Regarding football, I do not care what the state of Texas deserves.

I care what Texas A&M deserves.

That means no more ****ty business partners looking to screw us over (with their NCAA influence, refs & media mouthpieces) at every turn. No thanks. Cullen is too young to have any perspective here.

This goes back 100 years. The hell with the sips. I have not desire to play them in anything and for sure not football. I saw it first hand when I was in high school the lies, deceit, cheating that the sips would do to compete against many opponents not only the AGs.

That is why I decided not to go to Austin and I did have financial assistance in the form of a scholarship. I chose the Ags.

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Bonfire1996 said:

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And that's why Cullen gets paid to play the game and not to organize the game. He thinks he knows the situation, but in reality, he has no perspective and therefore, no clue. In other words, he was dumb enough to swallow the bait.

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He has no clue but Bonfire1996 knows all?

I think its largely a generational issue. The sad fact is the olds dont want to play the sips because they are still insecure from playing second fiddle for ten decades.
The new kids dont have that fear. They want to win and beat the clowns just down the highway.

B-b-b-but we dont want to help their schedule!! What kind of loser talk is that?! We are only fan base in America with such a vocal opposition to playing another team.

Play the game. Beat them where it hurts the most- ON THE FIELD.

Everything else is crybaby pizza.

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You must be new here. But that's OK. Yes, when it comes to the sips, I do know all. My roommate and bonfire brother from A&M was the sip chancellor's son. That's right. I was in the Bauer House Mansion the weekend after the TDay game in 2017 when Mackovic was fired and Mack Brown was hired. I was there when Joe Jamail, Red Mc Combs, Deloss Dodds, and other wealthy Texas alums spent the weekend hunkered down and doing what was best for Texas. I watched the list go from 10 to 5 to 1. I watched as Bill Harris of Stanford was crossed off the list. I watched as Gary Barnett of Northwestern was crossed off the list. And others. I witnessed them talk about their motivations, their arrogance, etc. I listened and I learned.

You probably think the game between our schools has historically been a fair fight. You probably think that all it takes to win that game is to show up on gameday and play better. By defining the game of football, you would be correct. But that doesn't define what the sips do to ensure victory, in every sport.

Do you know who Randy Chrystal and John Bible are? Both were referees for decades in the SWC and the Big 12. They were also umpires in the Spring, and both lived in Austin. So what do you know, both go the pleasure of umpiring a lot of Tuesday afternoon games at the Disch when the sips played. They also got included in the rotation for weekend series. But their real money maker was Tuesday games. Get to drive to the field, collect a check, and be home before dark. No a bad gig if you can get it. Unfortunately for Randy, he got the pleasure of calling balls and strikes for one Roger Clemons for a couple games. Turns out, Roger didn't like his strike zone, and Roger demanded that Randy Chrystal, and his crew including John Bible, no longer be allowed to umpire games at Disch Faulk field. Should a player have that ability? Should a coach have that ability? Should an AD have that ability? Hell no, but Roger Clemons had that power. And Roger Clemons turned off the hometown revenue for Randy Chrystal and John Bible.

All of a sudden, a few weekends later, Randy Chrystal and John Bible were seen back in the Disch Faulk rotation. How'd they get there? By promising to be better. And what is better? Well, you get the picture. Do you think Randy Chrystal and John Bible, who reffed and umped the next two decades of baseball and football for the Sips and Texas A&M ever forgot that? Do you think a man's personal cash flow motivations might trump their integrity every now and then? Because in the early 1980s in Austin, Randy Chrystal and John Bible allowed their integrity to be compromised.

That is but an example of how the sips wield power, off the field. And you are nave enough to think you can jump onto the field with them and play a fair game? I bet you go to Vegas thinking you can beat the house at BlackJack too. You take those 44% odds, or whatever they are, and you love to play. So do I, but I'm not dumb enough to think I'm better than the house. The rules are designed to have the house win, and for over 100 years, the rules were designed to have the sips win. I've had enough, many others have had enough, but Cullen Gilaspia hasn't experienced it, and obviously neither have you.

Finally, did you know the sip referee who threw the flag on Hunter to extend the Case McCoy drive was a die hoard longhorn fan who was a texags user committed to defending the sips, at all costs, on the old rivalries board? How do you think he got assigned to that game? Are you that unaware?

levypantsEOY said:

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Bonfire1996 said:

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And that's why Cullen gets paid to play the game and not to organize the game. He thinks he knows the situation, but in reality, he has no perspective and therefore, no clue. In other words, he was dumb enough to swallow the bait.

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He has no clue but Bonfire1996 knows all?

I think its largely a generational issue. The sad fact is the olds dont want to play the sips because they are still insecure from playing second fiddle for ten decades.
The new kids dont have that fear. They want to win and beat the clowns just down the highway.

B-b-b-but we dont want to help their schedule!! What kind of loser talk is that?! We are only fan base in America with such a vocal opposition to playing another team.

Play the game. Beat them where it hurts the most- ON THE FIELD.

Everything else is crybaby pizza.

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BS, class of 96 and we dominated tu during my formative years (late 80's early 90's). I used to think it was a friendly rivalry and actually rooted for them against Nebraska when they won the Big 12 Championship. I doubt any tsip jumped and yelled louder after the roll left on 4th down. Then I graduated and moved to San Antonio and had to live around sips and t-shirt sips. I quickly learned do despise them in anyway I never thought possible. To many of them have no redeaming value and I say NEVER again. My cousin won a NC playing on the tu baseball team and I have family members and friends who went to tu and I respect, but they are in the vast minority of tu a**holes and I have no desire to be associated with those pos ever.

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levypantsEOY said:

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Bonfire1996 said:

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And that's why Cullen gets paid to play the game and not to organize the game. He thinks he knows the situation, but in reality, he has no perspective and therefore, no clue. In other words, he was dumb enough to swallow the bait.

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He has no clue but Bonfire1996 knows all?

I think its largely a generational issue. The sad fact is the olds dont want to play the sips because they are still insecure from playing second fiddle for ten decades.
The new kids dont have that fear. They want to win and beat the clowns just down the highway.

B-b-b-but we dont want to help their schedule!! What kind of loser talk is that?! We are only fan base in America with such a vocal opposition to playing another team.

Play the game. Beat them where it hurts the most- ON THE FIELD.

Everything else is crybaby pizza.

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EXACTLY

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EXACTLYYYYY....why the adults are making the decisions here and not the youths who are so easily swayed and triggered by social media posts and smack talk.

FIFY

Besides all of the other great reasons not to play them that have been mentioned so far, I don't trust our fanbase not to revert back to the obsession with them if we were to play them again.

We've gone out and forged our own identity. We've had some success. I don't want to go back to the days of too many Aggies being obsessed with the sips. It's unhealthy. We're great without them and without ever talking about them or measuring ourselves against them.

If you bring the game back, I worry you also bring back the "little brother," small time mentality.

This is the one time is wish Texags would go full communist and ban anyone who brought up the idea of playing them again.

Its beyond a dumb idea on A&M's part. Never give up the advantage

It's so simple

Sarduakar said:

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I would really love the breakdown of Class and whether you want to play again. I think the majority of those Ags pushing for this renewal probably didn't even experience a t.u. or very many in school. ( I bet less than 10)

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92.

Thought I would miss it.

Even mourned the loss for a couple of years.

And then that went away.

Never again.

Ever

Did I mention F them?

And never again?

Okay...we good

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My bet is that 95% of you who don't understand NEVER AGAIN are too young to understand why us older Ags say it. Cullen falls into that category.

F 'em. From the heart.

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Who is "them"? If you're referring to the big cigars and athletic department in tu land then I get it. However, even sticking just to horn fans, they represent the minority of the overall fanbase. There are literally hundreds of thousands of horn fans that have nothing to do with whoever "they" are, just as there are hundreds of thousands of Aggies that couldn't care less. That's who this game is for. It's not for Deloss Dodds, just like its not for John Sharp. It's for the millions of cumulative fans on both sides that want to see a game on the field and don't give a sh&$ about the petty d measuring contests between the power brokers on each side. Whatever wrongs those people have committed against us has lead us to the SEC, the best situation that could happen. They no longer have any control over A&M via their conference commissioner figureheads and loser knee bending programs that should be in the AAC with SMU. It's over, they lost. Now it's time they lose on the field as well.

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Wrong. They dictated the terms on the field for decades with their dirty politics and underhanded schemes. We turned the tables for ourselves and now we get to dictate the terms. We dont bend the knee and give in just because their AD spouts off on Instagram

And "they" includes the administration, the coaches, the alumni, their fans, et all. F em

Goodbye to texas university

So long to the orange and the white

Not playing tu hurts tu therefore we should not play tu.

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Class of '79 here. Play 'em. They are the only team we are obsessed with - there is a reason for that. Everyone says since we are in the SEC we are no longer the little brother, but then they spout how everything is rigged - sounds like a little brother's excuse to me. Florida plays Florida State who is in an equally weak conference. If we are ready to take the next step (I think we are), bring it on!!!

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Yep, bunch of grown up babies.

I guess Florida should cancel FSU because what do they have to gain?!?!?! [sarcasm]

I used to agree with the excuses, now I just see them as pathetic and weak. And from what I've seen, that's how most neutral CFB fans see it too.

We don't look strong by appearing scared to play our rival.

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You're making a lot of the same points as the t-sips. Consider that

And if you think a game of football on a Saturday is solely influenced by the players on the field and the way the ball bounces, you're naive. Money, politics, influence, the media all play a role. The sips have known this longer than most and have exploited the human element in CFB for a long time.

They dont just all of a sudden want to play us because of newfound sportsmanship. They aren't dumb. They know we've gotten better since moving to the SEC and they have regressed. There's an angle here for them that they're trying to work

Im not saying "never again", Im just saying we have the leverage and shouldn't just run back and kiss the ring and okay them just because they talk ****

Rivalry games outside of conference matchups don't really matter that much in the new age of college football. The so-called rivalries of yore have become passe'. So let them die a natural death. We are no longer a SWC, nor Big 12 team so there is no obligation to associate with those old teams. Time to move on in life. There is a reason we left UH, SMU, Rice, Baylor, Tech, Texas behind. Playing them served no useful purpose.
Heck Arkansas left us behind in 1991, when it moved to the SEC, and Nebraska and Colorado left us behind when they joined the big10 and Pac12 respectfully. We have eight solid SEC matchups every year. And one game with either a Pac12, ACC, Big10, or Independent (Notre Dame) foe. We don't need to sacrifice that game just to play Texas and we don't need to add Texas to that mix. 9 big games is enough. Our objective is to win the SEC West and get into the championship game against the SEC East champ. Palying Texas does nothing to further that goal.

Recruiting is not an issue. Win the SEC West and the SEC championship and we sure won't have to be concerned about recruiting against Texas. The cards we are holding now will take care of that issue by itself. We don't need to play them to solve that problem that everyone is wringing their hands about.

The truth is the Sips bring nothing to the table for us. Similarly neither does Baylor, TCU, UH, Rice, SMU, and Tech. We would be a bowl game to them, while they are just a bump in the road to us. We have plenty of money, noteriety, and everthing else you need just being in the SEC. There is not a damn thing that a game with any of them can do for us. So just ignore the sips and move on. The others understand what has happened and have better sense than to beg. The sips are desperate and have no shame. They never have on anything. Don't get mixed up with them again.