Sq 17 said:

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The deal in case you forgot was
tu,tceh,OU,OSU,Cu and the Ags, joining
Two 8 team divisions the AZ schools join the B12 joiners
9 conference games a year 7 from the division & 2 from the other side

Each year the Ags would host one west coast team and one AZ school The Ags would make one trip to the west coast and Az each year.

By taking 5 schools from TX & OK I think the "fit" issue would be relatively minor we would fit with the teams that made the move and most of the scheduling and interactions would be with those teams/universities

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And that would have been a garbage conference to be in.

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hunter2012 said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Oh look, an entire thread of people without Ag Tags discussing views that no actual Aggie holds.

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Yep, I'd rather be 0-8 every year in the SEC than be another gimp in the Big Dumpster Fire Conference. Just pathetic posts all around. These same Ags will gripe about a 80% full stadium playing Lamar and Texas State, let alone baylor and Kansas.

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I think this is the opinion that drives me the most crazy. We are in the business of trying to win conference hardware and national hardware.

This opinion is is the "I'd rather be invited to cool frat party and sit with Sidney, Jugdish, and Flounder (Animal House reference)"

Look, we had a lot of excitement and bluster of the bold move. We followed it up with a good two seasons with one big time QB who ended up being an embarrassment. Since then, we have settled into the middle 4-6 of the conference.

I want to win. Hardware. Period. We aint close in this conference. Even with JFF, we technically finished 4th in the overall conference.

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Well sht then, lets go to Conf USA or the Mountain West or whatever other easiest to win conference there is if trophies are the goal.

levypantsEOY said:

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OTredux said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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The answer to that is pretty simple. Being in the SEC differentiates us from every other school in Texas.

Plus I'd much rather watch games against great teams than watch us play Baylor or Tech. When we were in the SWC, we used to have sparkling records then we would usually get humbled in a bowl game. That wasn't fun either.

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Agree with this. I also think it would have helped the program to have kept the tu series after leaving because there would have been a lot of Ag wins during that run and it would have helped the overall attitude of what is becoming an increasingly pathetic fanbase.

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Honestly, a good middle ground would be to play in SEC but reinstate Thanksgiving vs our real rival.

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This times 1000000.

But way too many guys who hide their obvious fear in reinstating the game behind the "we left them in the dust" argument.

Left them in the dust... for our amazing 7-5 seasons on repeat, creamed by better talent on a national scale.

Bring it back. The only thing that would make this season bearable would be a tu shellacking.

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When you and your band of dorks use the term "fear" with respect to playing tu, it shows the inability to actually have logical thought. And the inability to see that getting away from them has done nothing but allow our entire athletic program to begin to lean to be Texas A&M and not tu's little brother doing what is best for them first and us second.

The pining to go back to second fiddle is maddening with your ilk.

Final post I understand that after we torpedoed the PAC deal joining SEC a few years later was better than staying in the bdf
The fit and propenderance of west coast games is a Strawman argument.

Ags in the PAC 16 schedule would look like

Cupcake
@Oregon state
Okie lite at Kyle
Arky in Dallas
@Tceh i
CU at Kyle
AZ at Kyle
@ ASU
USC Trojans at Kyle
@ ou
Cupcake
tu at Kyle

In the PAC 16 we'd have 4or 5 conference home games each instead of the 3 or 4 we have now

You miss playing Baylor?

What about UH, SMU and Rice?

Reno Hightower said:

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In pre-playoff 2012 a hypothetically undefeated and Big12 champ A&M would have been in the BCS championship game over an undefeated SEC champ Alabama team and an undefeated Notre Dame team? There is no way on gods green earth that would've happened. A&M would've been left out in the cold at 3rd and if you don't believe that you don't know college football.

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This.

Go back to 1992. Alabama, Miami, and Texas A&M all finished the regular season undefeated. Alabama tacked on an SEC title game. A&M was slated to the Cotton Bowl to face a 1-loss (I think) Notre Dame team, while Alabama and Miami were aligned in another big bowl (Orange or Sugar). Was Texas A&M given any mention as finishing with a win over Notre Dame and at least a share of the national title? Nope. This was in an era when there were multiple years of two teams "sharing" a national title (Washington and GA Tech, for instance). Nope, we were not in that discussion. The national title that season was to be decided between Alabama and Miami - Alabama clubbed Miami and claimed the title. Of course, the DMN ran their hit piece on A&M shortly before the Cotton Bowl, and many of our players ended up suspended for the Cotton Bowl, and Notre Dame kicked our ass, so it was a moot point.

Sq 17 said:

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Final post I understand that after we torpedoed the PAC deal joining SEC a few years later was better than staying in the bdf
The fit and propenderance of west coast games is a Strawman argument.

Ags in the PAC 16 schedule would look like

Cupcake
@Oregon state
Okie lite at Kyle
Arky in Dallas
@Tceh i
CU at Kyle
AZ at Kyle
@ ASU
USC Trojans at Kyle
@ ou
Cupcake
tu at Kyle

In the PAC 16 we'd have 4or 5 conference home games each instead of the 3 or 4 we have now

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No, it isnt.

And what would the schedule look like the following year? 3-4 home games against opponents nobody gets excited about.

Sounds like you need to go be a fan of Utah or Az. State as that is undoubtedly where your heart is. F the west coast and the Pac, we have no business being that direction and thankfulky we didnt let tu push us into a sht conference.

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The fit and propenderance of west coast games is a Strawman argument.

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It's a "Strawman argument" to talk about west coast games in the Pacific Athletic Conference? Really?

Oh, crap. I've been trolled...

schmellba99 said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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OTredux said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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The answer to that is pretty simple. Being in the SEC differentiates us from every other school in Texas.

Plus I'd much rather watch games against great teams than watch us play Baylor or Tech. When we were in the SWC, we used to have sparkling records then we would usually get humbled in a bowl game. That wasn't fun either.

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Agree with this. I also think it would have helped the program to have kept the tu series after leaving because there would have been a lot of Ag wins during that run and it would have helped the overall attitude of what is becoming an increasingly pathetic fanbase.

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Honestly, a good middle ground would be to play in SEC but reinstate Thanksgiving vs our real rival.

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This times 1000000.

But way too many guys who hide their obvious fear in reinstating the game behind the "we left them in the dust" argument.

Left them in the dust... for our amazing 7-5 seasons on repeat, creamed by better talent on a national scale.

Bring it back. The only thing that would make this season bearable would be a tu shellacking.

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When you and your band of dorks use the term "fear" with respect to playing tu, it shows the inability to actually have logical thought. And the inability to see that getting away from them has done nothing but allow our entire athletic program to begin to lean to be Texas A&M and not tu's little brother doing what is best for them first and us second.

The pining to go back to second fiddle is maddening with your ilk.

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Second fiddle to tu? What number fiddle are we in, say, our own division?

Love the trolls (Stumpknocker and the weird levy pants guy) pretending to be Aggies week after week on the Zoo. Nothing psychotic or pathetic about that, at all.....

BarryMckockiner said:

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I'm a longhorn fan, but my wife went to A&M. Sometimes, I like to get on here for a good laugh and this thread may top it. This whole "B12 is beneath us" is classic ****. Simply delusional like thinking ya'll could compete in the SEC. Have fun with all that $$ and brand recognition for a 7-5 team every year.

Quality losses!!!!!!

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With all due respect, you seem like a ****ing ****** ****. Enjoy your almost immediate ban, you t-shirt fan bjtch.

You are def adorable, little buddy.
Username checks out.

Didn't you just recently have 3 losing seasons in the Big12?

agent-maroon said:

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Baylor is 6-0 and will be a top #20 team ranked ahead of us

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Did they even play on TV today? If they did, then I couldn't find it. Has tech or baylor played a televised game this season?

And if you have to look it up to answer then you've just made my point.

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More TV revenue from from all the national TV beat downs we get each year!

Ubitag said:

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Leaving the B12 and going to the SEC was like going from a government cush job to the private sector that expects results.

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You sound like someone I wouldn't want to employ.

Kellso said:

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rebelAg02 said:

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- made Bowtie Loftin popular
- we feel better losing to strangers than our real rivals

My give-a-**** level for this program dropped when we left for the SEC and replaced Sherman with Sumlin. Would have been better to man up and dominate the Big 12. Good chance we have our NC in 2012 if in the Big 12

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the bolded is the truth. Not sure if anyone will admit it.

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Can help but notice all these

"We" should have stayed in the Little 10

Are coming from folks without Ag Tags

Smells like terribly obvious troll

Go back to your boards and pretend to care about next weeks game against Kansas and cry about how it's "the biased SEC media" that is the reason the mighty Little 10 has never played in a playoff championship game

Anyone wanting to go back to the Little Ten obviously doesn't enjoy good football - - even if we aren't playing very well right now.

Some of yall are soft. South Carolina just pulled a huge upset, & I wonder if they've thought about leaving the SEC.

agent-maroon said:

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How Saturday's college football results affected the playoff chase

1st 13 paragraphs were SEC related.

Next 4 paragraphs were B12 related. Three were about ou, one was about sip possibly playing some sort of spoiler role. No mention whatsoever of top 20 and undefeated baylor.

Last and only paragraph about the PAC: "Oregon is keeping the Pac-12's hopes alive."

Any questions?

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Actually I do......are you interested in (original) SEC schools winning national titles or Texas A&M?

About 15 years ago there were tons of talks about potential "super conferences" and one of the things that people always failed to mention about super conferences was someone was going to have to lose.

Would you rather be the top dog in a weaker conference are an also ran in a great conference?
OU is in a much better position than A&M.

It seems like a lot of you are fine with finishing in 4th or 5th place as long as LSU, or Alabama gets to compete for the National Title.

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Actually I do......are you interested in (original) SEC schools winning national titles or Texas A&M?

Texas A&M


About 15 years ago there were tons of talks about potential "super conferences" and one of the things that people always failed to mention about super conferences was someone was going to have to lose.

Would you rather be the top dog in a weaker conference are an also ran in a great conference?

Neither. Would rather be a top dog in a great conference.


It seems like a lot of you are fine with finishing in 4th or 5th place as long as LSU, or Alabama gets to compete for the National Title.

It seems like you and others believe that Texas A&M isn't capable of doing any better than our recent history would suggest. I refuse to accept that and will continue to believe that we will improve and rise above your stated expectations.

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Clear enough?

Kellso said:

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agent-maroon said:

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How Saturday's college football results affected the playoff chase

1st 13 paragraphs were SEC related.

Next 4 paragraphs were B12 related. Three were about ou, one was about sip possibly playing some sort of spoiler role. No mention whatsoever of top 20 and undefeated baylor.

Last and only paragraph about the PAC: "Oregon is keeping the Pac-12's hopes alive."

Any questions?

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Actually I do......are you interested in (original) SEC schools winning national titles or Texas A&M?

About 15 years ago there were tons of talks about potential "super conferences" and one of the things that people always failed to mention about super conferences was someone was going to have to lose.

Would you rather be the top dog in a weaker conference are an also ran in a great conference?
OU is in a much better position than A&M.

It seems like a lot of you are fine with finishing in 4th or 5th place as long as LSU, or Alabama gets to compete for the National Title.

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You are a Baylor fan and used to defend rape condoner and enabler art Briles. Your opinion is dirt here.

We also finished ahead of LSU in the SEC last year.

Kellso is a baylor fan? I wonder if he realizes that baylor is ranked and heading for a bowl game this year? Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't as few outside of central Texas do.

The Aggies might lose to LSU, Georgia, Bama, Auburn, and Clemson this year, all of whom happen to have a shot at being legit top 10 teams.

Except for the aforementioned, who even has a chance at winning 9, 10 games with that schedule? This could actually be a decent team but the record won't show because of the ridiculously tough schedule.

If LSU beats Bama then we might face the #1 team three times this season. Not sure if that's ever happened before.

levypantsEOY said:

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You are def adorable, little buddy.
Username checks out.

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Thanks, my grandma said I was a great catch. What's cuter though is your coming here week after week, pretending to be an Aggie whenever most everyone here knows you're a t-shirt sip troll.

Meximan said:

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The Aggies might lose to LSU, Georgia, Bama, Auburn, and Clemson this year, all of whom happen to have a shot at being legit top 10 teams.

Except for the aforementioned, who even has a chance at winning 9, 10 games with that schedule? This could actually be a decent team but the record won't show because of the ridiculously tough schedule.

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Are you whining because you have a tough schedule THIS year? What about next year? Is there any reason the Aggies can't be 10-0 when traveling to Tuscaloosa next year?

I know you folks get tired of waiting for next year but that looks like a **** or get off the pot schedule for Jimbo to me.

Meximan said:

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The Aggies might lose to LSU, Georgia, Bama, Auburn, and Clemson this year, all of whom happen to have a shot at being legit top 10 teams.

Except for the aforementioned, who even has a chance at winning 9, 10 games with that schedule? This could actually be a decent team but the record won't show because of the ridiculously tough schedule.

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Are you whining because you have a tough schedule THIS year? What about next year? Is there any reason the Aggies can't be 10-0 when traveling to Tuscaloosa next year?

I know you folks get tired of waiting for next year but that looks like a **** or get off the pot schedule for Jimbo to me.

OTredux said:

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hunter2012 said:

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Oh look, an entire thread of people without Ag Tags discussing views that no actual Aggie holds.

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Yep, I'd rather be 0-8 every year in the SEC than be another gimp in the Big Dumpster Fire Conference. Just pathetic posts all around. These same Ags will gripe about a 80% full stadium playing Lamar and Texas State, let alone baylor and Kansas.

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I think this is the opinion that drives me the most crazy. We are in the business of trying to win conference hardware and national hardware.

This opinion is is the "I'd rather be invited to cool frat party and sit with Sidney, Jugdish, and Flounder (Animal House reference)"

Look, we had a lot of excitement and bluster of the bold move. We followed it up with a good two seasons with one big time QB who ended up being an embarrassment. Since then, we have settled into the middle 4-6 of the conference.

I want to win. Hardware. Period. We aint close in this conference. Even with JFF, we technically finished 4th in the overall conference.

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Maybe college football isn't the sport for you, or just buy a t-shirt for whichever school wins the CFB playoffs each season. I would also encourage you to take trips to away games to Athens, Auburn, Gainesville, Oxford, Columbia, SC and eventually Knoxville. Those experiences are infinitely better and more exciting than the likes of Waco, Ames, Lubbock, Stoolwater, and Norman (miserable locations).

The goal posts have moved. Angry sips who threatened to never play us again (and encouraged the rest of the dumpster fire brethren to follow their lead), were stunned when bowtie called their bluff and moved on. All I heard is how we would be 0-8 every year in the SEC and a perineal doormat. I have enjoyed seeing a Heisman trophy winner beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa, beating #3 Auburn at their place, and other exciting wins (LSU last season, Tennessee a few years ago, Florida in Gainesville and several others). We get to watch the best players in college football week in and week out. We finished second in the SEC West last season and next year's schedule and beyond will be more winnable than this year. We have ONE 7 win season since joining the SEC, and ultimately it cost Sumlin his job. In that same span, the sips rigged a conference, play one real opponent each year, and still had three losing seasons and lost to Kansas.

Adorable Mason Reeves said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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You are def adorable, little buddy.
Username checks out.

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Thanks, my grandma said I was a great catch. What's cuter though is your coming here week after week, pretending to be an Aggie whenever most everyone here knows you're a t-shirt sip troll.

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Lol.
Did all your sunshine pumping bleach out your Ag Tag?? Can't find it anywhere!!

levypantsEOY said:

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Adorable Mason Reeves said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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You are def adorable, little buddy.
Username checks out.

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Thanks, my grandma said I was a great catch. What's cuter though is your coming here week after week, pretending to be an Aggie whenever most everyone here knows you're a t-shirt sip troll.

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Lol.
Did all your sunshine pumping bleach out your Ag Tag?? Can't find it anywhere!!

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I never claimed to be a Texas A&M graduate. I do know how to spot sip trolls though. What happened to your Ag Tag, Mr. Former Student? Let me guess, you had season tickets right next to the poster named gopitt?

Bo Darville said:

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Kellso said:

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agent-maroon said:

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How Saturday's college football results affected the playoff chase

1st 13 paragraphs were SEC related.

Next 4 paragraphs were B12 related. Three were about ou, one was about sip possibly playing some sort of spoiler role. No mention whatsoever of top 20 and undefeated baylor.

Last and only paragraph about the PAC: "Oregon is keeping the Pac-12's hopes alive."

Any questions?

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Actually I do......are you interested in (original) SEC schools winning national titles or Texas A&M?

About 15 years ago there were tons of talks about potential "super conferences" and one of the things that people always failed to mention about super conferences was someone was going to have to lose.

Would you rather be the top dog in a weaker conference are an also ran in a great conference?
OU is in a much better position than A&M.

It seems like a lot of you are fine with finishing in 4th or 5th place as long as LSU, or Alabama gets to compete for the National Title.

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You are a Baylor fan and used to defend rape condoner and enabler art Briles. Your opinion is dirt here.

We also finished ahead of LSU in the SEC last year.

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Bo,
Im a fan of elite football teams.

Elite football and Texas A&M are allergic to each other.
When is the last time that A&M finished in first place?
Has it happened in the 21st Century?

A middle of the pack BIG12 team is now wondering why they are a middle of the pack SEC team.

My thoughts are that Texas A&M could have easily done what OU has done in the BIGXII for the past 10 years.
I don't really see the benefit of getting your ass kicked by Auburn or Alabama on National TV every season....but to each his own.

1. We got away from tu
2. More money allowing better facilities and coaches
3. Better recruiting
4. Much better opponents
5. Every game on TV

mlb87 said:

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Not alot of fun running this gauntlet every year. Seems like we would be ranked higher every year if we would have stayed in the b12. I know, makes the regular season more exciting but teams don't seem to be rewarded for strength of schedule.

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No longer interested in being little brother to the shorthorn is a good reason. Plus we are making more money and still doing well in other sports.