This was moderately entertaining.
Well done, techno.
Well done, techno.
TEED OFF at the lazy people who cant put their shopping cart in the cart corral
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Everybody: please don't endanger your kids out of some inflated sense of civic duty to put your carts up. Just leave 'em there. We can replace the carts but we can't replace your kids.
This message is a public service announcement on behalf of the many, many kids who have lost their lives or been kidnapped while their parents were placing their shopping carts in a corral.
Bad parents. Bad.
But there are always trolls....
P.S.
BAGGERS!!!??? BAGGERS???!!!
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BAGGERS!!!
[This message has been edited by Allonym (edited 6/30/2010 9:31a).]
P.S.
BAGGERS!!!??? BAGGERS???!!!
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BAGGERS!!!
[This message has been edited by Allonym (edited 6/30/2010 9:31a).]
No, there's really no good excuse for not putting up your cart when you're done shopping (though bless some of you for trying so hard to find a way around it!).
If I can manage to do it after shopping with our boys, ages ten, three and two (and the two year olds are twins!), I figure that most people can take the whopping thirty seconds to do it too. And trust me when I say that my children are very far from perfect. It's common courtesy, people. Just like cleaning up your trash at Whataburger or picking up dog poo when you're out walking your pet. It's so simple, there's usually just no reason not to outside of pure self-centered behavior.
Also, I don't know what kind of car some of you drive, but unless your foot is on the brake and you're pushing in the little button on the gear shift, you can't knock the car into any gear. It would have to be the perfect storm of coordination and just sheer determination.
You know, none of these things would be an issue though if we all just led by example and taught our children that certain behaviors aren't okay.
If I can manage to do it after shopping with our boys, ages ten, three and two (and the two year olds are twins!), I figure that most people can take the whopping thirty seconds to do it too. And trust me when I say that my children are very far from perfect. It's common courtesy, people. Just like cleaning up your trash at Whataburger or picking up dog poo when you're out walking your pet. It's so simple, there's usually just no reason not to outside of pure self-centered behavior.
Also, I don't know what kind of car some of you drive, but unless your foot is on the brake and you're pushing in the little button on the gear shift, you can't knock the car into any gear. It would have to be the perfect storm of coordination and just sheer determination.
You know, none of these things would be an issue though if we all just led by example and taught our children that certain behaviors aren't okay.
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But there are always trolls...
It's not a troll when you have an honest disagreement in opinions. I think kids' safety trumps carts in the corral, and others on the board agree with me. If one of us asserts or reasserts that opinion, that's not being trollish.
OTOH, Al, a lot of your comments are downright inflammatory. When you disagree, you're pretty sharp worded. Here's an example from p. 2 of this thread:
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You are a lazy A** if you don't put up the cart you used plain and simply ... You are a self centered Self Important TWIT and we all see you and know this when you do it.
Now, I enjoy a good online argument as well as the next person, but the name calling and other insults are just not necessary.
At the end of the day, we're talking about shopping carts. And kid safety. Let's stay nice with one another. We can disagree but let's do so without name calling and insults.
Now back to the argument ...
Techno,
There is nothing to argue. You are wrong. The MAJORITY of people here agree that you are wrong. Just because 2 other lazy people agree with you doesnt make you right. It just identifies two fellow lazy people who invent weak excuses for their actions.
This isn't about childrens safety. It has already been illustrated that the shear act of putting them in the car and taking them with you on the road is infinitely MORE dangerous than the invented threats you need to justify your actions.
You are a lost cause and I recognize that. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Good Day.
Adding: If what you are doing is so rigtheous then why do most of you cower and hide or avert your eyes and try to distance yourself from the act you committed when confronted IN PERSON by scurrying away like a roach. Why arent you on that soapbox in the parking lot explaining that it is for the safety of the children that you have done it?! Simple, because you KNOW what you did was not acceptable and your excuse is B.S.
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There is nothing to argue. You are wrong. The MAJORITY of people here agree that you are wrong. Just because 2 other lazy people agree with you doesnt make you right. It just identifies two fellow lazy people who invent weak excuses for their actions.
This isn't about childrens safety. It has already been illustrated that the shear act of putting them in the car and taking them with you on the road is infinitely MORE dangerous than the invented threats you need to justify your actions.
You are a lost cause and I recognize that. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Good Day.
Adding: If what you are doing is so rigtheous then why do most of you cower and hide or avert your eyes and try to distance yourself from the act you committed when confronted IN PERSON by scurrying away like a roach. Why arent you on that soapbox in the parking lot explaining that it is for the safety of the children that you have done it?! Simple, because you KNOW what you did was not acceptable and your excuse is B.S.
[This message has been edited by Allonym (edited 6/30/2010 7:18p).]
This is better than the 'watering in th middle of the day' thread from a few years ago.
Please don't let it die!
Please don't let it die!
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because i'm not going to pay ten dollars an hour for child care to go grocery shopping. sorry if that 'grinds your gears', but if you really want, you are free to make a donation.
Wait...you mean...you take care of your own kids? Wow...who'da thought! Well done, by the way, in these last two pages of this train wreck, I think its pretty clear who actually has kids and who just wants to talk a big story about carts and civic duty while thinking they know what its like to have kids.
Maybe its just me, but I couldnt give two shakes about what someone thinks of me depending on whether I corral a GD cart at the store. My goodness. Many on this thread should, perhaps, take up some other time consuming hobbies or causes of some sort.
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maybe that's why i love mine more, because they pretty much are.
Well then, I guess that means it should be really easy for you to put your cart away when you're done shopping!
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No, there's really no good excuse for not putting up your cart when you're done shopping (though bless some of you for trying so hard to find a way around it!).
If I can manage to do it after shopping with our boys, ages ten, three and two (and the two year olds are twins!), I figure that most people can take the whopping thirty seconds to do it too. And trust me when I say that my children are very far from perfect. It's common courtesy, people. Just like cleaning up your trash at Whataburger or picking up dog poo when you're out walking your pet. It's so simple, there's usually just no reason not to outside of pure self-centered behavior.
Also, I don't know what kind of car some of you drive, but unless your foot is on the brake and you're pushing in the little button on the gear shift, you can't knock the car into any gear. It would have to be the perfect storm of coordination and just sheer determination.
You know, none of these things would be an issue though if we all just led by example and taught our children that certain behaviors aren't okay.
What she said. I'm so glad you finally chimed in, 4lilmonkeys.
Al -
On the contrary, my friend. You are wrong and I am right. Since we disagree, there is an argument.
I think you meant "sheer" act. Shearing involves cutting.
Here I think you meant "wits," as in "keeping your wits about you," as opposed to "I care not a whit about shopping carts."
They're probably afraid of getting robbed in the parking lot, which seems to be increasing in frequency around here.
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There is nothing to argue. You are wrong.
On the contrary, my friend. You are wrong and I am right. Since we disagree, there is an argument.
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It has already been illustrated that the shear act of putting them in the car
I think you meant "sheer" act. Shearing involves cutting.
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I refuse to have a battle of whits with an unarmed person.
Here I think you meant "wits," as in "keeping your wits about you," as opposed to "I care not a whit about shopping carts."
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Adding: If what you are doing is so rigtheous then why do most of you cower and hide or avert your eyes and try to distance yourself from the act you committed when confronted IN PERSON by scurrying away like a roach.
They're probably afraid of getting robbed in the parking lot, which seems to be increasing in frequency around here.
I read through page 3 and never saw this mentioned, sorry if it was mentioned on one of the other pages but I got tired of reading.
So when you pulled up to the grocery store, I'm assuming your kids automatically appeared in the cart for you, right??? No, therefore at some point you had to get the kids out of the car and walk to get a cart...on that same note you can put the cart in the cart coral and walk your kids back to the car.
So when you pulled up to the grocery store, I'm assuming your kids automatically appeared in the cart for you, right??? No, therefore at some point you had to get the kids out of the car and walk to get a cart...on that same note you can put the cart in the cart coral and walk your kids back to the car.
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I read through page 3 and never saw this mentioned, sorry if it was mentioned on one of the other pages but I got tired of reading.
So when you pulled up to the grocery store, I'm assuming your kids automatically appeared in the cart for you, right??? No, therefore at some point you had to get the kids out of the car and walk to get a cart...on that same note you can put the cart in the cart coral and walk your kids back to the car.
Chevis,
Yes it was mentioned and summarily dismissed by the self rightious children saving lazy a**es who just don't want to return their cart in the name of their superior cause.
Instead of putting forth a reasonable argument they choose to pick apart counter arguments for grammar/spelling to do nothing other than inflate their ego and make themselves feel better about being such a selfish self centered miserable wretch who thumbs their nose at the rest of us.
P.S. and on that note Damn you google for not catching my misspelling of wit. I REALLY didnt want to get that one wrong
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To me it comes down to this: If you are unable to put up your cart, for whatever reason, please at least make sure that it is in a place that will not roll because it could cause damages either to a person or property.
If you are able to put up your cart and feel safe doing so, please do. The rest of us greatly appreciate it, especially the store employees. But again, if you don't want to return it, then please make sure it will not roll off for the reasons above.
To the person who said that a child cannot put a car in gear - not every car has those safely functions. I've seen a child do it, I raced along with others to try to stop the car, luckily they did not get hurt. To be honest, I did the same thing when I was about 7 years old, though I figured out the brakes fast enough to keep it from rolling far.
Lastly, just keep in mind, the people on here who are calling people silly or lazy for not putting up your cart due to having small children are the same people who will probably blast you and say it's all your fault if something does happen to your kids while you are putting up said cart. So do what your instinct tells you to do.
If you are able to put up your cart and feel safe doing so, please do. The rest of us greatly appreciate it, especially the store employees. But again, if you don't want to return it, then please make sure it will not roll off for the reasons above.
To the person who said that a child cannot put a car in gear - not every car has those safely functions. I've seen a child do it, I raced along with others to try to stop the car, luckily they did not get hurt. To be honest, I did the same thing when I was about 7 years old, though I figured out the brakes fast enough to keep it from rolling far.
Lastly, just keep in mind, the people on here who are calling people silly or lazy for not putting up your cart due to having small children are the same people who will probably blast you and say it's all your fault if something does happen to your kids while you are putting up said cart. So do what your instinct tells you to do.
Tariny,
The only *blasting* that is going on is to the people advocating doing this as a MUST in the name of safety for their children because your child could not possibly be safe unless you toss your cart in to the spot next to yours, dive in your car and drive off before the kidnappers or the evil sun can kill your child.
Meaning, they are asking everyone else to do the same with them for safetys sake. I guess in the end if they were successfull with such a plea then it would become the socially acceptible norm and they would no longer be doing something wrong.
The only *blasting* that is going on is to the people advocating doing this as a MUST in the name of safety for their children because your child could not possibly be safe unless you toss your cart in to the spot next to yours, dive in your car and drive off before the kidnappers or the evil sun can kill your child.
Meaning, they are asking everyone else to do the same with them for safetys sake. I guess in the end if they were successfull with such a plea then it would become the socially acceptible norm and they would no longer be doing something wrong.
Responsiblity...
Its a dog gone cereal box religion.
Its a dog gone cereal box religion.
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To the person who said that a child cannot put a car in gear - not every car has those safely functions.
Sorry, I did mean to say it was specifically my car that works that way. So I misspoke and apologize.
I wasn't saying that it can't be done, just that it would be fairly difficult for a toddler to do. It also seems like it would take being left alone for more than a a few minutes. My kids are immediately put in their seats and buckled, so I guess I just find it difficult to imagine and not really a valid excuse in this specific debate.
All I'm asking is that those of you with children that cannot manage to put your cart up, ask for help out to your car. Otherwise, please start leaving your name and number in the cart so that I can contact you and you can pay for the damage to my vehicle. Maybe you could have some business cards made up with this information so as not to inconvenience yourself.
If it is so difficult to put a cart up with children, it really makes me question parenting abilities.
If it is so difficult to put a cart up with children, it really makes me question parenting abilities.
I really don't get the "kids safety" bit.
Look, load up your groceries, take your kid with you to put up the cart, then load yourself and your child up in the vehicle.
Your child is with you the entire time, your also passing on a good habit and manners by showing your child that your putting the cart up.
Sure, there can occasionally be extreme situations where you might feel the need to bypass putting up the cart, but those are rare instances and far in-between.
Look, load up your groceries, take your kid with you to put up the cart, then load yourself and your child up in the vehicle.
Your child is with you the entire time, your also passing on a good habit and manners by showing your child that your putting the cart up.
Sure, there can occasionally be extreme situations where you might feel the need to bypass putting up the cart, but those are rare instances and far in-between.
Cat:
Nah. You accept a modicum of risk in parking lots. This includes the chance a cart may bump your car or someone else's car door might dent yours.
Most of our store parking lots are flat, and in those that aren't it's usually easy to pop the cart up on a curb or something to immobilize it, without having to take it all the way back to the corral.
Syrei:
Glad you're beginning to see it our way. I'll be the judge as to when I feel the need to put up the cart, or leave it, especially when the kiddos are involved. I'll put you down on the pro children safety side, despite your reservations.
Al:
We do a lot for the sake of safety where children are concerned. We stop when school bus lights flash red. We insist on child safety seats in vehicles. We brake for pedestrians in parking lots, especially those with children.
So, I would argue that leaving your cart when you have small children with you already is a socially accepted norm. I'm not the only parent who does this, as evidenced by others here. Heck even those who try to put up their carts on principle admit there are times and situations in which they don't.
It's called personal responsibility and decision making. If I decide it is safer for my family to not return the cart, then I'll leave it there. You can grab it on your way into the store.
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please start leaving your name and number in the cart so that I can contact you and you can pay for the damage to my vehicle.
Nah. You accept a modicum of risk in parking lots. This includes the chance a cart may bump your car or someone else's car door might dent yours.
Most of our store parking lots are flat, and in those that aren't it's usually easy to pop the cart up on a curb or something to immobilize it, without having to take it all the way back to the corral.
Syrei:
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Sure, there can occasionally be extreme situations where you might feel the need to bypass putting up the cart, but those are rare instances and far in-between.
Glad you're beginning to see it our way. I'll be the judge as to when I feel the need to put up the cart, or leave it, especially when the kiddos are involved. I'll put you down on the pro children safety side, despite your reservations.
Al:
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The only *blasting* that is going on is to the people advocating doing this as a MUST in the name of safety for their children because your child could not possibly be safe unless you toss your cart in to the spot next to yours, dive in your car and drive off before the kidnappers or the evil sun can kill your child.
Meaning, they are asking everyone else to do the same with them for safetys sake. I guess in the end if they were successfull with such a plea then it would become the socially acceptible norm and they would no longer be doing something wrong.
We do a lot for the sake of safety where children are concerned. We stop when school bus lights flash red. We insist on child safety seats in vehicles. We brake for pedestrians in parking lots, especially those with children.
So, I would argue that leaving your cart when you have small children with you already is a socially accepted norm. I'm not the only parent who does this, as evidenced by others here. Heck even those who try to put up their carts on principle admit there are times and situations in which they don't.
It's called personal responsibility and decision making. If I decide it is safer for my family to not return the cart, then I'll leave it there. You can grab it on your way into the store.
Deposits for carts, like jed1154 mentioned, would be the perfect remedy. This grocery store has the right idea http://www.aldifoods.com/us/html/company/shopping_smarter_3181_ENU_HTML.htm
They charge for plastic bags as well. Although,, as far as carts are concerned, I think a $1 deposit would be more effective. A one euro deposit for a cart is quite common in Europe.
They charge for plastic bags as well. Although,, as far as carts are concerned, I think a $1 deposit would be more effective. A one euro deposit for a cart is quite common in Europe.
Shoot I'd camp out at the grocery store and corral the carts myself for $1 a pop.
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BAGGERS!!!??? BAGGERS???!!!
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BAGGERS!!!
...at the Rockridge Super Mart....
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To the person who said that a child cannot put a car in gear - not every car has those safely functions.
Fact check: Mostly false
(Queue the "Driving Miss Daisy" soundtrack)
Most manufacturers equip their vehicles with "shift interlock devices" and have since the early 1990's. The notable exception here was Chrysler, which didn't incorporate them until 2000.
Beginning in September of this year, these devices will be required by law.
http://www.sema.org/sema-enews/2010/14/auto-transmission-shift-interlocks-required-to-prevent-vehicle-rollaways
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New cars with automatic transmissions must now be equipped with an interlock device that requires the brake pedal be pressed before the driver can shift the transmission out of “park."
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration took the action in response to a law passed in 2008 designed to protect children from vehicle rollaways in which a car is inadvertently shifted into neutral or another gear.
The new requirement applies to all passenger cars and light trucks weighing 10,000 lbs. or less and takes effect on September 1, 2010.
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Nah. You accept a modicum of risk in parking lots. This includes the chance a cart may bump your car or someone else's car door might dent yours.
As do you. If your cart does damage to a vehicle and you are identified you can be sued for damages. That's also true if you dent someone's door, or if your negligence causes other damage. The only thing protecting you is the difficulty in identifying you, and all it takes to defeat that is one good Samaritan who writes down your license plate number and leaves a note for the car owner with their contact info.
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To the person who said that a child cannot put a car in gear - not every car has those safely functions.
I believe they call those pesky little things emergency brakes. It is a pretty amazing concept. You press this mysterious little pedal down there by your feet, and the vehicle is magically unable to move regardless of whether it's in gear or not. I know, I know, with 14 kids in tow, it is probably difficult to remember that one extra little thing to do.
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Yep, those emergency brakes are amazing little things installed on ALL cars!
techno ag, you make me think that you are probably extremely obese and probably think it's ok to live off of the government as well. Stop being lazy and take some responsibility. It's probably ok to open your car door into mine also since I parked in the parking lot, right? Well, I took that risk. It's inconsiderate people like you and others on this board that's wrong with the world. If you can't handle putting up a cart with kids, THEN DON'T BREED! The last thing this world needs is more inconsiderate people like you but unfortunately, you already have and it sounds like you are setting a great example.
Honestly, how do you people function on a daily basis? Amazing!
techno ag, you make me think that you are probably extremely obese and probably think it's ok to live off of the government as well. Stop being lazy and take some responsibility. It's probably ok to open your car door into mine also since I parked in the parking lot, right? Well, I took that risk. It's inconsiderate people like you and others on this board that's wrong with the world. If you can't handle putting up a cart with kids, THEN DON'T BREED! The last thing this world needs is more inconsiderate people like you but unfortunately, you already have and it sounds like you are setting a great example.
Honestly, how do you people function on a daily basis? Amazing!
Cat:
Calm ... calm ... Take a deep breath ...
Now, I think Clucky said it best earlier about a wild accusation somebody made because they disagreed with the safety of children argument:
Do you see how silly your arguments get when you resort to general assumptions? I showed a friend this thread and she said she found the anti-children safety comments alternating between hilarious and appalling. Yours are hilarious.
Let's all take a deep breath, people. And remember: It's a shopping cart! Just a shopping cart.
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techno ag, you make me think that you are probably extremely obese and probably think it's ok to live off of the government as well. Stop being lazy and take some responsibility. It's probably ok to open your car door into mine also since I parked in the parking lot, right? Well, I took that risk. It's inconsiderate people like you and others on this board that's wrong with the world.
Calm ... calm ... Take a deep breath ...
Now, I think Clucky said it best earlier about a wild accusation somebody made because they disagreed with the safety of children argument:
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Oh! I want to make a general assumption too!!!
I bet people who don't put their carts away are the same people who.....
Curb-stomp kittens!!
Do you see how silly your arguments get when you resort to general assumptions? I showed a friend this thread and she said she found the anti-children safety comments alternating between hilarious and appalling. Yours are hilarious.
Let's all take a deep breath, people. And remember: It's a shopping cart! Just a shopping cart.
The shopping cart is a microchasm of all the ills and problems of society!!!
--does sarcasm carry over on an internet message board?
--does sarcasm carry over on an internet message board?
OK, it seems that this topic is now way off topic, but for the sake of argument...
If all of us moms asked the baggers to help us to the car, wouldn't that raise the overall cost of groceries significantly? I wonder what % of customers ask for help out to the car.
I, personally, park next to a cart corral, take a cart from it, put the kids in the cart, and then enter the store. And then return it when I'm done.
If all of us moms asked the baggers to help us to the car, wouldn't that raise the overall cost of groceries significantly? I wonder what % of customers ask for help out to the car.
I, personally, park next to a cart corral, take a cart from it, put the kids in the cart, and then enter the store. And then return it when I'm done.