCHILD into the world, and maybe not even then.

And none of this reflects on my opinion of Jimbo Fisher. I do believe that Jimbo would win any match up with that slimeball Herman. And not only win, but blow them out. We are an upper-tier SEC team with more talent than sippy has across the board. We would win that game far more times than not, if given a level playing field. But Jimbo is not immune to bullcrap officiating. Anyone remember the 2018 Clemson game?

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So two bad calls in 60 years?
Also, we aren't an upper tier SEC team. We're closer to Mississippi and MSST than we are to Bama, Auburn , and LSU. We just have a nicer stadium.

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Two calls that I could come up with right when I was typing. If you want to find more, I'm sure that Google thing can help you.

I don't understand Aggies that constantly rag on their own team. Go ahead, call Jimbo and tell him we are not an upper tier program. No where did I state that we were equivalent to Alabama, LSU, or Auburn, well, I'd say we are right there with Auburn and Florida with Alabama, LSU, and Georgia (who the conference referees screwed us last November in that game) the clear top-most tier of the conference.

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In kind of an "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" way, if the sips were like pretty much every other program, then there would be no issue in playing them again. But the issue is, as has been well documented, they do everything they can to tilt the field in their favor. There are too many examples of this to just ignore. Two that directly involve A&M - the last game in 2011: the PI that wasn't that allowed their drive to continue, and way back in 1963 (before my time) when an Ag scored a TD but the score was disallowed and the sips won a close one (and I believe that year was their first NC).

These clowns do no consider us an equal. They do not play fair. They are untrustworthy. They are an overly entitled bunch who claims to be better than they actually are. In a perfect world, A&M will play for a win several national championships while sippy continues to lose games against the likes of Kansas or Iowa State. In a slightly less perfect world, sippy will actually win that woeful conference while A&M wins the SEC, and then A&M destroys sippy in a playoff game. HELL NO to any regular season match with those clowns any time soon. Maybe about the time my now 14-year-old daughter is welcoming her first GRANDCHILD into the world, and maybe not even then.

And none of this reflects on my opinion of Jimbo Fisher. I do believe that Jimbo would win any match up with that slimeball Herman. And not only win, but blow them out. We are an upper-tier SEC team with more talent than sippy has across the board. We would win that game far more times than not, if given a level playing field. But Jimbo is not immune to bullcrap officiating. Anyone remember the 2018 Clemson game?

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So two bad calls in 60 years?
Also, we aren't an upper tier SEC team. We're closer to Mississippi and MSST than we are to Bama, Auburn , and LSU. We just have a nicer stadium.

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Two calls that I could come up with right when I was typing. If you want to find more, I'm sure that Google thing can help you.

I don't understand Aggies that constantly rag on their own team. Go ahead, call Jimbo and tell him we are not an upper tier program. No where did I state that we were equivalent to Alabama, LSU, or Auburn, well, I'd say we are right there with Auburn and Florida with Alabama, LSU, and Georgia (who the conference referees screwed us last November in that game) the clear top-most tier of the conference.

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Maybe we should also refuse to play Georgia because we got screwed by the refs in that game. I'm going to add LSU to that list as well because of them being offside in 2014. Auburn needs to be on there as well because of the 2013 horse collar on Johnny, and on the play in 2015 that Ricky got ejected Kyler got hit while sliding but no penalty for that. Of course you can't forget Alabama this year with an illegal block in the back for a touchdown when we had just gotten called for something similar, or Alabama 2016 when Speedy Noil got laid out with targeting on a kickoff and the refs did nothing. We're going to have to add Clemson to the list as well for 2018 when they had a blatant push off offensive pass interference on a drive they scored on when the penalty could have ended the drive if it had been called. Of course I am going to have to throw in the pylon, the debacle that happened this year when the refs screwed up the ruling of the safety because of "illegal substitution", and the fact that Clemson should have been flagged for roughing the passer for a hit below the knees on the previous play. 2017 we could have beaten Wake Forest in the bowl game if the refs called PI on the final drive. 2017 also had Mond's 90 yard touchdown run against Arkansas that was ruled dead because of an inadvertent whistle and resulted in 3 points instead of 7. We had to go to overtime that game when we should of had a 4 point lead.

So for our no-play team list we have:

• longhorns
• Georgia
• LSU
• Auburn
• Alabama
• Clemson
• Wake Forest
• Arkansas

I haven't been able to come up with a good reason not to play Ole Miss or Mississippi State yet, but I'm sure a one of you who's more motivated than me can find some good reasons. I don't really feel the need to put South Carolina on our no-play list since we beat them every year. Maybe if they win a game I will need to start looking for reasons to move them to my list.

If anyone out there knows of other teams I missed that we should refuse to play because of a bad call please let me know.

Agreed. What's funny is EVERY SEC team thinks the refs are Bama homers giving them preferential treatment. Go to SECrant and ask folks over there. Give it 50 years and I guarantee there will be plenty of Ags that grow a similar hate for Bama's puppets. What's even funnier is we could easily rectify that problem by requiring neutral refs (ie from the Big Ten), so the past is really irrelevant as a concern for the future.

The swell of articles has been flattened...much like Covid...early July-ish comes the next wave (files saved, date left blank).

I hope that slimeball DelConte comes up with a more coherent argument...this latest one was weaker than his first attempt and all over the place. Made him look no better than some ****ter-head

For me, leaving the Big 12 and tu behind was an important step in getting out of "big brother's" shadow. It was long overdue, and has been great for A&M as an institution.

But I've truly moved on, and I read these threads because there are no sports at all on and I am bored out of my mind.

Sometime, way down the road when everyone can admit and agree that the brothers are either equal or we have surpassed the aging older brother, resume the game if you want. But I suspect it will be meaningless at that point.

I almost feel sorry for them now. The OU game is the only one on their conference schedule that generates any excitement. Whereas we have a bunch of great conference games every year!

Cullen you really did not score the TD . The refs gave it to you so just go away.

The sips better be glad we went to the SEC because we would've owned them every year since 2012 so contrary to Cullen we aren't scared we just don't need them and most of us remember deloss Dodd's derogatory comments about never playing us again

Yeah, whatever.

KG, you can "walk-on" outta here with this garbage.