rlb28 said:
The Testimony That Pushed Camp Mystic's Leaders to Announce It Will Not Reopen in 2026
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DannyDuberstein said:
SMH at some of the comments. Some worshippers calling it things like a witch hunt, etc. What people will cling to is always mind-boggling. Sure seems like Dick was a force of nature that had so many cowed, even in death.
BrazosDog02 said:DannyDuberstein said:
SMH at some of the comments. Some worshippers calling it things like a witch hunt, etc. What people will cling to is always mind-boggling. Sure seems like Dick was a force of nature that had so many cowed, even in death.
It is indeed quite a marvel to behold. But you have to remember, many of these campers come from deep pocketed, connected, and influential families or at the minimum, upper middle class families. These aren't kids of Cletus down at the loading dock. The Eastlands served as vessels to allow these young girls to move up in society and start fostering a solid social network. It has already been noted in this thread that this was not just about 'having a good time at camp'. It might have been for the girls, but for the parents, it's the leg up for the kids in society. It maintained their family name. Their children's status depended on it. We can squeal all we want over how terrible it is that Camp Mystic wanted to open this year, but for whatever reason, we seem to overlook the fact that there were almost 850 applications who DGAF and enrolled for camp pressuring them to do so.
BrazosDog02 said:
We keep hearing about the same lawsuits and the same families....anyone know the status of the ones that haven't filed lawsuits?
Gator92 said:
Any chance the lawsuits are put into a class and moved to Federal Court?
highpriorityag said:
Well they are closed this summer so 800 parents will have to find another camp built in a flood zone to ship their kids too
If I am sending my kid somewhere for 2 weeks, I would assume the risk to their life is close to zero. I don't think having a camp built in a flood zone is anywhere close to zero. I never thought to send my kids there just because we didn't really do summer camps but if I had and something happened I would want accountability.
Would I have researched that river and where the cabins were before I sent my kids there? I don't know, but I would assume the owners did!
dermdoc said:
Seems reasonable to me that Dick should be in the office delegating jobs like measuring the rising water. And obviously there should have been walkie talkie communication between Dic and all the workers.
Marvin_Zindler said:Gator92 said:
Any chance the lawsuits are put into a class and moved to Federal Court?
Not at all. No diversity of citizenship that would be a threshold jurisdictional requirement to get to federal court, amongst other barriers to that happening.
Gator92 said:Marvin_Zindler said:Gator92 said:
Any chance the lawsuits are put into a class and moved to Federal Court?
Not at all. No diversity of citizenship that would be a threshold jurisdictional requirement to get to federal court, amongst other barriers to that happening.
Since the plaintiffs are all from the same state?
sellthefarm said:dermdoc said:
Seems reasonable to me that Dick should be in the office delegating jobs like measuring the rising water. And obviously there should have been walkie talkie communication between Dic and all the workers.
And what about the PA? Did they have a camp wide PA?
Alta said:
That is not correct as one of the potential plaintiffs is from Alabama.
Alta said:
How's that wrong? One potential plaintiffs (who may or may not sue) is not from Texas. The question was is there any way this could become a class action lawsuit and removed to federal court. It's possible on diversity grounds as a potential plaintiffs (who could end up suing and be a member of the class) and all one needs is minimal diversity.
It's obviously much more complicated than this with various exceptions, etc. to challenge removal but one cannot simply say it's not at all possible.
dermdoc said:
If anybody watches the Dr. Phil videos and claim the parents are money grabbers need their butts kicked. And there have been posters on here and said that. Disgraceful. Of course, they will never take the time to watch the videos.
maverick2076 said:
I highly doubt they are personally writing these letters. They are drafted by a lawyer or public affairs cunsultant.
Senator Blutarski said:
Houston Chronicle OPED
Senator Blutarski said:
It's two separate camps, with separate entrances, separate facilities, separate activity areas.
ETA a quote from the oped: " And better than most families, we understand the alacrity and horrific power of the July 4 flood. One of my sisters and my niece also lost their lives that night not at Camp Mystic, but at the vacation home my parents built in 1976, three miles downriver from Camp Mystic's site on the Guadalupe."
" But not in July 2025. In a matter of minutes the floodwaters forced open the bolted front door. Rushing water crested over the house with such force that it was swept off its foundation, taking my niece and my sister with it."
