chimpanzee said:

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TXTransplant said:

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CowtownAg06 said:

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I get the point you're trying to make. People shouldn't get too riled up about Sly's moving target b/c it has little authority. However, that is really missing the point. There are plenty of schools, churches, businesses, and individuals who are looking for guidance and don't follow/understand this stuff well. The listen to local leaders rhetoric is strong.

I just want want our leaders to tell the truth and lead. This goes to all reaches of government and ideological tribes.

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Well said, and I would hope we can all agree with your last two points.

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At the very least, we should have been able to trust the information and data coming from the Houston Health Department and the Harris County Public Health Departments.

Politicians are partisan; public health departments and their staff should not be. But I've felt for months that Turner and Hildalgo are influencing the tone of the message coming out of both organizations. Not to mention, the data both agencies report has been suspect, at best.

Then you have the Med Center data that everyone in authority is conveniently ignoring, at least as long as the trends have been moving away from threat level Everybody Panic.

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And still many questions about the med center data that no one will ask or answer like proportions of admits "with" instead of "for", levels of PCR test amplification, etc. .

It took a few actual smart and semi-anonymous data analysts on twitter hammering at media long enough to get a Bloomberg article published before CoH/Harris County stopped reporting obviously misleading information.

I can not understand any level of trust in a politician of any stripe at this point. Public health departments still answer to politicians and are going to be as self interested as everyone else on the planet. What good does it do you personally to throw yourself in front of someone with no obvious talent or intellect that nevertheless managed to become mayor of the third largest city in the US?

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TXTransplant said:

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chimpanzee said:

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TXTransplant said:

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Fitch said:

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CowtownAg06 said:

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I get the point you're trying to make. People shouldn't get too riled up about Sly's moving target b/c it has little authority. However, that is really missing the point. There are plenty of schools, churches, businesses, and individuals who are looking for guidance and don't follow/understand this stuff well. The listen to local leaders rhetoric is strong.

I just want want our leaders to tell the truth and lead. This goes to all reaches of government and ideological tribes.

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Well said, and I would hope we can all agree with your last two points.

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At the very least, we should have been able to trust the information and data coming from the Houston Health Department and the Harris County Public Health Departments.

Politicians are partisan; public health departments and their staff should not be. But I've felt for months that Turner and Hildalgo are influencing the tone of the message coming out of both organizations. Not to mention, the data both agencies report has been suspect, at best.

Then you have the Med Center data that everyone in authority is conveniently ignoring, at least as long as the trends have been moving away from threat level Everybody Panic.

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And still many questions about the med center data that no one will ask or answer like proportions of admits "with" instead of "for", levels of PCR test amplification, etc. .

It took a few actual smart and semi-anonymous data analysts on twitter hammering at media long enough to get a Bloomberg article published before CoH/Harris County stopped reporting obviously misleading information.

I can not understand any level of trust in a politician of any stripe at this point. Public health departments still answer to politicians and are going to be as self interested as everyone else on the planet. What good does it do you personally to throw yourself in front of someone with no obvious talent or intellect that nevertheless managed to become mayor of the third largest city in the US?

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Oh, I don't know...professional integrity, maybe? But your point is correct considering no one with any power or authority seems to have been an ounce of that anymore.

It's just frustrating when people who are supposed to be "experts" in their field start supporting political ideology instead of science and data.

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Politicians are partisan; public health departments and their staff should not be.

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Charlie Kelley said:

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****in morons from the city came out and put tape back up at our neighborhood park. What a joke

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Just tear that **** down.

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Seersucker Ag 2011 said:

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Fort Bend bars are open. See you ITL folks out here in the burbs soon.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/10/13/judge-expected-to-make-announcement-on-bars-in-fort-bend-county/%3FoutputType%3Damp

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Good. Made me feel sad last week driving past the Stafford Ice House and not seeing a single old man stumbling in the parking lot in daylight.

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cone said:

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which park by the way?

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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I just got a negative test. my coworker tested positive though...should be interesting to see how we manage it

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Every person in Texas shall wear a face covering over the nose and mouth when inside a commercial entity or other building or space open to the public, or when in an outdoor public space, wherever it is not feasible to maintain six feet of social distancing from another person not in the same household; provided, however, that this face-covering requirement does not apply to the following...any person who is voting, assisting a voter, serving as a poli watcher, or actively administering an election, but wearing a face covering is strongly encouraged;

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