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Bob Yancy
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Bob Yancy said:

TyHolden said:

Is the session over for today?


They broke for executive session. Should come back for final discussion and vote any minute

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Yancy '95


They're back from executive but the live stream is broken. Ugh
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Bob Yancy said:

Bob Yancy said:

TyHolden said:

Is the session over for today?


They broke for executive session. Should come back for final discussion and vote any minute

Respectfully

Yancy '95


They're back from executive but the live stream is broken. Ugh


Perhaps SpaceX could offer them free Starlink?
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Boat Shoes said:

Bob Yancy said:

Bob Yancy said:

TyHolden said:

Is the session over for today?


They broke for executive session. Should come back for final discussion and vote any minute

Respectfully

Yancy '95


They're back from executive but the live stream is broken. Ugh


Perhaps SpaceX could offer them free Starlink?

That should be in the tax abatements. Everybody in the area gets free Starlink for the rest of their lives. And one flight to Mars per year.
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6X?
I don't know if I'd be able to hold out for more. But imagine a 10X selling price and buying somewhere else. Wow. Change is a comin'
Bob Yancy
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TyHolden said:

Boat Shoes said:

Bob Yancy said:

Bob Yancy said:

TyHolden said:

Is the session over for today?


They broke for executive session. Should come back for final discussion and vote any minute

Respectfully

Yancy '95


They're back from executive but the live stream is broken. Ugh


Perhaps SpaceX could offer them free Starlink?

That should be in the tax abatements. Everybody in the area gets free Starlink for the rest of their lives. And one flight to Mars per year.


The starlink part might could've been done. I like how you think.

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Yancy '95
ooshwa
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Approved 4-1
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Bob Yancy said:

Bob Yancy said:

TyHolden said:

Is the session over for today?


They broke for executive session. Should come back for final discussion and vote any minute

Respectfully

Yancy '95


They're back from executive but the live stream is broken. Ugh


Their new streaming system doesn't seem to be worth whatever they paid. Most likely the most important event that ever happened in Grimes County and their streaming system goes down.

Or is that a feature rather than a bug?
Bob Yancy
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ooshwa said:

Approved 4-1


The abatement?
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Yes
Bob Yancy
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ooshwa said:

Yes


Wow. Extraordinary.
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I hope they use part of the $10,000,000 to give that older gentleman who drives around filling potholes all summer a pay raise and an air conditioned truck.

They really could some of the money to hire a few more guys driving around filling potholes, even on the areas they just repaved.
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So is this pretty much a done deal now or are there more hurdles to cross?
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Mr. Yancy -

A SpaceX arena for Aggie basketball and convention center would be a nice gift to the community for the additional traffic, etc.
Bob Yancy
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Boat Shoes said:

So is this pretty much a done deal now or are there more hurdles to cross?


They have the land, the reinvestment zone, and the abatement. I would imagine real estate agents are about to get real busy. Residential and commercial. In a 30 mile circumference.

My $.02

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From what I understand there still may be some hurdles with ERCOT and TCEQ, but those would be true of any Texas site.

I think this is gonna happen!
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… I say hurdles, but perhaps just complications that dictate the speed of things
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Lots of folks in King Oaks are about to be selling for much more than they paid to build. Good for them!
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Rex Racer said:

Lots of folks in King Oaks are about to be selling for much more than they paid to build. Good for them!

Anybody who bought a lot and never built on it is also likely to cash in, I bet.
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Bob Yancy said:

Boat Shoes said:

So is this pretty much a done deal now or are there more hurdles to cross?


They have the land, the reinvestment zone, and the abatement. I would imagine real estate agents are about to get real busy. Residential and commercial. In a 30 mile circumference.

My $.02

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Yancy '95

Not just realtors, we are all about to get real busy. A rising tide raises all ships! This is great news for the BCS and Grimes County communities!
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$20M PILOT for 35 years and $10m upfront to the county
Bob Yancy
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EliteElectric said:

Bob Yancy said:

Boat Shoes said:

So is this pretty much a done deal now or are there more hurdles to cross?


They have the land, the reinvestment zone, and the abatement. I would imagine real estate agents are about to get real busy. Residential and commercial. In a 30 mile circumference.

My $.02

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Yancy '95

Not just realtors, we are all about to get real busy. A rising tide raises all ships! This is great news for the BCS and Grimes County communities!


100%. Hotels, restaurants, retail, office space rental, movie theaters, barber shops- everything under the sun. It'll be transformative. I expect the mall will benefit greatly with new retailers.


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If it's great news for us why does nobody living here want it?
Killing a quiet rural lifestyle.
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Muzzleblast said:

If it's great news for us why does nobody living here want it?
Killing a quiet rural lifestyle.

yes
also this is the way of the world, they nearly always place this kind of stuff away from denser populations
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How long until we see a road like this planned to get everyone back and forth from south/east CS to this area?

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That's a good idea and I wonder if they can get the bridge(s) done on Hwy 30 sooner rather than later.
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way too much river bottom to cross. flood plain is way too wide there to ever have a road like that.
Bob Yancy
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Captn_Ag05 said:

How long until we see a road like this planned to get everyone back and forth from south/east CS to this area?




Perhaps, but highway 30 is no slouch. Not over 19 minutes from 30, down fitch to my house and another 5 minutes to tower point. Or, stay on 30 and pass fitch and be in bryan in a few minutes.

Both corridors will be a lot more active.

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Muzzleblast said:

If it's great news for us why does nobody living here want it?
Killing a quiet rural lifestyle.

It was a lignite coal mine for decades, very noisy and dirty. It's also a stone's throw from the Brazos Valley's main landfill. This is an ideal location.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

How long until we see a road like this planned to get everyone back and forth from south/east CS to this area?





First, they probably need to put I-14S along the Hwy 30 corridor back into the plans. Your leg would possibly be part of the I-214 loop around BCS.
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Certainly a ton of money, but what is the job creation prospects (direct and indirect) for a project like this?
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Certainly a ton of money, but what is the job creation prospects (direct and indirect) for a project like this?
Potentially massive. I think the Samsung facility in Taylor had 6500 manufacturing jobs and something like 2000 high tech jobs projected over a decade.
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Bob Yancy
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techno-ag said:

Captn_Ag05 said:

Certainly a ton of money, but what is the job creation prospects (direct and indirect) for a project like this?
Potentially massive. I think the Samsung facility in Taylor had 6500 manufacturing jobs and something like 2000 high tech jobs projected over a decade.


At the risk of sounding like a broken record- it's going to constitute nothing less than a fundamental reforming of our local economy. It's many times larger than Taylor/Hutto Samsung, and the impacts good and bad from that are happening still in that community.

It will take foresight, intergovernmental cooperation and planning to get it right. Housing must get approved faster. Roads. Economic development agreements. Schools and hospitals will be impacted. Emergency services too. Landfill operations. Everything.

It's the largest economic development deal in the history of the state of Texas.

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Personally, I think we may be overestimating the early returns from this. Yesterday, I was at the Monkey Island LNG site being built in Cameron Parish. $25 billion project. Ive seen these projects in the past and they are crazy impressive. But this time, I tried to pay more attention to how it affected the surrounding area. Obviously, traffic at shift change is the biggest thing. That's usually long streams of trucks traveling towards the parking lots at max speed for about 30-45 minutes a couple times a day. They set up big gravel lots in the outskirts of the build area. 5-15 miles out and force most of the employees to ride busses in. One thing I noticed is a very high percentage of the license plates were out of state. It looked to be mostly single guys staying in campers and RVs, paying to have laundry done at mobile laundry trailers, eating whatever local gas station/ fast food that is convenient, and likely sending 90% of their income back home. The places that will benefit the most will be fast food, lower end restaurants, gas stations, local bars, hotels, and anybody that puts in spots to park a camper. But most of the construction money will never see Brazos or Grimes county.

The real question will be, how many long term jobs does it bring and will those jobs be permanent or potentially outsourced to AI and automation.
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CS78 said:

Personally, I think we may be overestimating the early returns from this. Yesterday, I was at the Monkey Island LNG site being built in Cameron Parish. $25 billion project. Ive seen these projects in the past and they are crazy impressive. But this time, I tried to pay more attention to how it affected the surrounding area. Obviously, traffic at shift change is the biggest thing. That's usually long streams of trucks traveling towards the parking lots at max speed for about 30-45 minutes a couple times a day. They set up big gravel lots in the outskirts of the build area. 5-15 miles out and force most of the employees to ride busses in. One thing I noticed is a very high percentage of the license plates were out of state. It looked to be mostly single guys staying in campers and RVs, paying to have laundry done at mobile laundry trailers, eating whatever local gas station/ fast food that is convenient, and likely sending 90% of their income back home. The places that will benefit the most will be fast food, lower end restaurants, gas stations, local bars, hotels, and anybody that puts in spots to park a camper. But most of the construction money will never see Brazos or Grimes county.

The real question will be, how many long term jobs does it bring and will those jobs be permanent or potentially outsourced to AI and automation.
A natural gas plant is a different animal. The skills needed for a fab plant go beyond just laying concrete. Frankly I don't mind if a worker lives in a trailer park for 2 years, that's money in the community and it leaves more houses for young families.

As for AI automation these kind of plants will always need humans. See the stats for the Samsung facility above. It's way too early I think to start poo-pooing this project when it hasn't even gotten off the ground yet.
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