Deerdude said:
OK, wrong terminology for the enlightened, it's what the field guys call it. That's who I deal with. Not the first time I've said the wrong word for the situation. My apologies.
GottaRide said:JB!98 said:shiftyandquick said:RGV AG said:
When we moved to the Valley in the early 80's, around 82', and for years after that you would see all the signs along the roads and such. My memory fades nowadays but I want to say that the place making the sterile fly's in Mission, it was at the old Moore Field airbase, was in operation until the mid-80's when it was all transitioned to Mexico. There were news stories and articles and I wanna say someone I grew up with had a dad involved in it.
As a kid my parents would drive back and forth from CDMX to Houston, and other parts, at least 2 to 3 times a year. On those trips there were always several agriculture checkpoints on the Mexican highways, I remember those. We usually traveled with dogs and if the check point saw the dogs in the car they would pull you over and inspect. Surprisingly enough crossing the border with dogs in the 1970's, and according to my parents in the 60's as well, was a much more formal deal, it was nothing in the 80's through the 20's. I now believe it was due to the screw worm, but I was too young to know.
There were strict quarantine areas and controls in Mexico for years (that lots of folks circumented I am sure). In the late 80's and through the 90's when I was spending a lot of time roaming around Northern Mex, and doing as much hunting and fishing as possible, I know ranchers would occasionally run into screw worm issues but they were very secretive about it as they had no faith in the MexGov to help them with it.
Where I lived in Central America it was around, and never went away completely, but it was not treated with the dire alarm that we are seeing in the U.S.. Why? I have no idea. I am not an ag man at all, so all of this is just purely observation from an unknowing point of view.
In the quarantined areas now, all transported warm-blooded animals are required to be inspected before they can leave the area. That includes pets (e.g. dogs).
I am not concerned at all about this, but this may be the place (as always) to settle this with my wife. She is concerned that we are taking our Pyrenees and Aussie to Concan next week to hang out on the river. We will be there 4 days. She is determined that the dogs have to be inspected before we can leave the county. I don't believe that to be the case in that they are not living in the county. (Unless they have a lesion or cut)
What say you TexAgs? If we have to get them inspected on the way back, we will do it, but if not, I contend that is so low risk that it is almost comical.
Concan is not in the infected zone- just the surveillance zone. No inspection is required unless leaving the infected zone.
GottaRide said:GottaRide said:JB!98 said:shiftyandquick said:RGV AG said:
When we moved to the Valley in the early 80's, around 82', and for years after that you would see all the signs along the roads and such. My memory fades nowadays but I want to say that the place making the sterile fly's in Mission, it was at the old Moore Field airbase, was in operation until the mid-80's when it was all transitioned to Mexico. There were news stories and articles and I wanna say someone I grew up with had a dad involved in it.
As a kid my parents would drive back and forth from CDMX to Houston, and other parts, at least 2 to 3 times a year. On those trips there were always several agriculture checkpoints on the Mexican highways, I remember those. We usually traveled with dogs and if the check point saw the dogs in the car they would pull you over and inspect. Surprisingly enough crossing the border with dogs in the 1970's, and according to my parents in the 60's as well, was a much more formal deal, it was nothing in the 80's through the 20's. I now believe it was due to the screw worm, but I was too young to know.
There were strict quarantine areas and controls in Mexico for years (that lots of folks circumented I am sure). In the late 80's and through the 90's when I was spending a lot of time roaming around Northern Mex, and doing as much hunting and fishing as possible, I know ranchers would occasionally run into screw worm issues but they were very secretive about it as they had no faith in the MexGov to help them with it.
Where I lived in Central America it was around, and never went away completely, but it was not treated with the dire alarm that we are seeing in the U.S.. Why? I have no idea. I am not an ag man at all, so all of this is just purely observation from an unknowing point of view.
In the quarantined areas now, all transported warm-blooded animals are required to be inspected before they can leave the area. That includes pets (e.g. dogs).
I am not concerned at all about this, but this may be the place (as always) to settle this with my wife. She is concerned that we are taking our Pyrenees and Aussie to Concan next week to hang out on the river. We will be there 4 days. She is determined that the dogs have to be inspected before we can leave the county. I don't believe that to be the case in that they are not living in the county. (Unless they have a lesion or cut)
What say you TexAgs? If we have to get them inspected on the way back, we will do it, but if not, I contend that is so low risk that it is almost comical.
Concan is not in the infected zone- just the surveillance zone. No inspection is required unless leaving the infected zone.
Looks like my info was outdated. Uvalde County has a confirmed case and Concan does appear to be in the infected zone. Checkpoints are only for livestock, though. The order and what is in practice are not the same.
BrazosDog02 said:
Meh...he's not defending anyone. He told us exactly why he said what he did. On top of that, we all knew what he meant and it really isn't a big deal. JFC.
Posters could explain what a vaccine is in a concise, educational way. No need to call out a poster so they can show everyone how much they think they know.
bmfvet said:
The canine dosing for ivermectin is not protective for screw worms.
BrazosDog02 said:
Meh...he's not defending anyone. He told us exactly why he said what he did. On top of that, we all knew what he meant and it really isn't a big deal. JFC.
Posters could explain what a vaccine is in a concise, educational way. No need to call out a poster so they can show everyone how much they think they know.
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It's high time we use science based information and even the right terminology wherever possible.
BrazosDog02 said:
My post isn't remotely about dogs but no matter. Your statement has spurred another question: Why doesn't texags have a VET tag? Doctors get it. I pay my vet a pile of money to come to my ranches and do his thing and make sure I'm getting current, experienced information for NWS and otherwise. Seems like having a way to know who is credentialed and practicing in the field right now would be handy, especially since squelching of misinformation is important.
96ags said:
Perhaps they haven't updated the website lately, but USDA is still showing 32 cases and no new cases in the last few days.
That would be great news if accurate.
96ags said:
Perhaps they haven't updated the website lately, but USDA is still showing 32 cases and no new cases in the last few days.
That would be great news if accurate.
This is actually an interesting debate. I won't pretend to know the answer, but it really comes down to two questions in my mind.shiftyandquick said:
Should Mexican cattle be allowed to cross the border now that screwworm is already here? Some producers and feedlots depend on that and they are hurting. Being debated by this administration.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/15/trump-screwworm-pressure-open-border-mexican-cattle-00995699
BQ_90 said:
then that leads to another question, do we trust Mexico to the job needed on inspection. I think there is too much corruption in that country to think inspectors wouldn't be bought off.
So if we can't do the inspections i wouldn't want to open up the border
RGV AG said:
If I am not mistaken the USDA has their own employees that do the cattle inspections in Mex before the herd or lot, or whatever a grouping of for export cattle is called, is shipped to the US. I recall it being this way in the past, don't know about recently.
Kinda like the Avocado inspectors.
