Oh no doubt, I was being more facetious than anything as it's increasingly clear that if you are somewhat in shape and not 75+, you're going to be ok in almost all casesTXTransplant said:
I edited my post. IDK how many active teachers are age 65+, but it seems like it should be pretty easy to keep them out of the classroom.
I suspect there are significantly more teachers in the 55-64 age group, and who knows how many have "pre-existing conditions" over the entire range of ages.
I'm realizing, though, anyone who doesn't want to go back to work (for whatever reason) can probably get a "pre-existing condition" waiver from their doctor for something.
What does this mean? I am firmly in the pre-existing condition category and in my district I have 1 choice. Show up in person and teach. That or don't get paid. A doctors note wouldn't have anything to do with it.TXTransplant said:
I'm realizing, though, anyone who doesn't want to go back to work (for whatever reason) can probably get a "pre-existing condition" waiver from their doctor for something.
Right there with you. I'm not sure why the political left is given a pass like they have the franchise on compassion. In the spectrum of outcomes, the more power they have, the more misery people have to live through.third coast.. said:I have posted about it here relentlessly, but there are so many people in the school aged generation that are going to be hampered FOR LIFE by this, and most of those are the types of people that the left is always screaming about caring about. You keep someone already on the edge of society and learning out to pasture for an entire year+, they arent coming back, ever. The hill is insurmountable. It is so sad that there are going to be so many young lives destroyed forever because orange man bad. Seriously. It really bums me out.The TC Jester said:I hear you, but the degree of societal sacrifice is unprecedented in modern times. Countless jobs lost and livelihoods destroyed. Significant spike in anxiety/depression/suicide/addiction. So many businesses closed for good. The fallout could last for years. This is f*cked.Seersucker Ag 2011 said:The TC Jester said:
Open it all up and let people get it if they want. If you are at-risk, mask up, wear a face shield and gloves...or just hunker down. But don't ask us to keep suffocating businesses and our economy and making countless lives miserable. This is f-ing ridiculous.
OF COURSE cases are going to rise as we open things up. They need to.
You're acting like it's new that a majority of people have to change everything and sacrifice their own rights to make a small minority of people feel better.
I wish i had access to the article i have posted a number of times that i stole from someone else posting it, but teachers basically admitted that they stopped wanting to teach when Trump and Devos started pushing for schools to open. It also talks about how much damage it is doing to those already haivng issues with school and those who have rfamilies that dont care like yours or mine may.
This is simply going to cause people that may have been able to pull themselves out of the welfare class to be stuck there forever. I am about as right as they get, but i actually DO care about these kids who are getting their shot at life and a good education ripped out from under them. It is so sad and upsetting and unfair.
WES2006AG said:What does this mean? I am firmly in the pre-existing condition category and in my district I have 1 choice. Show up in person and teach. That or don't get paid. A doctors note wouldn't have anything to do with it.TXTransplant said:
I'm realizing, though, anyone who doesn't want to go back to work (for whatever reason) can probably get a "pre-existing condition" waiver from their doctor for something.
TXTransplant said:
Edit: reread your post and you said it's teach or don't get paid. Wouldn't this be the situation if you couldn't go to work for a medical reason that is not related to COVID?
I don't know what would happen if lawsuits were filed and this went to court but it is my understanding that if I were unwilling to come to campus because of a fear of COVID due to having a pre-existing condition that I would burn through my sick days and vacation and then stop receiving a paycheck.TXTransplant said:WES2006AG said:What does this mean? I am firmly in the pre-existing condition category and in my district I have 1 choice. Show up in person and teach. That or don't get paid. A doctors note wouldn't have anything to do with it.TXTransplant said:
I'm realizing, though, anyone who doesn't want to go back to work (for whatever reason) can probably get a "pre-existing condition" waiver from their doctor for something.
The comment wasn't specifically aimed at teachers. Just a general realization that there will be some people who don't go back to work (and are accommodated accordingly, when possible) based on a doctor's recommendation.
Out of curiosity for your specific case - what is the alternative if you choose to not teach in person? Are you out on in-paid leave, or is your employment terminated?
I have wondered over the past few months if districts can terminate teachers who can't teach in person. Seems like a pre-existing condition would qualify you for protection under the ADA and you could take FMLA and/or disability leave.
Edit: reread your post and you said it's teach or don't get paid. Wouldn't this be the situation if you couldn't go to work for a medical reason that is not related to COVID?
Silky Johnston said:TXTransplant said:
Edit: reread your post and you said it's teach or don't get paid. Wouldn't this be the situation if you couldn't go to work for a medical reason that is not related to COVID?
Yes, if you have a medical condition and are too sick to work or are getting treatment you are protected by FMLA. But these people don't have COVID, they just have an irrational fear that they are going to get it. You don't get FMLA because you THINK you are going to get cancer.
WES2006AG said:I don't know what would happen if lawsuits were filed and this went to court but it is my understanding that if I were unwilling to come to campus because of a fear of COVID due to having a pre-existing condition that I would burn through my sick days and vacation and then stop receiving a paycheck.TXTransplant said:WES2006AG said:What does this mean? I am firmly in the pre-existing condition category and in my district I have 1 choice. Show up in person and teach. That or don't get paid. A doctors note wouldn't have anything to do with it.TXTransplant said:
I'm realizing, though, anyone who doesn't want to go back to work (for whatever reason) can probably get a "pre-existing condition" waiver from their doctor for something.
The comment wasn't specifically aimed at teachers. Just a general realization that there will be some people who don't go back to work (and are accommodated accordingly, when possible) based on a doctor's recommendation.
Out of curiosity for your specific case - what is the alternative if you choose to not teach in person? Are you out on in-paid leave, or is your employment terminated?
I have wondered over the past few months if districts can terminate teachers who can't teach in person. Seems like a pre-existing condition would qualify you for protection under the ADA and you could take FMLA and/or disability leave.
Edit: reread your post and you said it's teach or don't get paid. Wouldn't this be the situation if you couldn't go to work for a medical reason that is not related to COVID?
We have had teachers who were told that was their option and they chose to resign as a result. I am not saying that we should pay teachers who are unwilling to teach but at least in my experience there is no alternative to being in-person on a daily basis.
Cromagnum said:
Dora was on the news talking about how she voted for Biden and Harris because we need someone that doesn't play games with the virus. How hypocritical can one be?
gougler08 said:
Why is a democrat county judge voting for a democrat presidential nominee news? No ****
cant motorboat charismacone said:
she's got zero charisma
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