Pretty good bet FTAB will never play their old musical rendition of "Dixie" anywhere in the SEC.

So, how about lobbying for a good old southern march tune called: "The Bonnie Blue Flag?"

First verse starts..."We are a band of brothers native to the soil..."

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Texas our Texas
Yellow Rose of Texas
I like Texas
Texas had a *****house in It
Galveston

A must. Followed by When Johnny Comes Marching Home. There would not be a dry eye in the state of Al or MS.

Bop, the irony is that FTAB could play BB Flag and never raise an eyebrow. But play Dixie and the howls begin. When, in reality, BB Flag has a martial theme with a direct link to the Confederacy and the Civil War while Dixie does not.

However, I think we do best with a pure Texas theme. All the southern states were Confederate, but Texas was an independent nation. Greater source of pride, in my book.

As far as no dry eyes in MS and AL... and LA, GA, SC and FL for that matter. I'd rather leave 'em crying over the score of the game than what the FTAB plays.

Dixie is a song about freed slaves that miss the plantation. Can you understand why some would find that offense?

No. The song makes no reference to slaves, slavery, or oppression of any peoples due to ethnic/cultural background or economic status. It does not glorify the Confederate States of America or even a "states rights" viewpoint that might infer such a slant. In fact, there is nothing at all "racial" inherent in the lyrics or the music of the song whatsoever. It is simply a song about feeling a homage and romantic attachment to a land and its culture. The only way anyone can argue that it is "racist" is by the inference that because it is a traditional song in the South, it is somehow part of a "racist" culture in the South. That inference, in itself, is more degrading and culturally discriminating toward inclusive and progressive residents of the South than anything the song itself will ever represent in terms of "racism".

The "racist" label on the song "Dixie" is a perfect example of how people regurgitate what has been fed to them by the well-meaning but extremely ignorant cultural "activists" and "reformists", without ever stopping to think about it for themselves.

Guess what was one of Abraham Lincoln's favorite southern songs ?

No, not THE BONNIE BLUE FLAG !

Black Jack:

You have no idea the origin of the song, do you?

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All the southern states were Confederate, but Texas was an independent nation.

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Did not Texas join the United States of America in 1845 ?

Geeeez ?

Sitting by the roadside on a summer's day
Chatting with my mess-mates, passing time away
Lying in the shadows underneath the trees
Goodness, how delicious, eating goober peas.

Chorus

Peas, peas, peas, peas
Eating goober peas
Goodness, how delicious,
Eating goober peas.

Had never heard it before. The music is good lyrics are full tard

Band nerds

How about Mickey Newbury's "An American Trilogy"?

It starts with Dixie, but ends with The Battle Hymn of the Republic.

Elvis Presley's version

Or how about a new arrangement that combines Dixie, The Yellow Rose of Texas and The Battle Hymn of the Republic?

Playing Dixie at Ole Miss would be pretty swag

Thriller night?

Waltz aross texas?

Billy Jean?

Billy Joel?

FYI: My Australian Cattle Dog is named Dixie.

Geeeez Bop! Texas HAD BEEN an independent Nation. A source of considerable pride far exceeding the fact we were once a Confederate state. (At least in my mind). Did you REALLY think I don't know we joined the Union in 1845 and seceded against the wishes of Sam Houston in 61. Geez indeed!

Deep in the Heart of Texas

-inoffensive
-easily identified with Texas
-catchy repetitiveness that sticks in your head like Rocky Top and Boomer Sooner

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Songs that everybody loves but I secretly hate: "Deep in the Heart of Texas." I can't help but think of that scene from that Peewee Herman movie.

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No. The song makes no reference to slaves, slavery

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Black Jack, I've liked some of your previous posts, a lot, but I think you're wrong on this one. Check out the lyrics, bro.

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Geeeez Bop! Texas HAD BEEN an independent Nation. A source of considerable pride far exceeding the fact we were once a Confederate state. (At least in my mind). Did you REALLY think I don't know we joined the Union in 1845 and seceded against the wishes of Sam Houston in 61. Geez indeed!

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Frickin' great post, stbabs

I'm not in favor of our band playing "Dixie," but I'd much rather they play "Dixie" than "Deep in the Heart of Texas" at an SEC school, where it might come across as self-promoting, and in-your-face. Actually, what I'd really prefer is:

1. Ballad of the Green Berets
2. When Johnny Comes Marching Home
3. Patton
4. The Noble Men of Kyle
5. The Aggie War Hymn
6. The Strategic Air Command March

and the others I'm just forgetting at this moment. Those songs are who we are.

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Dixie is a song about freed slaves that miss the plantation. Can you understand why some would find that offense?

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Bingo. We're Texans......so much more proud of that than any southern/confederate history.

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Bingo. We're Texans......so much more proud of that than any southern/confederate history.

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+1. Native Texan. Both grandfathers were native Texans and de facto Civil Rights activists post WWII. Very proud of being Texan. Not proud of Confederate alignment, even though another ancestor was Thomas Jonathan Jackson, better known as "Stonewall Jackson." (How do you spend your Sundays educating Black children in reading, writing, history, arithmetic and Bible Studies, then turn around and fight for the slave-holding South during the Civil War? That "I'm fighting for the great state of Virginia" stuff doesn't cotton with most people's current sensibilities.)

I'm not dissing our Southern state neighbors, I'm just saying that "Dixie" is not something we should play on a regular basis, even though musically I prefer it to The Battle Hymn of the Republic. (In melody, not in theme.)

Like tbirdspur just said, "We're Texans," dammit. (Not speaking for tbirdspur, just echoing what I took from his comment.)

EDIT: Hey tbirdspur2010, I just noticed that your occupation is "U.S. Air Force." Thank you for your service. Because of you and your colleagues, I'm able to sit and type this in peace. Thank you.

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By far, Best-Of-The-Best FTAB marches is... The French National Defile.

Sorry.
Can't locate a FTAB link.

(1). Nothing wrong with playing Civil War era music. The last time we played Arkansas at Kyle in the SWC the FTAB performed one of their most memorable shows of all time, and it was filled with Civil War tunes.
(2). The FTAB needs to perform at as many away SEC games as possible, as soon as possible. The band is the pulse of Aggieland and they need to show that. If you play Dixie, so what.

Folks, the FTAB is The Spirt of Aggieland. For those of you who dont want to admit this, nor like it, as of July 1, we are playing in a conference that is basically the Confederacy: play to the crowd; show them what we can do. Believe me, we will make friends in this conference real fast if the band goes to as many away games as possible and performs at half time.

AA

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Show them we can read sheet music?

Nm

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We are not Dixie we are Texas and our cultures are not the same. We may have joined their conf. But we did not become them, just like mizzou. We need to be us and not them. Don't know what the sudden affinity is with becoming the deep south is? If we are going to brag about bring THE Texas team in the SEC then why act like them?

People confuse the fact that the lyrics were attributable to a freed slave pining for a life left behind in the South and the use of the song in "blackface" spoofs by minstrel singers in the 1800s with what the song actually says and its larger meaning in the culture of the United States as a whole.

Wikipedia:

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Today, "Dixie" is sometimes considered offensive, and its critics link the act of singing it to sympathy for the concept of slavery in the American South. Its supporters, on the other hand, view it as a legitimate aspect of Southern culture and heritage and the campaigns against it as political correctness. In fact, the song was a favorite of President Abraham Lincoln; he had it played at some of his political rallies and at the announcement of General Robert E. Lee's surrender.

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The tune of the song was also adapted and sung with various lyrics by both Northern and Southern armies during the Civil War.

Lyrics to "Dixie":

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I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times they are not forgotten;
Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land.
In Dixie Land where I was born,
Early on one frosty mornin,
Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land.

Old Missus marry "Will-de-weaber,"
Willium was a gay deceaber;
Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land.
But when he put his arm around'er,
He smiled as fierce as a forty-pound'er,
Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land.

Dar's buck-wheat cakes an 'Ingen' batter,
Makes you fat or a little fatter;
Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land.
Den hoe it down an scratch your grabble,
To Dixie land I'm bound to trabble.
Look away! Look away! Look away! Dixie Land.

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Please point out to me the specific lines that offend or discriminate against any specific group of people or glorify/justify/support the institution of slavery. I cannot seem to find them myself.

I have lived away from the place of my birth and upbringing and have often longed for those things in my past as well. The fact that I am not a slave as is the supposed subject of this song does not make the lyrics or tune any less applicable or appealing to me.

The song has a place in the history of the United States. To say this song at face value demeans anyone living in this day and age is simply ignorant.