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That's my experience exactly! Except I didn't take a shot, I was exhausted and figured I'd have plenty of opportunities, after all, it was my first day! 6 years (and lots of hunts and moose and bear sightings) later I finally got a nice bull. Then another bull the next hunt, then a cow on the next...
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Nice. Glad to here there's hope.

I try not to replay that first year, first day miss in my head, but it always creeps in. A reminder that I'm not done chasing elk.
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Bull down teaser...
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Yes my thoughts exactly. The night before we packed in I remember laughing to myself at guys that were planning on hunting from the cabins all week. Well the day we packed back to the cabins from our drop camp (day 2 of season) one of those guys drove up to the lodge with a 5x5 in his truck and I wasn't laughing any more. He had hunted our same basin opening morning, realized they weren't there, bombed down to a lower trailhead in his truck and found a bull by sundown opening day. Being mobile and having back up plans for sure is the way to go. Im kicking myself for not having the whole unit(s) downloaded to my onX app on my phone with several spots pre scouted to hit would have helped a ton.
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If it makes you feel any better I know exactly where you were from those photos. It was due north of where we hunted and at about 1000' lower. I shot my bull about 2000' above your location a couple of miles south of there and Urses was about 1000'+ above me up top to the south when I pulled the trigger. Completely different situation than when we hunted.

I would have been lost on where to hunt with that much snow as well. From what you said, I would have done the same things you did. The only thing I might have done differently would have been to push farther north and lower if still not seeing sign by day 4. I bet you learned a lot.
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I'm just now starting to catch up at home and work. Once I have, I may share a more detailed story of my British Columbia Mountain Goat hunt. It was an incredible adventure. Everything I wanted in a goat hunt; a physically demanding but beautiful grind. Lots of flights, horses, learning, and calories spent. The only disappointment is that my buddy didn't get one too. I now know these guided hunts are far from a guarantee. He went step-for-step with me and never once got discouraged or complained. He even managed to film my hunt. I hope to share more details and pictures once I get time. Here are some of my favorites:













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PFG said:

Nice. Glad to here there's hope.
Didn't necessarily mean that to be encouraging, unless it's encouraging that you're halfway through the curse!

arrow: Congrats! Great pics! Bucket lister for sure! However, the picture of you sitting on a ridge looking across a deeeeep valley is something I never ever do. You're sure to see something you will never be able to get to and/or find once you're there
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Yep, I remember the basin that you said you hunted and killed your bull in. That's the trailhead we hiked up on day 4 and where we finally go into some cows. The last two pictures I posted are from the evening of day 4 just off of lost lakes trail. Some pretty decent incline on parts of that trail. The trail had thawed out and got muddy the day before and then frozen rock solid that night which actually was pretty tough on the feet on the way up, and equally tough not to slip and slide down on the way down. Where the trail splits I went north on the west side of the burn and got up to 11,000 (trailhead is 9,200) before we stopped seeing sign and turned around to find a place to sit and glass the burn that evening. We ran into 2 guys from NY that day that had been hunting there for 4 years, at that basin and one other, and had killed 9 bulls. Both were going home empty handed, said the day before the season they saw a herd of 60 elk leaving that basin.
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NRD09 said:


However, the picture of you sitting on a ridge looking across a deeeeep valley is something I never ever do. You're sure to see something you will never be able to get to and/or find once you're there
Actually that's exactly where we had to go to get this billy. It was looong day!
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Congrats man! Looks like a heck of a hunt and a ton of a fun. Aweseom trip for sure.
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goodlawd that sixth picture is awesome
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I mean fifth
agenjake
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This is really quite the cross-section of hunts on this thread. I sure love South Texas stand hunting, but I am quickly addicted to hunting out west.

What a fun year, and rifle season hasn't even started this year down here.
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Awesome! Congrats brother!!!

That pic with you taking your hat off... that PERFECTY captures the essence high country hunting! -> "hard work, hard work, hard work, hard work, YEAH!, oh crap more hard work..."
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Thanks for sharing the story. Sorry for the frustrating hunt. Dealing with weather is 1 thing... with seemingly unprepared professionals... that's beyond frustrating. Way to go in keeping g chins up and making a true hunt out of it, even if there was no killin to be done.
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AgEng06 said:

Bull down teaser...


Congrats!!!!

And we wait..........
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Well, got my little brother on one this morning as well. His is much bigger than mine.

Will update with pics and story once we get back to Texas. Just happen to have spotty service in camp so wanted to check in with you fellas.
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Weak. Post pics. Doo it now!
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AgEng06 said:

Well, got my little brother on one this morning as well. His is much bigger than mine.


A hacksaw will fix that problem... jk! Way to go to the little bro!
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Eh, not in this case.
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LEJ said:

Eh, not in this case.
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AgLA06
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Where the hell is the story and photos?
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I'm too lazy and exhausted to get it done today. Maybe tomorrow...
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Boooo this man. Photos and stories.
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Ok, ok... standby.
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AgEng06 said:

Ok, ok... standby.


What the hell do you think we've been doing while you've posted "grab ass" as my father would say for the last couple days.

Slacker!!!
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Alright, you degenerates...

tl;dr - My brother and I both tagged out on a DIY OTC public land elk hunt in Colorado.

Here is the recap of my first elk hunt. This was DIY in Colorado, OTC 2nd Rifle. Our group included me, my brother, my dad, and a childhood buddy (Sam). Since I was the only one with any Western hunting experience, I pretty much headed up the planning and execution of our hunt.

We left Madison Co. around noon on Friday the 19th and drove straight through to Cortez, CO. We got to Cortez around 6:00 am Saturday the 20th and hit the local Walmart for a few last minute supplies and a Denny's for some breakfast, before heading out to our hunting area.

We got our camp set up and did a little bit of exploring/spotting on Saturday afternoon, only turning up a few mule deer (does and a spike). Sunday and Monday were more of the same... exploring the area and looking for elk, or at least elk sign, and spotting mule deer. We found LOTS of mule deer and bear sign, but only a little elk sign. Around noon on Monday, we ran into a cowboy on horseback looking for some stray cattle. He reiterated what we thought... that because of the drought there hadn't been much moisture in higher elevations, and thus the elk weren't in the area like they should be. He gave us a few tips where he had been seeing the most sign while tracking cattle, so we headed that direction Monday evening.

Spotting was unfruitful on Monday evening. It also rained Monday night, so we slept in a little bit and spent Tuesday morning riding the road on the SxS and doing some exploring. We turned up some fresh elk tracks crossing the road, but ultimately ending up on private land. To this point, we still had not seen an elk.

On Tuesday afternoon, we decided to split up our rifles (only my brother and I had tags) and cover two different areas. My dad and brother went to an area about 1.5 miles west of camp where we had found a secluded water source. Sam and I went into an area that I had wanted to check out from the beginning, but hadn't yet because it was about 3 miles east of camp.

Sam and I covered about 10 miles through various terrain. We found lots of sign - mule deer, bear, and even elk, but still couldn't locate the elk. We found some very cool spots though. This meadow below is tucked between two ridges at around 8,000 feet.



On the way out of this area, we ran into another hunter with a cow tag. He hadn't seen any cows, but told us about 2 5x5 bulls and a spike he had seen bedded earlier that morning. We weren't sure exactly where he had seen them, but headed to the general area to see if we could locate those bulls. That proved unfruitful, so we decided to sit a water hole for the last hour or so of daylight and see if one of the bulls might come in to water.

After sitting for 30 minutes or so, Sam decided to get up and spot a small valley behind us. Almost immediately he spotted a single elk, which we confirmed was a small bull. He was headed over a ridge to the east of us, so we bailed off of our spot with rifle and binos in hand and hurried to cut him off. After run/walking about 0.6 miles, we located the bull feeding in a small meadow. We had about 15 minutes left of shooting light, so I hurried to get in position. My first shot was at ~165 yards, and I believe I missed him. I'm not sure how that happened, but I was squatting down, rested on my knee, and obviously breathing hard from both the trek over and adrenaline. He turned and ran slightly toward us as I stood up. My 2nd shot hit back in his ribs. He stopped and looked at me, quartering forward and to the left. My 3rd shot hit him in the shoulder and dropped him. He was still struggling to get up, so I put another one in his neck that finished him off. My first elk was down! He is a small/young 5x4, but I couldn't be happier.



It was getting dark and we were about 3.2 miles to the SxS, so we took a couple quick pics and got to work breaking him down. We hiked the meat parts (straps & loins), head, and 1 hindquarter in the first trip. We left the other three quarters hanging in some oak brush. We made it back to camp around 12:30 am and decided to get some rest and go back in the morning for the rest of the meat (also that would allow my brother to go as well and help out).



We carried the rest of the meat out Wednesday morning. That afternoon my dad and I drove into town for some ice and a bottle of whiskey, while Sam and my brother we back to the same general area in search of the other bull that was allegedly in the area. They didn't turn up anything. That night there was some discussion of whether or not they wanted to go ahead and pack up Thursday morning and head home early. I convinced everyone to stay and hunt Thursday, because I really wanted to get my brother on an elk as well.

Thursday morning, all four of us headed back into the same area I killed my bull. We spotted some elk wayyy up on the side of a big ridge about a mile away. As far as we could tell, they were all cows. My dad and I went to spot a different valley while Sam and my brother climbed up a side ridge to look into the area where we had seen the cows. It didn't take long before we heard a shot ringing out through the valley. My brother had shot his first elk (a good 5x5)! His shot him at 415 yards across the canyon, with his .375 H&H magnum. The bullet was a complete pass-through on both shoulders. The bull ran about 50 yards down hill and crashed into the thickest oak brush around. In fact, the whole hillside where he shot him was extremely thick oak brush. Since we were all around for the quartering and packing, I was able to snap some pics. You can see the thickness and slope of the ridge here. The pack out for this one was just over 4 miles, with the first 1/2 mile or so being down that oak brush ridge and then up another.






Here is my dad, brother, and me at the bottom of the hill (after the first 1/2 mile of his packout). His bull was killed about half way up the farthest ridge over his head in this pic (just below the cedar/juniper line).




A few other pics back at camp:







And a few landscape and misc pics:












Overall, it was a freakin' fantastic trip with my dad and brother. We never expected we would kill one elk, much less tag out with two public land bulls on our first try. I know my dad really enjoyed all of our time together and all of us are talking about how we can/will do things differently or improve things next year!
agenjake
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Yessir! Heck of a trip.
AgLA06
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Awesome! Welcome to the sickness.
Charismatic Megafauna
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Sounds like a great trip with a great group! Congrats!
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I'm impressed by the mere fact that you humped a .375 around in the mountains as an elk rifle. Guess I'll take my .416 Rigby next year to hopefully one up y'all.
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Ha, I agree with you. That was my big little bro carrying that thing around.

Edit: he said the rifle weighed in at 10.3 lbs. Haha.
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Awesome! Congrats and thanks for sharing the memories with us! Nothing quite like your first elk...
 
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