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William Foster said:

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jetch17 said:

people need to keep the heat on Lina, response is literally the pinnacle of this job ... cant let her continue to shaky voice dodge stuff


Without power, I'm out of the news loop, but from bits and pieces, it seems like she is literally doing nothing, and only one press conference so far.

This true?


Yep. And prior to storm, she supposedly told state leaders "no thanks, we good fam" when they offered help. Would be hard to believe if it was anyone other than her.

I find it very, very unlikely that the acting governor didn't call the county judge of the the biggest city in Texas that was just hammered by a massive hurricane. Even a self-serving tool like Dan Patrick knows basic political azz-covering 101. Lina is so out of her depth she doesn't even realize she's in a pool, much less drowning.


It's been years and I am still absolutely blown away that she is our leader. Every time she opens her mouth or I see her confused "wtf is going on?" mug on TV, I am in genuine disbelief.


Wait until you see our President.
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CDUB98 said:

jetch17 said:

people need to keep the heat on Lina, response is literally the pinnacle of this job ... cant let her continue to shaky voice dodge stuff


Without power, I'm out of the news loop, but from bits and pieces, it seems like she is literally doing nothing, and only one press conference so far.

This true?

She's got a wedding to plan....Priorities...
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AgLiving06 said:

CDUB98 said:

jetch17 said:

people need to keep the heat on Lina, response is literally the pinnacle of this job ... cant let her continue to shaky voice dodge stuff


Without power, I'm out of the news loop, but from bits and pieces, it seems like she is literally doing nothing, and only one press conference so far.

This true?

She's got a wedding to plan....Priorities...


He looks like a nerd
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jetch17 said:

people need to keep the heat on Lina, response is literally the pinnacle of this job ... cant let her continue to shaky voice dodge stuff


bless her heart she's trying why are you trying to make her accountable
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CDUB98 said:

jetch17 said:

people need to keep the heat on Lina, response is literally the pinnacle of this job ... cant let her continue to shaky voice dodge stuff


Without power, I'm out of the news loop, but from bits and pieces, it seems like she is literally doing nothing, and only one press conference so far.

This true?


all you need as a comp is what Ed did during Ike
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Sea Speed said:

CDUB98 said:

jetch17 said:

people need to keep the heat on Lina, response is literally the pinnacle of this job ... cant let her continue to shaky voice dodge stuff


Without power, I'm out of the news loop, but from bits and pieces, it seems like she is literally doing nothing, and only one press conference so far.

This true?


I'm actually blown away by her lack of visibility. For someone that loves the spotlight she sure is hiding.


of course she's hiding. and local media is letting her skate for the most part.
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She got her pictures hugging sad looking black people. She's done everything she could.
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AgLA06 said:

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Just let people be frustrated man. You're only making it worse. Let it go.


Imagine trying to play goalie for CP right now when a good amount of people are going on no power for day 5 now. Especially when they've got so many out of town crews here ready to rock & roll. Just absolutely unbelievable


What exactly do you expect to happen the week after a hurricane? Not just that, but the third event in 2 months?

I have no problem with people being frustrated. The last couple of months had sucked with the storms. My neighborhood was involved all 3. I just don't get all of this outrage that doesn't appear to have merit.

If the information being relayed is lies about how many have been restored than get out the pitch forks. Otherwise what taking place here isn't frustration, but just weird manifestation of hyper negativity. It's like y'all believe you've been personally wronged, but can't actually explain why.

The biggest difference to me is the downfall of social media. Just like this thread the majority of things posted aren't correct, people purposely choose to not believe what is correctly posted, and worse purposefully use it to fuel hate. With Ike this didn't exist.

People weren't sitting inside looking to be miserable and complain. We looked twice a day for updates and went out and volunteered and helped neighbors. People now look to find ways to amplify the negative where before we looked to find the positive in relationships built with neighbors while it took weeks to get power.

The comment about me on the golf board is correct and it's for the same reasons. I can't explain why the mob mentality gets under my skin, but I wish it didn't. I just hate when social media mobs go after people or companies to trt and ruin them or cost them their jobs only to shrug and walk away later like nothing happened when it turns out it was completely wrong. And yet the very people who justified their actions in the name of holding others accountable now strangely face no consequences for the jobs or companies they impacted.

I don't work or have anything to do with Centerpoint. I worked in capital projects in similar industries. I imagine there are a lot of Aggies who do work for them and I imagine there's real frustration for them in seeing things like this thread.




I mean I'm not sure how many countless posts from the news and actual lineman themselves you have to see with your own eyes before you actually start to believe them? There is documented photo & video evidence of workers just sitting there waiting. Lineman posting in FB & Instagram groups saying they're just sitting there. Cemtwrpoint is trying to strong arm these guys for pay while several hundred thousand people still do not have power. What seems like they've got things under control in your eyes? Genuinely curious.

It's not just about "being without power for a few days." There is a much bigger issue here as to why a lot of people are coming up on a week without power, and it sure as hell isn't because Cwnterpoint doesn't have the manpower ready to get everyone back on the grid.
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htxag09 said:

Our xfinity is back out this morning.

This may be a stupid thought….bit what are the odds this generator is plugged into the xfinity equipment and when it runs out of gas our internet goes down?

It's done in and out the last few days now



That's looks like some bs I'd try to engineer but hey at this point whatever works
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whiskey02 said:

By the way, anyone know if Harris County will be picking up tree stumps/debris?

I have plenty, and would like to not have to pay our southern friends to haul ot off.


https://www.readyharris.org/Resources/Beryl-Recovery-Resources
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Companies don't randomly send workers in hopes of getting paid. There are agreements long in place before disasters. You really think companies are going to send crews on overtime and per diem to sit in a parking lot for 5 days just because?

You're right in there being bigger issues if random companies did so.

https://www.entergynewsroom.com/storm-center/restoration/mutual-assistance/
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To me all the social media and investigative reporting stuff is just noise. The real question is how many people are being restored, that's all that matters. The second part is how well they're communicating.

For power restoration, if Ike is a baseline they're doing well. A lot better than 2008. I don't know if that is a good baseline or not. If you told me Houston would get winds comparable to Ike with most of the city on the dirty side and they'd have 85% of people back up in power within a week, I probably would have thought that was good. Hard to say in hindsight.

Where they are really falling down is communication. In communication perception is reality. They're doing such a bad job in PR that the reasonable / decent job they're doing in actual work is being seen as horrible.
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Zobel said:

To me all the social media and investigative reporting stuff is just noise. The real question is how many people are being restored, that's all that matters. The second part is how well they're communicating.

For power restoration, if Ike is a baseline they're doing well. A lot better than 2008. I don't know if that is a good baseline or not. If you told me Houston would get winds comparable to Ike with most of the city on the dirty side and they'd have 85% of people back up in power within a week, I probably would have thought that was good. Hard to say in hindsight.

Where they are really falling down is communication. In communication perception is reality. They're doing such a bad job in PR that the reasonable / decent job they're doing in actual work is being seen as horrible.


Great post.
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kelkel25 said:

htxag09 said:

Our xfinity is back out this morning.

This may be a stupid thought….bit what are the odds this generator is plugged into the xfinity equipment and when it runs out of gas our internet goes down?

It's done in and out the last few days now



That's looks like some bs I'd try to engineer but hey at this point whatever works

Update. It was definitely xfinity's generator powering their equipment. Just drove by and they were there taking it down as it now has CP power.

I appreciate the effort. Would have appreciated it more if they filled it up with gas more than once every two days.
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Still nothing. This has been a week of absolute hell with seemingly no end in sight.
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Or put in a ground terminal tied to natural gas for times like that.
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Being anywhere close to Ike is a disaster for Centerpoint. Had real examples of what would be vulnerable and they seemingly did nothing to harden the grid. Spending well below peers on tree maintenance in their easements should also be pushed much harder. That's a colossal failure.
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Oh, so now you want a utility to actually spend money to provide good service.?
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htxag09 said:

kelkel25 said:

htxag09 said:

Our xfinity is back out this morning.

This may be a stupid thought….bit what are the odds this generator is plugged into the xfinity equipment and when it runs out of gas our internet goes down?

It's done in and out the last few days now



That's looks like some bs I'd try to engineer but hey at this point whatever works

Update. It was definitely xfinity's generator powering their equipment. Just drove by and they were there taking it down as it now has CP power.

I appreciate the effort. Would have appreciated it more if they filled it up with gas more than once every two days.


Tell 'em to send it my way. I'll gas it up myself if I gets me internet for the first time since 4am Monday. My 3yo is turning into a little turd without an occasional Bluey break!
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ChrisHansen said:

Oh, so now you want a utility to actually spend money to provide good service.?


Not if it will cut into their corporate skybox to Houston sporting events. Can't expect the executives to give that up and live like normal Houstonians
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ChrisHansen said:

Being anywhere close to Ike is a disaster for Centerpoint.

It's a natural disaster. You aren't going to speak this into existence "because"

ChrisHansen said:

Had real examples of what would be vulnerable and they seemingly did nothing to harden the grid.


That's not correct. Maybe take a second and try to know reality.

ChrisHansen said:

Spending well below peers on tree maintenance in their easements should also be pushed much harder.


I don't believe for a second any person posting this wouldn't ne screaming about their bills if they propose this.

ChrisHansen said:

That's a colossal failure.


This is an emotional lashing out.

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People keep saying catch phrases like that but I'm not sure anyone actually has any idea what it would involve.

What does hardening the grid actually mean? I an an engineer that work in power gen (not distribution) and I honestly have no idea. Do you know?

The problem with electricity is its single point of failure. Doesn't matter if the whole grid is up, if one link in the circuit is down you don't have power. Without knowing what is actually driving outages - is it a high voltage? Medium? At switch stations? Last mile distribution? Transformers down? - and what is causing those - lightning strikes, winds, limbs? - it's hard to even hazard a guess as to what "hardening" means. Much less what that would cost.

Ok, so the response to that is yeah CP should know and communicate all of that. Do they know? Are they doing it? I don't know. But just handwaving about "harden the grid!" doesn't really mean much.

If I'm CP CEO the first thing I do is fire my entire PR team.
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ChrisHansen said:

Oh, so now you want a utility to actually spend money to provide good service.?


I'm not a huge fan of spending billions because people are mad. If it makes sense, sure. In this case hanging something like a generator is a huge safety issue not to mention way down the lists of the best ways to address the issue.

Tree trimming for example is something that is a zero sum game. Trim their trees? Sure.

Trim trees from personal property without charging those who own them? Nope. It's just going to grow back more vigorous.
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Like I said. You don't think they gathered a ton of data during Ike? They already said trees were the biggest problem this time around. Did you see their average money spent per customer on tree maintenance?
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More info, and phone number.
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It's their easement. They are legally allowed to take the tree down. How many times have you had a conversation that goes something like "I called Centerpoint and they won't do anything so not my problem" I'm not talking about a 60 ft pine coming the whole way down. But how many "small" limbs are causing huge problem.
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If anyone has a vacant mother in law suite or garage apartment please let me know
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Currently outside my house. I haven't been this happy to see a group of linemen since the '94 Wrecking Crew. Zip code 77096.


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Ike was 16 years ago and had a different path / effect. Houston has a ton more people today than then. Were the lessons learned from Ike implemented? Maybe? I don't know. It is possible that most of the outages were a different cause last time, and this time it's a different failure mode because they hardened the grid to the previous problem. Reliability for single point of failure systems sucks like that. Once you make one link stronger you find the next weakest link.

But let's be honest. They probably published a report and probably did a bunch of stuff post Ike, and probably have a grid hardening program, and there's probably a hundred page pdf out there we could go read. I'm not gonna read it and neither is 99% of the population. Again… communication failure.
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She's so well liked and respected by her colleagues, this will definitely work



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ChrisHansen said:

Like I said. You don't think they gathered a ton of data during Ike? They already said trees were the biggest problem this time around. Did you see their average money spent per customer on tree maintenance?
I was visiting my mother down in the RGV the week of the 4th. The craziest thing was occurring - crews were out the 3rd and 5th cutting down branches near powerlines in preparation for Beryl.

After the derecho, you think CP would say "hey, let's put a plan together to trim trees for the next 3 months for the peak of hurricane season."
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TRM said:

ChrisHansen said:

Like I said. You don't think they gathered a ton of data during Ike? They already said trees were the biggest problem this time around. Did you see their average money spent per customer on tree maintenance?
I was visiting my mother down in the RGV the week of the 4th. The craziest thing was occurring - crews were out the 3rd and 5th cutting down branches near powerlines in preparation for Beryl.

After the derecho, you think CP would say "hey, let's put a plan together to trim trees for the next 3 months for the peak of hurricane season."


As long as Biden gives them money so as not to cut into their billion dollar profits
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htxag09 said:

kelkel25 said:

htxag09 said:

Our xfinity is back out this morning.

This may be a stupid thought….bit what are the odds this generator is plugged into the xfinity equipment and when it runs out of gas our internet goes down?

It's done in and out the last few days now



That's looks like some bs I'd try to engineer but hey at this point whatever works

Update. It was definitely xfinity's generator powering their equipment. Just drove by and they were there taking it down as it now has CP power.

I appreciate the effort. Would have appreciated it more if they filled it up with gas more than once every two days.


My Xfinity is still kaput
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Guitarsoup said:

TRM said:

ChrisHansen said:

Like I said. You don't think they gathered a ton of data during Ike? They already said trees were the biggest problem this time around. Did you see their average money spent per customer on tree maintenance?
I was visiting my mother down in the RGV the week of the 4th. The craziest thing was occurring - crews were out the 3rd and 5th cutting down branches near powerlines in preparation for Beryl.

After the derecho, you think CP would say "hey, let's put a plan together to trim trees for the next 3 months for the peak of hurricane season."


As long as Biden gives them money so as not to cut into their billion dollar profits


It appears in addition to their current hardening plan they filed a hardening plan for 2025-2027
and are waiting on PUC approval.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/centerpoint-s-2-billion-resiliency-plan-means-19564891.php
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