BCSWguru said:

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It's not that hard. The people don't want it. Read the room.

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Loud voices on an Internet forum don't mean "the people".

PS3D said:

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BCSWguru said:

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It's not that hard. The people don't want it. Read the room.

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Loud voices on an Internet forum ***usually***don't mean "the people".

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FTFY-
In this case though it appears it does.

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/texas-voters-split-top-races-oppose-data-centers-flock-style-cameras

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Texans have strong feelings about data centers and license plate reader cameras

Voters were asked about two hot topics in today's political landscape: data centers and license plate reader cameras and were overwhelmingly against both.

The poll asked voters if they supported a local data center ban, and 54.7% of voters said they supported a ban, while 37.% said they were against a ban. The numbers were similar when asked if they would support or oppose new data centers if certain safeguards were in place. Again, 54.2% of voters were against data centers, while 37.9% supported data centers.

Automatic license plate readers had even less support from voters, with only 28.1% supporting ALPRs such as Flock.

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PS3D said:

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BCSWguru said:

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It's not that hard. The people don't want it. Read the room.

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Loud voices on an Internet forum don't mean "the people".

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Seems odd then why Yancy seems to come here to talk to "the people"

BQ_90 said:

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PS3D said:

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BCSWguru said:

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It's not that hard. The people don't want it. Read the room.

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Loud voices on an Internet forum don't mean "the people".

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Seems odd then why Yancy seems to come here to talk to "the people"

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Because it affords me the opportunity to engage with the citizen bosses. Because for every person communicating there are a couple of hundred or more reading. Because I want to know thoughts from objective folks and a lot of times (certainly not all the time) I can get that here. Because local policy is every bit as important as federal and state level policymaking and this platform has a focus on my city. Most of the people on the Aggieland forum live here and care about local- even when we disagree.

And also because it's fair for the citizens to know what I'm thinking, too. Because I'd rather go home and play more golf and do more woodwork and visit more with my grandkids, than to get elected on false pretenses.

In its own way- it's the most efficacious communications platform available to someone trying to represent 132,000 humans.

Have a great Labor Day Weekend, everyone. Going to go spend some time with family.

Yall be kind and civil to one another, will ya?

Respectfully

Yancy '95
Go Aggies!

I believe BQ 90 was being facetious in his response to PS3D

Bob Yancy said:

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BQ_90 said:

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PS3D said:

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BCSWguru said:

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It's not that hard. The people don't want it. Read the room.

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Loud voices on an Internet forum don't mean "the people".

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Seems odd then why Yancy seems to come here to talk to "the people"

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Because it affords me the opportunity to engage with the citizen bosses. Because for every person communicating there are a couple of hundred or more reading. Because I want to know thoughts from objective folks and a lot of times (certainly not all the time) I can get that here. Because local policy is every bit as important as federal and state level policymaking and this platform has a focus on my city. Most of the people on the Aggieland forum live here and care about local- even when we disagree.

And also because it's fair for the citizens to know what I'm thinking, too. Because I'd rather go home and play more golf and do more woodwork and visit more with my grandkids, than to get elected on false pretenses.

In its own way- it's the most efficacious communications platform available to someone trying to represent 132,000 humans.

Have a great Labor Day Weekend, everyone. Going to go spend some time with family.

Yall be kind and civil to one another, will ya?

Respectfully

Yancy '95
Go Aggies!

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One thing to note, that may not be 37,000 unique visitors, just views. 1000 people looking at the same page multiple times can rack up a high view count.

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maroon barchetta said:

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I believe BQ 90 was being facetious in his response to PS3D

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I can never tell. There's so many bad attempts at "humor" and so many abysmal opinions (not specifically in this thread, that's another whole issue) that I have to take just about every post here with a grain of salt.

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Aren't you the guy that started the thread saying we needed more obnoxious signs in our town? And you are criticizing other posters?

From the Battalion

https://thebatt.com/news/college-station-city-council-to-vote-on-400000-flock-safety-contract/

MarkPro said:

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From the Battalion

https://thebatt.com/news/college-station-city-council-to-vote-on-400000-flock-safety-contract/

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The article fails to mention that Abbott has since rescinded that grant for flock.

The Battalion article is less than a week after Abbot blocked state agencies from paying out grants for Flock (Friday, August 28th -- apparently under pressure from the Tribune).

The grant money that was used to pay previous Flock contracts wasn't 'rescinded', anyway, just blocked agencies from paying out any further grants. So presumably this means any contract renewal will mean College Station having to use more College Station money to pay for Flock cameras.

But I don't think the city has commented on this yet. The contract renewal isn't on the agenda for the meeting this week, so I guess we should expect to see it discussed on Sept 24th?

I wonder if by that point, Abbot will have followed DeSantis and banned license plate reading cameras from state highways.

Umm, yeah.

He wants to be on the leading edge of news.

I see some shake ups with official "positions" coming. It's election season and none of these parasites want to get a real job after getting voted out

And another one bites the dust

https://www.kbtx.com/2026/09/09/bastrop-city-council-votes-terminate-flock-contract-prevent-similar-cameras-future/

Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

~Thomas Jefferson~

Based on this forum topic, College Station mayoral candidate Bob Yancy is pro Flock cameras, but with safeguards that he has identified. (Did he identify these safeguards using his health-care/medical-technology business background, or did he consult with someone in a more relevant field?) These safeguards will likely never be implemented or work. Abuse of this mass surveillance system is too big a temptation for the individual, much less for public or private institutions. It's a trade for minimal security at the expense of our privacy and liberty.

Where does the other mayoral candidate, Elizabeth Cunha, stand on the issue?

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Based on this forum topic, College Station mayoral candidate Bob Yancy is pro Flock cameras, but with safeguards that he has identified. (Did he identify these safeguards using his health-care/medical-technology business background, or did he consult with someone in a more relevant field?) These safeguards will likely never be implemented or work. Abuse of this mass surveillance system is too big a temptation for the individual, much less for public or private institutions. It's a trade for minimal security at the expense of our privacy and liberty.

Where does the other mayoral candidate, Elizabeth Cunha, stand on the issue?

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This is an interesting first Texags post, Zigag09. Please don't characterize my position, as we'll be voting on September 24. I continue to evaluate Flock and my position has not changed at this time.

Thank you kindly.

Yancy '95

Yeah rookie accounts especially with little or no post activity are always suspicious to me.

EliteElectric said:

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Yeah rookie accounts especially with little or no post activity are always suspicious to me.

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Especially around election time.

This is an old video, but I had never seen it. One of the cases from Bexar county sheriffs using ALPRs to pattern citizens and knowingly violate the hell out of the 4th amendment. And then lying their tails off to make it all look legit. Anyone that thinks ALPRs are only used for locating real criminals needs to watch this on repeat. Blatant targeting of people that have done nothing wrong.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1451221780337935

Bob Yancy said:

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This is an interesting first Texags post, Zigag09. Please don't characterize my position, as we'll be voting on September 24. I continue to evaluate Flock and my position has not changed at this time.

Thank you kindly.

Yancy '95

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It could be someone associated with your rivals campaign. Or it could be someone that finally saw a subject that made it worth them signing up and posting for a first time.

Personally, I would like to know every candidate's position on ALPRs. It gives a good impression of how they view individual liberties and the constitution as a whole. It lets us know how they might react to other important issues in the future.

Bob, I'm really hoping you come out in open opposition and vote no on renewing the contract. Even though I'm sometimes critical on here, I was a big supporter of yours. But, no way am I voting for someone that votes to keep these things around. I know I'm just one vote but I suspect there's a lot of other people that would feel like this would be a large stain on your record.

Bob Yancy said:

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zigag09 said:

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Based on this forum topic, College Station mayoral candidate Bob Yancy is pro Flock cameras, but with safeguards that he has identified. (Did he identify these safeguards using his health-care/medical-technology business background, or did he consult with someone in a more relevant field?) These safeguards will likely never be implemented or work. Abuse of this mass surveillance system is too big a temptation for the individual, much less for public or private institutions. It's a trade for minimal security at the expense of our privacy and liberty.

Where does the other mayoral candidate, Elizabeth Cunha, stand on the issue?

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This is an interesting first Texags post, Zigag09. Please don't characterize my position, as we'll be voting on September 24. I continue to evaluate Flock and my position has not changed at this time.

Thank you kindly.

Yancy '95

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Glad you are interested in hearing from a College Station citizen that doesn't want to be constantly surveilled in their own city. You know who else likes to surveille its population for law and order? China. They are the undisputed world leader in mass surveillance, but we are catching up with programs like Flock.

Looks like we'll see where you end up on this issue on September 24th.

Still would like to know where Elizabeth Cunha stands on the issue.

This thread is as much comedy as it is information.

CS78 said:

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Bob Yancy said:

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This is an interesting first Texags post, Zigag09. Please don't characterize my position, as we'll be voting on September 24. I continue to evaluate Flock and my position has not changed at this time.

Thank you kindly.

Yancy '95

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Bob, I'm really hoping you come out in open opposition and vote no on renewing the contract. Even though I'm sometimes critical on here, I was a big supporter of yours. But, no way am I voting for someone that votes to keep these things around. I know I'm just one vote but I suspect there's a lot of other people that would feel like this would be a large stain on your record.

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I would hope Mr. Yancy, whatever his vote is, is a thoughtful and meaningful one.

This page has gone for 13 pages and the most convincing anti-Flock argument I've seen is "if this worked, then why isn't every stolen vehicle immediately located?"

Posting stories of LEOs abusing ALPRs...that's not good, but that's not a reason to yank Flock funding. What, are you going to demand that they defund public schools because you read articles about some teacher having an inappropriate relationship? (Obviously not, but it's the same line of thinking).

Regarding funding for ALPRs, but is it not true that the police officers per capita for College Station is lower than average for a city of this size, and, if so, could that money be better spent on actually hiring more police officers?

So our Constitutional rights are not a good enough reason to get rid of them? Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves at what people, who probably consider themselves as patriots, are defending.

Remember, we were told earlier in the thread by one sitting councilman and one candidate for council that they trust the police department employees.

Also remember, the same police department refuses to turn over body cam footage of a no-knock raid that resulted in the shooting death of a person who was not a suspect.

This is in a city where employees refused to give requested information to said sitting councilman about a failed potential business deal for the Macy's property with a local entrepreneur. A TexAgs poster had to get that info with a FOIA request.

Trust is earned. I'm not sure why we would trust the city to properly use Flock data. Especially given the daily reports in the news of police departments around the country having employees improperly use Flock data.