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Maybe because there aren't as many jobs as they want you to believe once construction is complete. Lots of automation.

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But can you imagine how many jobs will be created by just building this monstrosity? And that should last for years if it really going to be as large as they are saying. The local school districts will have mega cash to provide the high schoolers with IT training.

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My guess is that most of those workers will coming from Houston not living in BCS

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You should move to a bigger city if that is what you are wanting. You would do well in California somewhere

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I'm glad you brought up California. I've spent most of my career either in the Pac-West or working with people from there for the last 20-30 years. I've got about 10-15 years in semiconductor and probably around 5 in AI. I've never not lived in Texas. I grew up in small town Texas and then in most of the Texas cities since A&M. Moved to BCS not too long ago. We almost moved to a small town but it was too much of a change for the kids so I lost that battle. They love it here and we have no intention of leaving regardless of this decision.

I'd rather not leave this up to the Californias and Austins of the world. If we have a chance to shape this, I think it's a great opportunity to do that. Yes, I'd love to hole up in a bunker in the middle of nowhere in Texas (which I have) but that's not going to happen. There is no running from this. My family has a lot of land and we want to keep it forever. I'd give it up in a heartbeat, though, if I could help my kid's future (or A&M's for that matter). I've worked with a lot of South Africans and most don't like where this country is headed. See their history. I think Elon is about as good as we're going to get on this. He has FU money and can shape the future tremendously. Just today, Bezos announced a big semiconductor factory near Austin. I'm sure Google and Microsoft will announce one soon as well. We have somebody on our side and we need to keep it that way.

I agree mostly.
There is a train coming down the tracks. Either we build the track where we want it to go or possibly get run over.

That being said, I think we need to have more empathy for the folks who don't agree and are about to have a lifestyle of quiet small communities turned on their heads.

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I agree mostly.
There is a train coming down the tracks. Either we build the track where we want it to go or possibly get run over.

That being said, I think we need to have more empathy for the folks who don't agree and are about to have a lifestyle of quiet small communities turned on their heads.

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I don't think anybody disagrees with that.

Nobody likes to see corporate America taking over Texas land. It's going to happen regardless though. If not here, then in Rockdale or wherever will be going through the same thing. All we can hope for is that they get compensated enough to leave a great future for them and their heirs.

Doesn't make it easy.
Thinking of folks like my in-laws. Some land has been in the family for generations and I can't imagine having that taken away, because of progress. There is a deep tie to identity, purpose, happiness, etc. to land. Not just any land. THIS land, that is mine.

Based on other projects, it looks like a 5 yr timeline for Phase-1 full production. For example, TSMC (Phoenix) took 5 yrs (2020-25) and Samsung (Taylor, Tx) will be about the same (2022-2027). The Samsung foundry is interesting because completion was pushed back to build Tesla's 2nm AI chips.

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Based on other projects, it looks like a 5 yr timeline for Phase-1 full production. For example, TSMC (Phoenix) took 5 yrs (2020-25) and Samsung (Taylor, Tx) will be about the same (2022-2027). The Samsung foundry is interesting because completion was pushed back to build Tesla's 2nm AI chips.

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I think another good comparison for how a small city is affected is Abilene as well. That's a $500 billion dollar project. It's a DC so not the exact same functionality but it's a massive game changer as well. I know some individuals that are moving to Abilene (from the big city) in the near future.

saw this on Linkedin...

Very exciting! I'm looking forward to it.

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I think another good comparison for how a small city is affected is Abilene as well. That's a $500 billion dollar project. It's a DC so not the exact same functionality but it's a massive game changer as well. I know some individuals that are moving to Abilene (from the big city) in the near future.

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Oh absolutely. How does a smallish city/county government climb the curve on short notice for a proposed multi-billion $ project? And how does it pay for the needed expert council? Nitpicky suggested edit though - the Abilene DC is about $12B

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I think another good comparison for how a small city is affected is Abilene as well. That's a $500 billion dollar project. It's a DC so not the exact same functionality but it's a massive game changer as well. I know some individuals that are moving to Abilene (from the big city) in the near future.

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Oh absolutely. How does a smallish city/county government climb the curve on short notice for a proposed multi-billion $ project? And how does it pay for the needed expert council? Nitpicky suggested edit though - the Abilene DC is about $12B

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Yeah I was reading $500 million. Oracle just laid off 20-30% of staff to pay for it (that's what they said but they have layoffs every year).

Flying past the Gibbons creek Power Plant, Soon to be SpaceX TeraFab!!! I hope. pic.twitter.com/YbergZDzFt

— John Kochan 🚁🚀🛩️ (@WindTunnelGuy) May 14, 2026

That has to be 10 yo footage no?

Yes very old

Yeah, I wasn't sure about the video. It just popped up on my X feed. I've never actually been out there.

I hope we get a riverboat casino out of this....jk

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Yeah, I wasn't sure about the video. It just popped up on my X feed. I've never actually been out there.

I hope we get a riverboat casino out of this....jk

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It's a beautiful area except for the coal plant. I had always hoped it would be developed as lake front property. Being just minutes from BCS, I always wanted to build a lake house out there if possible and was waiting patiently for that to happen per the rumors. I figured many that work in Brazos would actually live on a lakehouse lot there given how close it is.

But this, in my mind, is a far better opportunity. The next generations deserve their shot at the American dream, and this project provides that to thousands of people while cleaning up and repurposing an industrial site.

There are always tradeoffs. This seems like a pretty darn good one given the circumstances.

Respectfully

Yancy '95

just found this gem...

Agreed. All the optimism about state parks and housing developments ignored the facts of dealing with a brownfield site with contamination.

If Musk gives every Grimes and Brazos County resident a self driving Tesla+ builds a nuclear power plant to, I'd be down. Solve the traffic and electricity issues overnight.

2 thumbs up for Yankee's Tavern.
That was good food.
Steak salad with homemade pickles and olives. Awesome.
Kids liked it too.

Here is how Anthropic Opus 4.7 and Grok see the SpaceX Terafab Project at Gibbons Creek

A Regional Briefing

What Is Being Proposed
SpaceX has filed a Chapter 312 tax abatement application with Grimes County for a multi-phase, vertically integrated semiconductor manufacturing and advanced computing fabrication facility at the former Gibbons Creek Reservoir site, approximately twenty miles east of Bryan-College Station. The project, branded "Terafab," is a joint venture among SpaceX, Tesla, and Intel, designed to produce advanced chips for Tesla vehicles, Optimus humanoid robots, AI data centers (including planned orbital data centers), and SpaceX satellites. The initial Phase 1 investment is estimated at $55 billion, with total committed capital potentially reaching $119 billion across subsequent phases. A formal public hearing is scheduled for June 3, 2026, at the Grimes County Justice and Business Center in Anderson.

Scale Comparison: Samsung Taylor and SpaceX Terafab

The most direct comparable project in Texas is Samsung's semiconductor manufacturing campus in Taylor, located in Williamson County roughly 35 miles north of Austin. Samsung announced the Taylor project in November 2021 with an initial commitment of approximately $17 billion. Subsequent expansion commitments have brought Samsung's total Taylor investment toward $44 billion. The campus spans 1,200 acres and currently houses approximately 1,100 permanent employees, with a goal of 1,500 by the end of 2026.

The SpaceX Terafab project at Gibbons Creek is meaningfully larger across every dimension. The Phase 1 capital commitment alone is more than three times Samsung's initial Taylor investment. The full $119 billion build-out approaches three times the entire Samsung Taylor commitment after all subsequent expansions. The site footprint at Gibbons Creek is projected at up to 5,000 acres, more than four times Samsung Taylor's 1,200 acres.

Direct employment at full Terafab build-out is expected to range between 6,000 and 10,000 permanent positions, with associated supplier and contractor activity adding multiples of that figure to the regional workforce.
The Texas A&M Private Enterprise Research Center, in its May 12, 2026 Terafab Impact Comparison Factsheet, estimated that the project would shift Grimes County's total market value from approximately $11 billion currently to $55 billion in Phase 1 alone, a five-fold increase in the county's assessable tax base from a single project.

Lessons from the Samsung Taylor Absorption: Taylor and Hutto

The Samsung announcement in November 2021 generated regional impacts that significantly exceeded what local governments and infrastructure providers had prepared for. The most concentrated effects landed not in Taylor itself but in the surrounding workforce-shed communities, particularly Hutto, Round Rock, and Pflugerville.
In Taylor, the city's tax base growth has been substantial. Williamson County Tax Office records show city of Taylor tax revenue rising from approximately $711,000 in 2023 to $8.7 million in 2025, a more than ten-fold increase in two years even with abatement structures in place. Williamson County total tax revenue from the Taylor footprint rose from $2.3 million in 2023 to $19 million in 2025. The fiscal upside has been real and arrived faster than initial projections suggested.

The downstream impacts on Hutto and adjacent communities, however, have been more difficult.

Land prices in Hutto roughly doubled within eighteen months of the Samsung announcement. Single-family home prices rose from a $250,000 - $300,000 range to $400,000 - $500,000 over the same period. Investor activity surged dramatically, with out-of-state buyers, limited liability company acquisitions, and all-cash transactions becoming routine. Long-time residents on fixed incomes faced rapidly rising property tax assessments and, in many cases, were priced out of homes their families had owned for generations.

The supplier wave arrived within months of the Samsung announcement. Specialty gas providers, semiconductor equipment vendors, contract engineering firms, construction management offices, and workforce-related services sought local flexible office space at rates substantially above pre-announcement market norms. Hutto and surrounding communities absorbed an estimated 1.2 million square feet of supplier office and flex space in the first thirty-six months.

Infrastructure pressure on Hutto was significant. Water and wastewater capacity, road network capacity, school district enrollment, emergency services response capability, and municipal planning bandwidth were all stressed beyond what had been planned for. Several of these constraints remain unresolved as of 2026.

Most importantly, Hutto and the broader Taylor-area communities were largely behind the curve on the absorption. The capital wave moved faster than the governance cycle. By the time officials began deliberating policies to address the challenges, the political conversation was consistently behind the actual conditions on the ground.

The Critical Importance of Intergovernmental Cooperation

The SpaceX Terafab project will be substantially larger than Samsung Taylor across every measurable dimension. Its regional impacts will be correspondingly larger. No single jurisdiction in the Brazos Valley has the scale, the resources, or the authority to govern this transformation alone.

The PERC analysis identifies Bryan-College Station and Navasota as the primary metropolitan receiving areas for Terafab's workforce, housing demand, retail growth, and service expansion as "a unified technology corridor." This will require coordinated regional governance.

The Window for Cooperation

The Samsung Taylor experience demonstrates that the capital wave moves faster than the governance cycle. Cities and counties that wait to coordinate until the speculation is visible in their own backyards consistently find themselves twelve to eighteen months behind the conditions they are trying to manage. The Brazos Valley currently sits at the leading edge of the visible absorption period. Regional cooperation initiated now has the potential to position the Brazos Valley to absorb the SpaceX Terafab transformation more competently than Hutto, Taylor, and the surrounding Williamson County communities were able to absorb Samsung.

The alternative is that each jurisdiction acts within its own authority, on its own timeline, in response to pressures it experiences directly. The capital actors structuring the SpaceX deal and the broader supplier wave do not operate within any single jurisdiction's boundaries. They will move forward regardless of whether the affected jurisdictions coordinate with each other. The question is whether the Brazos Valley shapes the transformation or absorbs it passively.

Conclusion

The SpaceX Terafab project at Gibbons Creek represents an industrial transformation of a scale without modern precedent in the Brazos Valley. The Samsung Taylor comparison provides the clearest available analog and demonstrates both the fiscal upside that is real and the absorption challenges that are equally real. The lessons from Hutto in particular are instructive: housing displacement, infrastructure pressure, and speculative real estate activity will arrive faster than expected and will require deliberate governance to manage well.

The institutional capacity to govern this transformation responsibly exists in the Brazos Valley, distributed across more than a dozen jurisdictions and institutions. Whether that capacity is brought to bear cooperatively, or whether each entity acts within its own authority on its own timeline, will substantially determine whether the region's residents experience the next decade as a generational opportunity, or as a displacement crisis. The window for assembling cooperative regional governance is open now and is unlikely to remain open for long.

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Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.

I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.

To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?

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As I wrote in another post on the subject...

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Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.

I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.

To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?

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As I wrote in another post on the subject...

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Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.

I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.

To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?

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Your concerns are well-founded, but I do believe we are in a better position to absorb a project like this than the Taylor/Hutto area was.

Respectfully

Yancy '95 Place 5

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As I wrote in another post on the subject...

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Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.

I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.

To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?

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Your concerns are well-founded, but I do believe we are in a better position to absorb a project like this than the Taylor/Hutto area was.

Respectfully

Yancy '95 Place 5

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Taylor and Hutto also got the East Austin group as well when they taxed them out. This all happened around the same time.

I hate to think of what that type of influx could do to College Station schools. Better start that third highschool, yesterday. And can we reverse that whole allowing out of district students thing?

I am not smart enough to know details of how this all works, but there are many many retirees in the area who might be priced/taxed out of their homes. This is concerning.

I am not worried about those who are retired. Their property taxes are frozen.
I'm concerned about younger generations who already can't afford homes in the area and the "American dream" is really just that...a dream.

Is it true that the main hurdle holding this deal up is that COCS lacks a convention center?

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Is it true that the main hurdle holding this deal up is that COCS lacks a convention center?

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Is it true that the main hurdle holding this deal up is that COCS lacks a convention center?

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Probably not. But I certainly could see COCS using that as an excuse to build one.

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Is it true that the main hurdle holding this deal up is that COCS lacks a convention center?

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This is gold

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Is it true that the main hurdle holding this deal up is that COCS lacks a convention center?

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tu ag said:

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I am not worried about those who are retired. Their property taxes are frozen.
I'm concerned about younger generations who already can't afford homes in the area and the "American dream" is really just that...a dream.

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If my home doubles in value, it will definitely be for sale right away, and will move an hour north to the farm. Which is already in the plans but it may speed up our timeline.

Brazos County tells me my home is worth 145% of what I bought it for in 2019.
If it doubles in the same time frame from today, I won't have a choice but to sell, because the taxes will be too high to be able to pay.