There is a power line around the corner that is shredded, so I don't think we will have power any time soon. The tree is still on the lines.
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Their actions also seem to line up like it, which is a terrible plan.BBRex said:
One issue with Centerpoint (I hope, anyway) is the wording of their messages. Are they really waiting to send repair crews until they completely finish assessments? I don't think so, but that's how their messages read.
As always, the general rule (for non-costal communities) remains the same. Stay for a Cat 1 or Cat 2. More than likely get out of town for a Cat 3 (but can look at exact path), Cat 4 and Cat 5, get on out of dodge.JCA1 said:
I'm hesitant to even say this out loud, but if we get another hurricane this year, it's going to be a Rita situation all over again, only this time the woodlands, conroe, etc. will try to evacuate too. Gonna be a disaster of epic proportions.
I've been very lucky for every hurricane/flood/storm event...but the freezes are definitely the houston weather events that made me feel like "never again"...but ...what am I gonna do? Move to the Rainforest?
Didn't you burb out to Tomball once you got wife'd? Not sure we should even allow you on this board now.
High Functioning Moron said:
There is a power line around the corner that is shredded, so I don't think we will have power any time soon. The tree is still on the lines.
Which section / cross streets?
one of those events had nothing to do with centerpoint or city of houston infrastructureQuote:
But having 3 events less than 4 years just blows balls
we had an ice storm that knocked out power for 10+ days growing up
Rita took out power in SETX for like 3 weeks
it sucked. **** happens.
CDUB98 said:Their actions also seem to line up like it, which is a terrible plan.BBRex said:
One issue with Centerpoint (I hope, anyway) is the wording of their messages. Are they really waiting to send repair crews until they completely finish assessments? I don't think so, but that's how their messages read.
My impression of everything is that they are sending Centerpoint crews to assess, then assigning direct repair jobs to the out of state crews. OOS crews aren't getting dispatched without direct orders to repair something. I don't know if it's always that way everywhere. But the few interviews I've seen with OOS crews is that they are clearly waiting for individual assignments.
Ha! I grew up in San Antonio hating Houston. On its best days, it has a certain charm. The food is great, as are most of the people, for a city this size. It's definitely an economic powerhouse. But it's worst days suck major ass, and I don't blame anyone for moving. While I have my gripes, I have to admit Houston has grown on me a bit.
I'll be here a while, and I have a bigger generator on order. I'll weather the next one just like I am this one.
I'll be here a while, and I have a bigger generator on order. I'll weather the next one just like I am this one.
Hopefully this loads up - worth a watch comparing Ike to Beryl and CP's response and repair time.
Basically almost the same number of customers without power, Ike took 10 days to get 1.6M customers back on line
Beryl took 55 hours to get 1M
Basically almost the same number of customers without power, Ike took 10 days to get 1.6M customers back on line
Beryl took 55 hours to get 1M
Saw this in my hood too about 2 miles down the road on a main street. We got power back two nights ago, but this tree has been sitting on the lines since monday and a utility pole next to it is snapped in half. I am sure the businesses backing up to it arent happy either (Shell Gas Station, Dollar General, etc.) - Surprised the debris hasn't been cleared yet.High Functioning Moron said:
There is a power line around the corner that is shredded, so I don't think we will have power any time soon. The tree is still on the lines.
cone said:Anyone who knows my love for Houston knows how radical this idea is: I’m just not sure if I want to live here anymore.
— Alison Cook (@alisoncook) July 11, 2024
Three days without power
I'm sorry this is single ply soft
If you've lived here since 2000, you've lived through Allison, Rita evacuations, Ike, Harvey, The freeze, Derecho, and now Beryl.
Maybe this is earths way of saying people shouldn't live here. Family/friends in Austin, San Antonio, and Dallas haven't had to deal with any of this *****
Absolutely not. I work in Tomball. I live in the barrio of 2nd ward!!
cone said:one of those events had nothing to do with centerpoint or city of houston infrastructureQuote:
But having 3 events less than 4 years just blows balls
we had an ice storm that knocked out power for 10+ days growing up
Rita took out power in SETX for like 3 weeks
it sucked. **** happens.
It's actually 4 events, three in the last year. Again, it's not the fact that a hurricane knocked out power - that's to be expected. It's Centerpoint's absolutely terrible response, that has gotten WORSE with each event.
Of course you never send someone without an assignment, but what it seems like is they are assessing everything in a large area, then dispatching.jopatura said:CDUB98 said:Their actions also seem to line up like it, which is a terrible plan.BBRex said:
One issue with Centerpoint (I hope, anyway) is the wording of their messages. Are they really waiting to send repair crews until they completely finish assessments? I don't think so, but that's how their messages read.
My impression of everything is that they are sending Centerpoint crews to assess, then assigning direct repair jobs to the out of state crews. OOS crews aren't getting dispatched without direct orders to repair something. I don't know if it's always that way everywhere. But the few interviews I've seen with OOS crews is that they are clearly waiting for individual assignments.
The optimal thing to do would be to assess a circuit, or several in close proximity, and then send a team with an assignment. Rolls out the assignments in waves continuously rather than piling them up into one giant tsunami. From a construction standpoint, we call that piss poor planning on a good day.
I took the hint, but didn't make it out in time. Will be living in Arkansas next week.1876er said:cone said:Anyone who knows my love for Houston knows how radical this idea is: I’m just not sure if I want to live here anymore.
— Alison Cook (@alisoncook) July 11, 2024
Three days without power
I'm sorry this is single ply soft
If you've lived here since 2000, you've lived through Allison, Rita evacuations, Ike, Harvey, The freeze, Derecho, and now Beryl.
Maybe this is earths way of saying people shouldn't live here. Family/friends in Austin, San Antonio, and Dallas haven't had to deal with any of this *****
I was stranded at The Harp for Allison (no problem there), didn't evac for Rita, 14 days no power in Ike, lost it all in Harvey, did fine for 2 days during freeze, was on souf side for derecho, but have no power now. Mixed bag of misery, but enough.
The that was my thought, too. After assessing an area, send crews in to start repairs while you move on to assess the next area.
I thought you were going to say somewhere NICE like Colorado. Here you are dogging Houston because you are from SA???BBRex said:
Ha! I grew up in San Antonio hating Houston. On its best days, it has a certain charm. The food is great, as are most of the people, for a city this size. It's definitely an economic powerhouse. But it's worst days suck major ass, and I don't blame anyone for moving. While I have my gripes, I have to admit Houston has grown on me a bit.
I'll be here a while, and I have a bigger generator on order. I'll weather the next one just like I am this one.
come on now.
7nine
Tex117 said:As always, the general rule (for non-costal communities) remains the same. Stay for a Cat 1 or Cat 2. More than likely get out of town for a Cat 3 (but can look at exact path), Cat 4 and Cat 5, get on out of dodge.JCA1 said:
I'm hesitant to even say this out loud, but if we get another hurricane this year, it's going to be a Rita situation all over again, only this time the woodlands, conroe, etc. will try to evacuate too. Gonna be a disaster of epic proportions.
I was in Fort Worth getting my baby niece baptized on Sunday. My family could not understand why the Houston part of the family was hurricane tracking so we could make sure to get back in Houston in time for the storm. I'm glad we did though. I had a window break in my office that would have destroyed a very nice computer set up had I not heard the window shatter and gotten everything moved and the window covered (somewhat).
I haven't evacuated one yet. IMO, getting stuck on a highway in a storm is much scarier than sheltering in place with or with out power.
CDUB98 said:Of course you never send someone without an assignment, but what it seems like is they are assessing everything in a large area, then dispatching.jopatura said:CDUB98 said:Their actions also seem to line up like it, which is a terrible plan.BBRex said:
One issue with Centerpoint (I hope, anyway) is the wording of their messages. Are they really waiting to send repair crews until they completely finish assessments? I don't think so, but that's how their messages read.
My impression of everything is that they are sending Centerpoint crews to assess, then assigning direct repair jobs to the out of state crews. OOS crews aren't getting dispatched without direct orders to repair something. I don't know if it's always that way everywhere. But the few interviews I've seen with OOS crews is that they are clearly waiting for individual assignments.
The optimal thing to do would be to assess a circuit, or several in close proximity, and then send a team with an assignment. Rolls out the assignments in waves continuously rather than piling them up into one giant tsunami. From a construction standpoint, we call that piss poor planning on a good day.
Right, I don't think that's happening. CNP crews are assessing the city as a whole, then dispatching work crews as a whole. My understanding in other states they'll start in one corner, OOS crews will work for 8-10 hours straight slowly moving circuit to circuit then take a break when time is up. Here they are waiting for individual assignments where they might be "working" 4-6 hours out of the 8-10 hours and a lot of work time is sitting in the trucks.
I'm curious about why there has been power within 1/4 mile (maybe even a little closer) of my house since early Tuesday, so clearly crews in the area, but no one has addressed the down lines that are keeping my power out. I don't really understand why the crews that were here couldn't stay until the whole area had power.
To people who don't know any better, it seems like they are prioritizing and/or jumping around to the easy repairs. Which makes sense, but you'd think you'd want a crew to stay in one area until all repairs are complete.
If we didn't already have so much distrust in Centerpoint's competency, we wouldn't be questioning.
I sent my friend who does these repairs for a living pics of our damage, and she said it looked like a 3-4 hour job. Granted, she's Monday-morning quarterbacking, but it just all seems really disorganized and inefficient.
To people who don't know any better, it seems like they are prioritizing and/or jumping around to the easy repairs. Which makes sense, but you'd think you'd want a crew to stay in one area until all repairs are complete.
If we didn't already have so much distrust in Centerpoint's competency, we wouldn't be questioning.
I sent my friend who does these repairs for a living pics of our damage, and she said it looked like a 3-4 hour job. Granted, she's Monday-morning quarterbacking, but it just all seems really disorganized and inefficient.
I truly hope lots of people have had enough and leave this city. I don't mean a vast majority of people in this thread. I mean the people on Reddit and Twitter complaining constantly about how awful this place is, while they burden our infrastructure and vote awful leaders and judges into office, then expect these same people to bail them out. Please go, as many of you as possible. I hear California, New York, Chicago, and Seattle are all great places to live a life of socialist bliss.
But they won't because the cost of living combined with welfare is hard to beatProject Gemini said:
I truly hope lots of people have had enough and leave this city. I don't mean a vast majority of people in this thread. I mean the people on Reddit and Twitter complaining constantly about how awful this place is, while they burden our infrastructure and vote awful leaders and judges into office, then expect these same people to bail them out. Please go, as many of you as possible. I hear California, New York, Chicago, and Seattle are all great places to live a life of socialist bliss.
I'm in Maplewood (near Hillcroft/Braeswood). Several trucks rolled through my neighborhood on Tuesday afternoon. There were doing repairs on a larger transmission line. My neighbors and I asked them to see if they could also repair a downed neutral on the secondary line running behind my house. They looked at it and agreed it was a simple repair. They made the repair, closed the circuit and power was restored to my block and 1 block north and south. They said there was major damage to much of the secondary lines in other parts of my neighborhood and they were not equipped to make those repairs with what they had on their trucks. I'm not sure they would have fixed mine if we hadn't asked.Teddy Perkins said:
4 CP trucks spotted heading into the Meyerland area. Really hope we get power back today.
The majority of the neighborhood is still out. I'm happy for myself and feel bad for the rest of the neighborhood at the same time. It's a weird guilty feeling.
Niiiiiiice. Gotta love that 18 minute reverse commute.swimmerbabe11 said:
Absolutely not. I work in Tomball. I live in the barrio of 2nd ward!!
Don't bring facts into this
A real issue that's going to be increasingly hard for Houstonians is the economic cost to all these weather events - not just the hit to the local economy but to their bank accounts. My insurance just renewed with a 47% increase (after shopping it around) and my wind and hail deductible is now $15,000, up from $2,000 before the ice storm in 2021. That's a big check to cover before any insurance kicks in, and a lot of people - even responsible people - don't have that much saved up, and if they have to finance then rates are stupid. Even without major home damage there's trees and limbs to remove, siding and roofs to fix, fences to fix, lost food to replace. Running a generator for days or weeks has a significant fuel cost. We are clearly looking at rate increases for utilities after this is all done. It's just a lot, and it's going to get worse.
Normally I agree that **** happens. But its just been a sick triceratops amount of *****cone said:one of those events had nothing to do with centerpoint or city of houston infrastructureQuote:
But having 3 events less than 4 years just blows balls
we had an ice storm that knocked out power for 10+ days growing up
Rita took out power in SETX for like 3 weeks
it sucked. **** happens.
I half joked with the wife last night that we should find a place in the US that has less natural disasters as Centerpoint/ERCOT haven't instilled confidence that this won't happen again within the next 18 months from something. I absolutely detest cold and snow but I don't hear about places further north of Texas losing power for days at a time from their natural disasters.
Ia there a model in Europe we can look to?
I would take Colorado snow over Hurricanes.
Heads up for IAH. Lights along Will Clayton still out from 59 to airport. Not too bad but could see it being a cluster later.
TX04Aggie said:
Heads up for IAH. Lights along Will Clayton still out from 59 to airport. Not too bad but could see it being a cluster later.
Thanks for this, have to take my MIL to airport tomorrow.
Indeed.
Why doesn't CP use drones to assess? Do they really need a truck driving house to house?
Saw a bunch of FLC power trucks driving through Pearland.
14ish Pike bucket trucks sitting by the south side of Hobby this morning. They were in the same spot yesterday around lunch. Not saying they haven't moved but they're definitely in the same spot.
14ish Pike bucket trucks sitting by the south side of Hobby this morning. They were in the same spot yesterday around lunch. Not saying they haven't moved but they're definitely in the same spot.
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