TyHolden said:

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Bob Yancy said:

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We're going to have to come up with a different nomenclature. They're not really "data centers" in space. It's a network really- a constellation of satellites- each one the size of a server rack (excluding the solar panels and heat radiating panels) that are interconnected via laser arrays.

Folks I talk to around town are skeptical and picturing a giant data center building in orbit. Maybe someday it'll come to that- but what's being proposed now is more like a "data grid" than a "data center."

SpaceX has filed with the Federal Communications Commission for a million data satellites in non-geo synchronous orbit. The application is under review.

Just thought I'd add some color to yalls discussion. Have a great weekend!

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/spacex-files-for-million-satellite-orbital-ai-data-center-megaconstellation/

Respectfully

Yancy '95

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Thanks Bob!

Sorry about the diatribe. Yeah, not sure if giant DCs in space would scale that well. The distribution of data only helps. Google's scale-out architecture from the early 2000s was a good example of how this helps. Also, I would be concerned about outsiders/enemies taking a giant DC out. Not sure who we'll be at odds with over this. Probably the usual suspects - China, Russia, etc. Eventually, we'll have to regulate this somehow. Probably a long way from that though. Not sure how much "space" a million satellites/servers/compute devices will take up. I would assume most of them have some kind of deterrent system to avoid crashing into each other (probably similar to what air traffic controllers).

Also, not sure if everybody knows this but if you don't want to read a long diatribe like I wrote above, you can just go into any free AI tool (Google, Chatgpt, etc) and just type one of the below and insert text or url (without the brackets).

Can you please summarize this " <insert text here> "

Can you please summarize this < site url >

You can slice and dice it as much as you want by giving it more instructions.

When I ran this on my text (from above), it comes up with this. And yes, the 2 billion per month is correct but that includes Anthropic in it (not just Google).

The provided text presents a speculative theory that SpaceX and Terafab will dominate the computing market by moving data centers to space for unlimited solar energy, rendering terrestrial data centers obsolete [1]. The user predicts that tech giants like Google and Amazon will rely on these space facilities, drawing a comparison to Amazon's early lead with AWS [1]. However, the claims regarding a $2 billion monthly contract between Google and SpaceX are unsubstantiated, and the vision omits significant technical challenges like heat dissipation and latency in space-based computing [1]. [1, 2]

Google AI url...
https://gemini.google.com/app?utm_source=ai.google&utm_medium=referral

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MyMDbcs said:

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Current Starlink round-trip latency is typically ~20 ms (1/50th of a second).

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• Standard Residential / Business (Land): Generally sits between 20 and 40 ms, with median speeds during peak hours in the US clocking in around 25 to 33 ms.
• Maritime / Remote (Oceans, Polar, etc.): Can increase to 100+ ms due to fewer satellites and reliance on inter-satellite laser links.
• International Routing: Can jump to 80 - 100 ms for long-haul routes (like US to Asia) as the network uses optical space lasers to route data.

• AI1 Satellites: SpaceX's design is simpler than existing Starlink satellites, comprising primarily a compute module, large deployable solar panels, and a cooling radiator.
• Constellation: SpaceX has filed plans with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) for a constellation of up to one million satellites, which will be deployed using their heavy-lift Starship rocket.
• Global Relay Network: The orbiting servers will communicate with Earth and each other using Starlink's existing optical space laser network.