Buford T. Justice said:

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I'll be damned. They lived in "that house."
You know the one that looks like either the Munsters or Adams Family must have lived there years ago.

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damiond said:

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do we know if it was an upstairs or downstairs apartment because iirc the front door of the upstairs apartments open up to a stairway and the residents may have only heard commotion and could not discern the police announcement

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trouble said:

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Do we know all those things though? I've seen a couple people here posting that but not in any reports I've read.

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damiond said:

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deputy city manager jeff capps says no body cam footage will be released in the future in todays interview
https://wtaw.com/city-of-college-station-update-on-wtaw-163/

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Stupe said:

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You consider the reactions of families in these situations as reliable?

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Stupe said:

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What will you be able to tell? I'm not being sarcastic.

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Koko Chingo said:

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damiond said:

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deputy city manager jeff capps says no body cam footage will be released in the future in todays interview
https://wtaw.com/city-of-college-station-update-on-wtaw-163/

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I believe the lack of transparency in the CSPD will come back to bite the chief. I am not specifically saying in this case; but, eventually.

99% or more of the body cam footage out their shows police in a good way; or in a way that make you see the challenges they face. The videos usually show police officers having a great deal of patience and restraint.

Those videos released on the regular help establish credibility. If an officer does ever get out of line; CSPD's history of not releasing footage would look like they were covering up. If there was a history of released footage, they can say its just one bad actor.

We had a suspicious death a couple of weeks ago at Wolf Pen Creek….. where is the update? All of these things happening with the PD saying, "There is no threat to the public" is getting old. Especially when dead bodies are found, -- in public.

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Stupe said:

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What will you be able to tell? I'm not being sarcastic.

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How much scrutiny the death should have. Their response could be anywhere from saying nothing, to lawyering up and screaming from the rooftops to release the tape. I am not saying you believe everything they say, but you can infer infromation from the response whatever it may be.

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gettingitdone said:

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CSPD doesn't owe the public the body cam footage.

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The cops work in the public's name and use the public tax dollars to do it. They have authority because the public has delegated the authority to them. It is our responsibility, even our duty, to hold them accountable for their actions taken under that authority. In this case someone ended up dead, the ultimate deprivation of freedom. Bringing in an independent agency to investigate is a great move. Immediate suspension with pay is a great move. But neither of those things change where CSPD draws its authority from, or who is ultimately responsible for their actions.

The only reason to withhold footage is if it will affect the outcome of an ongoing investigation. This same principle was exercised when they withheld information that may have affected raids the next day. No problem. But we're past that now. A policy of never releasing body cam footage is in direct violation of the Texas Public Information Act. There is a loophole in that law where if no one is convicted, they don't have to released, so in this case, as long as they don't charge anyone in relation to this raid (or the other raids that were part of this investigation), they could exercise the loophole. It is unfortunate that they could possibly exercise a loophole due to killing the person that would have otherwise been charged and convicted.

And for the record, I think the footage will show the exemplary conduct of the CSPD, but that makes no difference in whether the public should be afforded the opportunity to review it.

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Stupe said:

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Another Doug said:

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Stupe said:

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What will you be able to tell? I'm not being sarcastic.

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How much scrutiny the death should have. Their response could be anywhere from saying nothing, to lawyering up and screaming from the rooftops to release the tape. I am not saying you believe everything they say, but you can infer infromation from the response whatever it may be.

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No, you can't. We have seen that happen even when it's obvious the person was a threat to the public.

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Another Doug said:

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Stupe said:

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Another Doug said:

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Stupe said:

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What will you be able to tell? I'm not being sarcastic.

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How much scrutiny the death should have. Their response could be anywhere from saying nothing, to lawyering up and screaming from the rooftops to release the tape. I am not saying you believe everything they say, but you can infer infromation from the response whatever it may be.

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No, you can't. We have seen that happen even when it's obvious the person was a threat to the public.

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I can, and I will. Your logic is a slippery slope, there have been cases where the police have obviosly lied about threats, it doesn't mean you should to stop listening to what all of them have to say.

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BRYAN, Texas (KBTX) - The principal suspect in four, early morning searches by College Station police on Feb. 8 was a "high-level drug dealer" who has not been arrested, records show.

College Station police returned four warrants to the College Station Municipal Court on Monday, offering a clearer picture of the case that led to those searches, which left one person dead in an officer-involved shooting.

College Station Municipal Court Judge Ed Spillane signed all four warrants. He told KBTX that search warrants are required by law to be returned no later than three days after execution, meaning Monday was the final day for police to make the warrants available as public record.

Police previously disclosed searches on Greens Prairie Rd, Tranquil Path Drive, and Spring Loop to KBTX, but a fourth search at a storage facility in the 1700 block of Early Rudder Freeway is also detailed in the newly released records.

We also learned in Monday's records dump that the warrant issued for Greens Prairie Road was executed as a "No Knock" warrant. Police previously said the Spring Loop warrant was a "Knock and Announce" warrant but were not specifically questioned about the warrants executed elsewhere.

The warrants detail at least four accused "co-conspirators" in the case, in addition to the "high-level" dealer. Those include Scott and Leslie Siddons, who were arrested on Feb. 8, as well as a woman who lived with the drug dealer and another woman with whom police believe he shared a romantic relationship.

College Station police said Monday that the drug dealer was a suspect, but is not currently wanted by police. For legal reasons, KBTX has opted not to disclose the names of any parties listed only as a suspect, including the suspected dealer at the center of the investigation, before they are officially identified as wanted persons by police or arrested and charged.

Mark Hopkins, who was killed by police after they say he fired a shotgun in their direction during the service of the search warrant on Spring Loop, is not named in the warrants as a co-conspirator or in the commission of any crime.

Hopkins is identified in the documents as having the utilities for the Spring Loop address in his name and is briefly mentioned in a warrant as exchanging money on Venmo with the drug dealer and his girlfriend, who is assumed in the documents to be Hopkins's roommate.

KBTX has reached out to College Station police for clarification on that mention, as we believe his identification here (as "Said Suspected Party #2) could have been made in error based on the timeline offered. They confirmed that Hopkins was not the focus of the execution of the search warrant, but did not elaborate further.

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