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SF2004 said:

So can i just slap a short upper on my rifle lower or not?

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normaleagle05 said:

It's time to get competent with a lathe and a mill.

Anybody have a plan for an easy first DIY 22lr can?

For a .22 it's easy. Get one of those aluminum solvent trap kits off of Temu or wherever and drill out the end cap and maybe the cones if necessary.

Cheap, quick and effective.
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schmellba99 said:

normaleagle05 said:

It's time to get competent with a lathe and a mill.

Anybody have a plan for an easy first DIY 22lr can?

For a .22 it's easy. Get one of those aluminum solvent trap kits off of Temu or wherever and drill out the end cap and maybe the cones if necessary.

Cheap, quick and effective.

are there any links to such things?!
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I have zero authority and can offer you almost zero expertise on this fluid matter, but you may have a hypothetical and fictitious stamp of approval from the internet to go right on ahead.
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Capitol Armory sent out an email yesterday that said despite the changes, they still recommend submitting a Form for your can because a change in administration could change how the law is enforced since the law didn't change. Also, if you did buy the can via 4473, then you couldn't submit a Form 4. It was an interesting take, seems they are taking the belt and suspenders approach since the law didn't change.
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There are STL files for 22 cans. Just saying…
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dsvogel05 said:

Capitol Armory sent out an email yesterday that said despite the changes, they still recommend submitting a Form for your can because a change in administration could change how the law is enforced since the law didn't change. Also, if you did buy the can via 4473, then you couldn't submit a Form 4. It was an interesting take, seems they are taking the belt and suspenders approach since the law didn't change.


It was a very good email and stuff worth considering.

That being said....we got to this point because we pushed. People like SB Tactical pushing the braces as an option instead of SBR, etc.

The more 4473 sbr/sbs and suppressors out there, the harder it is for them to arbitrarily decide "those are illegal now" and have people comply.

Part of why the brace ban stuff got walked back so hard was because there was so much non compliance and so many out there that it became an issue of either dropping the "braces are stocks" stance or admitting their ability to enforce their diktats was not there.

I will be picking up a new can next week on a 4473. What yall do is of course, between you and God.


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Speaking of pushing envelopes, it may be time to go ahead and start a PDW thread soon with all the current changes......I think more people might suddenly be interested in MP5ks and similar sized guns if they don't require any paperwork.....

It's a bit of a niche obsession of mine.



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What no MAC-10?
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The PDW category is about to explode I think.

I'm already on the hunt for copperhead K. Let me know if you ever want to sell yours
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BenderRodriguez said:

Speaking of pushing envelopes, it may be time to go ahead and start a PDW thread soon with all the current changes......I think more people might suddenly be interested in MP5ks and similar sized guns if they don't require any paperwork.....

It's a bit of a niche obsession of mine.





That's a nice collection to have fall in a lake.
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dtkprowler said:

schmellba99 said:

normaleagle05 said:

It's time to get competent with a lathe and a mill.

Anybody have a plan for an easy first DIY 22lr can?

For a .22 it's easy. Get one of those aluminum solvent trap kits off of Temu or wherever and drill out the end cap and maybe the cones if necessary.

Cheap, quick and effective.

are there any links to such things?!

a "friend" of mine used quietbore.com but it looks like they are no longer in business. He told me they had a holder for the baffles you could put in a vise to guide your drill.

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On today's show, we've brought on Preston from Creative Arms/QuietBore. For those unfamiliar, Quiet Bore used to be our specialized Form 1 Suppressor kits where end-users would be able to take advantage of using the ATF's regulations to construct their own suppressor at home. However, as is often the case with the ATF and firearms, the rules have changed in an unfavorable direction for DIY Suppressor manufacturers and as a result, Quiet Bore has had to switch gears to match the times. Today Preston and I discuss a bit of the company's history, their product lineup, as well as some related fields that Creative Arms and Quiet Bore benefit from with some of their sister companies. Please welcome Preston to the show!
If you're interested in checking out what QuietBore is working on, or what Preston is getting into these days (he's really into cars) you can check out the links below to their social media pages.

https://www.creativearms.com/2022/08/30/the-firearms-blog-behind-the-gun-podcast/
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Back in the day, QB would even engrave your suppressor for you while you waited on the stamp... you were NOT allowed to drill the baffles until the stamp was approved. It did come with a vice block to hold the baffles while you drilled it....

According to a friend of mine
GeorgiAg
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Maybe we know the same guy.
ttha_aggie_09
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Perhaps...
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https://solventtrapsdirect.com/solvent-trap-kits/

https://solventtrapsdirect.com/dry-storage-cups/

But you can buy a full suppressor for less $

https://www.creativearms.com/product/qb-series-22lr/

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Our D Cell Titanium Solvent Trap Kits are cleaning accessories designed to trap fluids that harm the environment. Cleaning solvents are noxious and can contaminate water supplies.
Solvent traps help sportsmen contribute to a clean environment and our products are legal and environmentally safe when used as intended.
The D Cell Solvent Trap Kit is easy to assemble and use; just screw an End Cap and Thread Protector onto the Tube and screw the unit onto the muzzle end of your barrel. The trap will catch the solvent you pour through your barrel to clean it. Recycle your solvent to save money and to be environmentally conscious.

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  • Please follow all NFA laws. Modification of solvent trap parts without an approved tax stamp could be considered a felony.


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Nealthedestroyer said:

There are STL files for 22 cans. Just saying…

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Are there any companies that make the adapters for Oil filters?

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TheGifGuy said:

Are there any companies that make the adapters for Oil filters?

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/113803872320?_skw=5%2F8x24+oil+filter+adapter&itmmeta=01M505HJDG56EBPT0ZMR1NGY1Z&hash=item1a7f3d4840:g:bIwAAOSwMT5dGkio&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA4CHNgUiiE%2FjQhlDTaMiAde%2F6DFINryrvRSE4KiK03twO0k49R4cxDJcgayCDMIMLBuCreq%2F%2BFQirKYDqzIky%2BLcn4Cst9FuauNeTkldK5%2BMhynUo2Hv75if%2BPOCyz8iogXXZruUW7nx8jKro12gGtlFhbbl9sW4Ay%2BJS3I12TxN8eZNXxs20pGDI6E42d%2F9LCHt%2Fx7g9C4IQ7I42RRGxR4WxZ%2FWoUIItZCVSB4jJdzMcm9TDhiFcXFZLdzFFV0Yck1CIX7B5cu%2Bk7dSEH6bXzCjtYI5N5EvtJcMoGRs0P5wx%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-ymxoWoaA
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BenderRodriguez said:

Speaking of pushing envelopes, it may be time to go ahead and start a PDW thread soon with all the current changes......I think more people might suddenly be interested in MP5ks and similar sized guns if they don't require any paperwork.....

It's a bit of a niche obsession of mine.





If autistic ******ation combined with just being weird was a picture.......this is it.
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schmellba99 said:

BenderRodriguez said:

Speaking of pushing envelopes, it may be time to go ahead and start a PDW thread soon with all the current changes......I think more people might suddenly be interested in MP5ks and similar sized guns if they don't require any paperwork.....

It's a bit of a niche obsession of mine.





If autistic ******ation combined with just being weird was a picture.......this is it.


Pretty sure vast majority of the gun nerds are touched with the 'tism of some sort and to some degree.
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I really want a Skorpion
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maverick2076 said:

I really want a Skorpion


They are awesome. Super neat design.
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Eliminatus said:


Pretty sure vast majority of the gun nerds are touched with the 'tism of some sort and to some degree.


Best part of the 'tism is giving zero Fs whether the people who are crying into their dinner over Ruger not making M77s like the guns you own or not.
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The push on sbrs and suppressors has been cool.

FRTs are cool too.



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I think you need a puzzle piece bumper sticker now. I like the collection.
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Gunny456
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What does liking Rugers have anything to do with these firearms? I happen to like Rugers and the ones you have as well. I like all guns.
TAMU Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences

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Gunny456 said:

What does liking Rugers have anything to do with these firearms? I happen to like Rugers and the ones you have as well. I like all guns.


They are a blast


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BenderRodriguez said:

Eliminatus said:


Pretty sure vast majority of the gun nerds are touched with the 'tism of some sort and to some degree.


Best part of the 'tism is giving zero Fs whether the people who are crying into their dinner over Ruger not making M77s like the guns you own or not.


That's hilarious because 100% of us fudds disappointed with the Ruger M77 news support your right to own your bizarre little 'pdw ' or whatever you call it collection.
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CactusThomas said:

BenderRodriguez said:


Best part of the 'tism is giving zero Fs whether the people who are crying into their dinner over Ruger not making M77s like the guns you own or not.


That's hilarious because 100% of us fudds disappointed with the Ruger M77 news support your right to own your bizarre little 'pdw ' or whatever you call it collection.


I know reading is hard and all, but I said "like". Not "want to ban".

But thanks for wandering by and proving my point with a snide little insult like I knew you or another like you would.

If I cried about how ugly a wood stocked gun was every time one was posted like some of yall do anytime something invented past 1947 is posted, I'd think I sure was being an ass for no reason.

But everyone needs a hobby, I guess.
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Can't we all just get along?
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To be clear, Core Lokts came out in 1939. So it's everything after 1939, not 1947.
I don’t say this in a braggedocious way. But it’s true. I’ve been right about everything.

-Donald J Trump
-9/22/2025



Gunny456
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Most all the firearms, if not all, that are being dropped by Ruger were all built after 1947. I fail to understand where he comes up with that date. Just saying.
TAMU Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences

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CactusThomas
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Sturm Ruger was founded in 1949.
Gunny456
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My point exactly.
TAMU Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences

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