Ask Councilman Yancy how his request for info on the Macy's/Jim Lewis change went.
Here's a tip: city employees do not fear the council.
Here's a tip: city employees do not fear the council.
maroon barchetta said:
Another day, another instance of an LEO misusing Flock data.
But I'm sure it could not happen here.
EriktheRed said:
Question for people smarter than me....with all the cities seemingly weekly dropping Flock, and the daily abuse news stories, how long before the State axes them like they did red light cams?
That seems like a logical outcome, or at least campaigning on the issue. Or is there a political reason not to do that yet?
I understand the conflict of City Councils not wanting to go against their Police force, but it seems that conflict goes away if the State takes a stand
Valen said:
Nobody is perfect. I have watched CSPD hold officers accountable, and they offer a level of transparency most departments don't. You raised examples I don't dismiss, I also don't have all the facts, so I'm not going to pass judgment from the outside.
I'm talking about the Flock systems. If I catch heat for saying I support and trust CSPD, so be it. That is not a position I will waver on. Everyone should be held accountable. If something happened while I was on council, I would demand that accountability.
Valen said:
I don't do yes or no's - nothing in this world is that simple.
I'd want to read what the repercussions of breaking the contract were. If it is mitigated and there is a legal plausible way to break the contract then it's a yes end the contract.
Last thing I'd want it to put a target on the back of the city in terms of a lawsuit from flock and waist tax payer dollars.
If I was on council I would not renew the contract. If there was a way to cancel it without repercussions, I'd cancel it.
birdman said:Valen said:
Nobody is perfect. I have watched CSPD hold officers accountable, and they offer a level of transparency most departments don't. You raised examples I don't dismiss, I also don't have all the facts, so I'm not going to pass judgment from the outside.
I'm talking about the Flock systems. If I catch heat for saying I support and trust CSPD, so be it. That is not a position I will waver on. Everyone should be held accountable. If something happened while I was on council, I would demand that accountability.
You may support unequivocally, but the voters you are hoping to win over do not.
Accountable? How would anybody know? If nobody checks the police but themselves - there is no accountability.
EFR said:
Sometimes things ARE that simple. Many people, myself included, are tired of people seeking office who cannot answer a yes or no question and refuse to vote for them.
b0ridi said:
And to be fair, one of the other candidates for the same city council position was asked similar questions a few days ago on here and didn't respond.
Valen said:
I'm 100% happy to answer your questions, but I woefully disagree that any part of it is simple. Every decision we make as councilman have ramifications and if you're not looking at the big picture or the whole board then you're likely to make similar mistakes like Macy's.
I fully understand I'm not going to earn everyone's vote and I'm not going to make decisions that 100% everyone agrees with. However, I will always try to be honest and have integrity.
Ask me anything you'd like, just don't dictate to me how I'm allowed to answer the questions.
Hornbeck said:
He seems to not understand how it works.
Hornbeck said:
He seems to not understand how it works.
Bob Yancy said:
I can confirm the Flock contract will be heard in just over two weeks when we deliberate renewal, or cancellation.
Just fyi
Respectfully
Yancy '95