Jet Black said:
Two week shutdown accomplishes nothing significant.
terradactylexpress said:Jet Black said:
Two week shutdown accomplishes nothing significant.
Totally agree, if you are going to shut down it needs to be long enough to hammer the cases down and accompanied with financial support and a plan to keep the cases low or else it's just insanity
Nitro Power said:
And where the hell is this financial support coming from? I don't know about the rest of you all, but I'm tired of paying taxes out the ass and getting absolutely o support from anything or anyone. People considering/supporting a shutdown need to keep this **** in mind.
terradactylexpress said:Jet Black said:
Two week shutdown accomplishes nothing significant.
Totally agree, if you are going to shut down it needs to be long enough to hammer the cases down and accompanied with financial support and a plan to keep the cases low or else it's just insanity
cc_ag92 said:
Maybe someone else has responded, but just in case they haven't.... Houston teachers report August 10th. We're 28 days away from that, not 45.
To me the flaw in that is we have to trust those who have been exposed to the virus to take the precautions necessary to not go about spreading it so we can participate in what we think is low risk activities. My mom spent the past weekend going on bike rides with friends, hitting up grocery stores, going to neighbors houses despite the fact that she lives with my dad who is currently COVID positive. Her excuse is that she isnt showing any symptoms so she probably doesn't have it. Any she very well may not. She also could be putting a bunch of late middle aged people at risk.TXTransplant said:
And no matter what kind of shutdown you implement, you're always going to have people who do this...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party.amp
This is why you just let everyone decide for themselves. If people can choose to engage in high-risk behavior, then the rest of us should each be able to choose what level of risk is acceptable for ourselves and our families.
So this anecdotal story is why everyone is dumb and we should leave it to the government to blanket everyone with one solution. Got it.cajunaggie08 said:To me the flaw in that is we have to trust those who have been exposed to the virus to take the precautions necessary to not go about spreading it so we can participate in what we think is low risk activities. My mom spent the past weekend going on bike rides with friends, hitting up grocery stores, going to neighbors houses despite the fact that she lives with my dad who is currently COVID positive. Her excuse is that she isnt showing any symptoms so she probably doesn't have it. Any she very well may not. She also could be putting a bunch of late middle aged people at risk.TXTransplant said:
And no matter what kind of shutdown you implement, you're always going to have people who do this...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party.amp
This is why you just let everyone decide for themselves. If people can choose to engage in high-risk behavior, then the rest of us should each be able to choose what level of risk is acceptable for ourselves and our families.
My anecdotal story is to remind you that people is dumb and putting trust in people to do the right thing is nothing more than hopeful wishing. Putting trust in people to do the right thing is why our hospitals are extra crowded.BohunkAg said:So this anecdotal story is why everyone is dumb and we should leave it to the government to blanket everyone with one solution. Got it.cajunaggie08 said:To me the flaw in that is we have to trust those who have been exposed to the virus to take the precautions necessary to not go about spreading it so we can participate in what we think is low risk activities. My mom spent the past weekend going on bike rides with friends, hitting up grocery stores, going to neighbors houses despite the fact that she lives with my dad who is currently COVID positive. Her excuse is that she isnt showing any symptoms so she probably doesn't have it. Any she very well may not. She also could be putting a bunch of late middle aged people at risk.TXTransplant said:
And no matter what kind of shutdown you implement, you're always going to have people who do this...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party.amp
This is why you just let everyone decide for themselves. If people can choose to engage in high-risk behavior, then the rest of us should each be able to choose what level of risk is acceptable for ourselves and our families.
You are right....it's a novel virus. Unless, there's a vaccine a lockdown is worthless. And no vaccine seems to be forthcoming. Anyone pushing for a lockdown is just silly....especially those wanting to close restaurants....that has the potential to be an economy killer.FPS_Dough said:
A lockdown just delays the inevitable we locked for 3 months yet here we are.
cajunaggie08 said:To me the flaw in that is we have to trust those who have been exposed to the virus to take the precautions necessary to not go about spreading it so we can participate in what we think is low risk activities. My mom spent the past weekend going on bike rides with friends, hitting up grocery stores, going to neighbors houses despite the fact that she lives with my dad who is currently COVID positive. Her excuse is that she isnt showing any symptoms so she probably doesn't have it. Any she very well may not. She also could be putting a bunch of late middle aged people at risk.TXTransplant said:
And no matter what kind of shutdown you implement, you're always going to have people who do this...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party.amp
This is why you just let everyone decide for themselves. If people can choose to engage in high-risk behavior, then the rest of us should each be able to choose what level of risk is acceptable for ourselves and our families.
https://www.redbubble.com/i/mask/Paull-Wall-Grill-by-renerez/47755911.9G0D8Milwaukees Best Light said:
Rather than force this mask stuff on us, if they would have done a positive marketing campaign from the start I think it would been more effective and less negative sentiment towards local officials. If you get JJ Watt, Correa, Verlander, Paul Wall, Bun B, Harden and Westbrook all in a commercial showing off masks, maybe have some sham fashion mask contest or some other way to make it cool, the populace would have jumped on it. Have Mask of the Day or something like that in the Chron or channel 2 app. Put up an award for best mask design, then make a couple thousand and give them away. There are plenty of ways to make this cool, but no, lets go with wear a mask or get a ticket.
Right...there was behavior like this going on during the first lockdown....I would except more of it during a second one because people are just tired of all of it at this point. The mask rule, while burdensome is probably the way to go. And you won't slow the progression overnight. That's the problem. All these politicos see the cases rising and want an immediate fix....hey there's not one.TXTransplant said:cajunaggie08 said:To me the flaw in that is we have to trust those who have been exposed to the virus to take the precautions necessary to not go about spreading it so we can participate in what we think is low risk activities. My mom spent the past weekend going on bike rides with friends, hitting up grocery stores, going to neighbors houses despite the fact that she lives with my dad who is currently COVID positive. Her excuse is that she isnt showing any symptoms so she probably doesn't have it. Any she very well may not. She also could be putting a bunch of late middle aged people at risk.TXTransplant said:
And no matter what kind of shutdown you implement, you're always going to have people who do this...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party.amp
This is why you just let everyone decide for themselves. If people can choose to engage in high-risk behavior, then the rest of us should each be able to choose what level of risk is acceptable for ourselves and our families.
I agree with you about the flaw, but another shutdown isn't going to fix this. I don't envision one where someone isn't allowed to go to the grocery store, to neighbors' houses, or on bike rides.
Your mom opted to engage in risky behavior (based on her circumstances). The friends/neighbors she interacted with also chose to do so.
Was she honest with her friends and neighbors about your dad being +? If so, then it's on them because it was their choice to visit with her. And it's not the government's place to tell them not to, and they can't really prevent this kind of behavior anyway.
Don't give them any ideasQuote:
Without contract tracing a lockdown is pointless.
TXTransplant said:
If there are people who don't care enough to protect their own friends/neighbors from a known infection, then the government stepping in isn't going to change that.
