This situation is starting to remind me of the Floyd Raven signing day fiasco.

some TigerTears from http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/b/6/lsu-sports-board/

WRTS now stands for We Run These "STATES"

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Sometimes, a family who hasn't made good strategic decisions for generations finds itself in stewardship of a valuable asset. They are NOT equipped to maximize that asset. Instead, they sit in their trailer park and make trailer park quality decisions. In life, there are times where your best move is to get out of your own way. . .

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For ****'s sake, quit posting **** like this.

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So you disagree, then, or would you care to try to piss me off?

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Oh, don't get me wrong, pissing you off has been a boatload of fun. However, denegrating a kid and his entire family on a message board because he did not choose us is childish, classless, and petty. And although I'd rather he chose the good guys, I harbor no ill will towards 18 year old football players I have absolutely no connection to.

And soon to come......#WRTW

This thread reminds me a lot of the threads on his decision to choose the sips in the first place. All the "experts" that were calling out Sumlin for not "trusting" him with a program changing decision. All the people that were elevating him to god-like status and claiming he was some sort of must have recruit. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. He is a good player and I would love to have him play for the good guys, but not if the baggage is too heavy.

Sumlin/Chavis/Program >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY single player and it's not even close.

Our program is offering kids the chance of a lifetime now. If they don't want it, then fine. We shouldn't get on our knees for anyone. I don't care how good they think they are.

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Sometimes, a family who hasn't made good strategic decisions for generations finds itself in stewardship of a valuable asset. They are NOT equipped to maximize that asset. Instead, they sit in their trailer park and make trailer park quality decisions. In life, there are times where your best move is to get out of your own way. . .

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For ****'s sake, quit posting **** like this.

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So you disagree, then, or would you care to try to piss me off?

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Oh, don't get me wrong, pissing you off has been a boatload of fun. However, denegrating a kid and his entire family on a message board because he did not choose us is childish, classless, and petty. And although I'd rather he chose the good guys, I harbor no ill will towards 18 year old football players I have absolutely no connection to.

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Malik's decision making was very poor across multiple dimensions, particularly time. His parents, apparently, were significant contributors to that decisioning. If your lifetime decisioning has been poor, why not outsource advice on your child's important strategic decisions? Jefferson's family chose poorly. It's OK to be marginally competent and marginally successful in life. But just dont celebrate it. Sounds like you do.

He (they) made his choice....and Sumlin isn't going to call him(them). Parents today really do think they run the show in their child's education.....and it starts in pre-school. Bring back values...guide your child along the way so they can make informed decisions when they get ready to go to college. Guide don't choose for them. Good luck at TU, Malik.

And we are on page 6 talking about some HS recruit on the same day that we landed the BEST DC in the country. Kinda warped sense of importance if you ask me.

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This thread reminds me a lot of the threads on his decision to choose the sips in the first place. All the "experts" that were calling out Sumlin for not "trusting" him with a program changing decision. All the people that were elevating him to god-like status and claiming he was some sort of must have recruit. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. He is a good player and I would love to have him play for the good guys, but not if the baggage is too heavy.

Sumlin/Chavis/Program >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY single player and it's not even close.

Our program is offering kids the chance of a lifetime now. If they don't want it, then fine. We shouldn't get on our knees for anyone. I don't care how good they think they are.

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So if Sumlin decides he wants him, then you would agree Sumlin thinks it is for the best of the program correct?

Agreed Frisco, but it's still worth a 15 minute call with Sumlin and Chavis to find out what he is really thinking. Cut to the chase, but be the aggressor in the conversation and let him know you aren't f'n around. If he wants to talk lets talk otherwise this call end is 30 seconds.

Sure that is fine and he might have already done it.

...but, I am pretty sure that he has a direct phone number or e-mail address where he could have spoken directly to Sumlin about it. Instead he went the twitter route.

...And, I couldn't care less what he decides. Our program is headed in the right direction with our without him.

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And we are on page 6 talking about some HS recruit on the same day that we landed the BEST DC in the country. Kinda warped sense of importance if you ask me.

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Sorry, my fault. I couldn't help ****ing with ckwarren.

This is recruiting. Even if you think the door is shut, you still try to recruit a 5* if he says he is open. The attitude that we don't need him is ridiculous. We need all the good linebackers we can get. Come on back Malik!

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Sometimes, a family who hasn't made good strategic decisions for generations finds itself in stewardship of a valuable asset. They are NOT equipped to maximize that asset. Instead, they sit in their trailer park and make trailer park quality decisions. In life, there are times where your best move is to get out of your own way. . .

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For ****'s sake, quit posting **** like this.

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So you disagree, then, or would you care to try to piss me off?

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Oh, don't get me wrong, pissing you off has been a boatload of fun. However, denegrating a kid and his entire family on a message board because he did not choose us is childish, classless, and petty. And although I'd rather he chose the good guys, I harbor no ill will towards 18 year old football players I have absolutely no connection to.

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Malik's decision making was very poor across multiple dimensions, particularly time. His parents, apparently, were significant contributors to that decisioning. If your lifetime decisioning has been poor, why not outsource advice on your child's important strategic decisions? Jefferson's family chose poorly. It's OK to be marginally competent and marginally successful in life. But just dont celebrate it. Sounds like you do.

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You are too ****ing easy.

I don't mind the fact that he was choosing another school over the Ags, I'm pissed at the fact that he has been negatively recruiting against A&M and trying to flip other recruits. Now he wants to give us another look? **** you, kiddo.

Red, you are a smart, witty fellow.

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Red, you are a smart, witty fellow.

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Thanks kindly. Means a lot coming from someone like you.

Movin' on up........to the east side......

Maybe."too late" was in reference to how long it took tu to score. Everyone needs to chill out and quit overreacting on every turn in the process.

If he wants to talk, you talk and do whatever you can do bring in that kind of a talent. So he gave a verbal to Charlie under immense familial pressure and then got a bit excited about his commitment and talked a bit of crap about a rival school. Boo friggin hoo. The sort of people who let that bother them are the same thin-skinned idiots who come running over here to post that the 137th comment on whatever sports website story was a bonfire joke. Those people need to STFU and keep their ignorance to themselves, and let actual recruiters do their jobs.

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If he wants to talk, you talk and do whatever you can do bring in that kind of a talent. So he gave a verbal to Charlie under immense familial pressure and then got a bit excited about his commitment and talked a bit of crap about a rival school. Boo friggin hoo. The sort of people who let that bother them are the same thin-skinned idiots who come running over here to post that the 137th comment on whatever sports website story was a bonfire joke. Those people need to STFU and keep their ignorance to themselves, and let actual recruiters do their jobs.

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Pretty sad we can't dominate New Mexico recruiting.

A&M has recently gone after talent that ended up having too much criminal or academic qualifying risk to it. As Belicheck points out, intelligence matters, too. Sometimes I think A&M's football recruiters dont pay enough attention to an athlete's ability to recognize formations, and get his teammates into the appropriate alignment (like Dat and Hodges did). I'm happy watching Malik's career unfold as a whorn. The way his decision went down smacks of more than just an 18-year-old struggling with a big decision.

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Texas is already down...this is their only leg to stand on.

If Sumlin steals Malik he will completely vaporize the UT football program...and he may also be a Wizard from the future

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Didn't see that in Loy Holth's post.

Have Red Skye and ckwarren hooked up yet?

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Have Red Skye and ckwarren hooked up yet?

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No comment.

BTW...electronic and written communication is allowed in dead period...

Dead period
The dead period is the most restrictive. No in-person contact is allowed, even if a prospect makes a visit to the college campus. Written and electronic communications are still permitted.
And yet, prospects still do decide to commit to schools in late December and early January, often because they've considered all their options, taken all their visits, and are ready to pull the trigger.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/12/17/7401635/ncaa-football-recruiting-periods-dead-quiet-evaluation

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Texas is already down...this is their only leg to stand on.

If Sumlin steals Malik he will completely vaporize the UT football program...and he may also be a Wizard from the future

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^^^this

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some people are being narrow minded and can't see how the chavis hire can really impact the program, and where malik plays into all of this.

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Sumlin should not have a dialogue with him. He made his decision. Stick with it.

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Yeah.. So this is dumb. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Mom was never going to let him go any where but Austin. Go check out his Dad's tweets.

Check out the DTs that t.u. has recruited the last couple of years. It doesn't matter how fast Malik is, he's going to have 300 pound olinemen on him every play. Kid got pressured into a bad decision, now he gets to live with it.

Sadly it sounds like it was never his decision to make...

#freemalik