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Casa Gringo - Central Texas Barndominium Build

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Any luck on the updated CAD drawings for dimensions?
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I try to keep the mid-week updates to a minimum, but yesterday was a small milestone (or 2).

Front porch and parking area were poured. We've been anxious to see the front porch in concrete to determine if the size is good. I think we're good, it looks HUGE in person.





Shop area pad is going down today



The other small milestone yesterday was the first interior wall got stood up and bolted down.

Hopefully Chris approves of my method to try and keep his floor protected:

Measured out where the wall should be and made an "incision" in the floor protection



Popped a chalk line



Bolted the wall down





And then not pictured, layed the floor protection back in place and stapled it to the new bottom plate.

Cleaned up floor plan test:

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Great progress!

A couple comments;

The floor plan works great now and is easy to read. I'll restrain the Architect in me since it's way too late to make suggestions.

I didn't realize that was covered parking on the side. I wrongly assumed it was an additional outdoor covered space like an outdoor lounge or dining area. I guess I assumed you'd park in the shop.

Personal taste aside, the floors look like they came out great!
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Fire away AgLA. I'm an engineer by trade, definitely not an architect. My mind puts utilitarian ahead of aesthetics so things came out very square (but that is hard to avoid when you're confined to a rectangular barn). I'd be very interested in knowing what a professional would have done differently. Not going to hurt my feelings, if anything I'll remember the comments for the next one!
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These comments aren't "you should have done this instead" so please don't take them that way. More, what if you did this to see if it would work and you like it type of questions.

I can see putting the bedroom 2 door off the hallway to create a little more privacy and separate it a little more from the living room. However if you shifted the bedroom entry to the living room wall it would free up more usable space for an additional closet or overflow pantry or bar on the hallway. However, the entrance to the bedroom would now be directly from the living room. Your plans on furniture layout and anticipated frequency of use of bedroom 2 would play into this decision.

If the shop is to be used as a business, this thought is probably irrelevant. And considering slab and plumbing are set it really doesn't matter this time. However, if the shop was personal use and bedroom 2 is a guest room I probably would not have had a third bathroom and shifted bathroom too (or swapped with the mudroom) yo make bathroom two dual purpose shop / guest bath. One less bathroom to clean and much cheaper.

Again, these are just what if thoughts. I like what you're doing with this project.
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I've set a goal of having the shop bathroom and doghouse ready for "move-in" by the end of the month. Doghouse is basically done. Bathroom framing was completed this weekend and ready for plumbing. I stumbled upon a good deal for the Viega PEX tools I needed so hopefully this coming weekend we get the plumbing knocked out (depending on parts availability).

With the shop bath framing done, we were able to refocus on interior walls. The master bedroom now lacks 1/2 of one wall. Master closet is done. Master bath and laundry room are both 1/2 done.





You may notice the floor protection is pulled back in the above photos......We had a little excitement this weekend.....

Helluva little storm passed through. HEAVY rain and strong winds for 30-45 minutes. The genius's I had lay the stone for the wainscot did not leave ANY weep holes. The wind was able to blow the water between the metal flashing an the top cap of the stone, eventually filling up the 1.5" brick-ledge. The only place for the water to go after the 1.5" was on to the slab. We were able to get the water off with a shop vac and I drilled a few weep holes during the tail end of the storm. Water wasn't on the floor for more than an hour. Talked to Chris at Texas Concrete Design and he told me no permanent damage (if any damage) would result.





I mentioned this to Chris - I always look for a silver lining in everything. The silver lining with the water is that we got to see large portions of the floors "finished" for the first time. And I don't know if it's the same situation as never thinking your own kid is ugly, but these are some of the best looking stained floors I've ever seen.
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Good thing it happened now when only framing is up. Who were the lazy masons? (So we know not to use them.)
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Had a side project come up that took a few weekends to get done. But there has been progress!!

The entire ground floor is now framed, save the 2nd bedroom closet and the hall closet.

2nd Bed and Bath / livingroom

Kitchen/Laundry/Master Suite


We also got the breaker box/building ground rod in the ground. Doesn't sound like much but that is a feat up here with the rock. We didn't have that back home on the gulf coast.

This week after work I hope to get most of the 2nd top plates on and then finish the walls this weekend and start straightening and bracing walls in prep for truss measurements.

Daniel - The guy I used was local and only does it on the side. I knew I shouldn't have used him but had a lapse in judgement. Just make sure you use someone who does it for a living and you'll be fine.
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Fell off my watchlist.
locogringo
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Mine too kinda
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Glad to see the floors stayed dry during the couple large downpours that have gone through the Hill country lately.
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Looking great!
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Looks good loco - mind if I ask what your budget is? I need to start planning something similar.

TIA
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Why not just build a house?
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texrover91 said:

Looks good loco - mind if I ask what your budget is? I need to start planning something similar.

TIA

I don't have any land cost in the numbers below. Price per acre varies so much across the state and even by the amount of land you buy. I also rounded some numbers, so if you check my math it may not make 100% sense.

Just the structure (Concrete and the metal building, on the ground and "installed"): $17.50/sq.ft.

The living area (excluding any part of the structure above) : Shooting for $73/sq.ft. but preparing for $102/sq.ft.

The living area (including just the living portion of the structure above) : Shooting for $90/sq/ft. but preparing for $120/sq.ft

The whole barnhouse (includes all the structure and the finish out of living area) : Shooting for $47/sq/ft. but preparing for $58/sq.ft
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Does that include septic and power?
Road/access?
Gas?
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jfbdvm said:

Why not just build a house?

Many reasons:

  • Because then I'd have to build a shop too.
  • What if it's raining? You want me to walk outside to the shop? like a caveman or something?
  • Some claim that in the end Barndo's are cheaper /sq.ft.
  • Priorities. Wanted a shop, had to throw a house in it to justify.

Joking aside. We've always liked the idea and look of barn houses. Some people say it ends up cheaper (yet to be seen, but will report when it's all done). This is not the last house we will live in so we thought we'd give it a shot. Will have to build a traditional one next to do an honest comparison to include all the DIY aspects.
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thann07 said:

Does that include septic and power?
Road/access?
Gas?
You're making me open all my spreadsheets......If I find out I'm over budget, it's on you.


Septic is included

Road is not because I don't know what I'm doing yet (gravel vs. recycled asphalt)

no gas on this project.


Structure only - $16/sq.ft.

Living area (no structure) - currently at $50

Living with structure - currently at $67
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Thx loco-that's what I was looking for!
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Thanks.

Hey, I'm in the planning stages of one of these myself. It may be 10 years before it happens, but I'd be a lot happier living on our place with my eyes on the cows every day. If nothing else, having our own place for the wife to stay in on the weekends would be worth it!
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Sorry for the lack of updates. Progress has been made, but nothing TexAgs worthy. Just a bunch of small stuff that doesn't change the overall look.

Monday/Tuesday after Kentucky game should have a good update - trusses should be on site (and maybe a few installed)

Father-in-law brought his drone a few weekends ago. Did a few shots and a flyover video of the place. I don't want to be "that guy" so I edited out the parts where he unknowingly got over neighbors land or had video a little too close. All the land in the video is owned by my boss so its free flying.

From the pasture across the road:


Coming up driveway a bit:



Big lean-to side:


Rear:


shot f the side of the oaks we started cleaning, will finish up this winter:



Video:



locogringo
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Not much fun-to-look-at progress this weekend. Lots of clean-up and getting ready for trusses on Friday. These will be 2' tall trusses that are the 1st floor ceiling / 2nd floor floor. All of the plumbing, electrical, and ducting will be run within these trusses.

But here is at least something to look at.

Had my first experience with PEX. So far so good, 12 crimps, 0 leaks (knock on wood). These were the hose bibs around the outside of the house.

Fishing it in


View from inside. Just realized I don't have a pic, but these were just connected with a 90



I'm using Viega FostaPex which is a PEX with an aluminum and plastic (PEX?) sleeve around the outside of the standard PEX. I believe it is refered to as PEX-AL-PEX (pex-aluminum-pex). Because of this extra layer the end of the pipe must be "reamed". This allows the standard PEX connections to be used.

Connections all done and water supply turned back on.


I still need to make some sort of mount for each bib to hold them against the wall.

I also got my breaker box connected to it's ground rod.

Rod coming into the house and tied onto the metal building (bonding?)


Making its way to the box. ~8 inches above finished floor. Routed through 2 90 degree corners, much eaiser than expected.


Up to box. not sure if zip-ties are to code, but it'll work.



Connection inside box. It ties to a separate grounding bar, then that bar is tied to the neutral bus bar.


I don't fully understand electrical but I do have a professional electrician that will come help me lay out the circuits and double check this type of stuff. But to my understanding my neutral is bonded to the box (by the green screw at the lower left of the panel) thus, all the bare wires and white wires can/will terminate on the neutral bar. And with the new connection show above, now the box and the metal building are bonded neutral as well.

If there are any electricians here, feel free to correct me if I'm off on that.
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We have a 2nd floor. Kinda. What we really have is a bunch of work to get done, no more waiting on stuff.

Trusses unloaded from truck


Moved inside and some staged around the house







Started placing them up top





Not bad for half days work



Took Monday off to make up for the day lost to the game. Started decking the 2nd floor



Working solo requires building an extra set of hands




The "jack" ended up working pretty good. I could slide the sheet up it to rest on the higher cross piece. Then from on top, pull the sheet up onto the floor.

I ran a bead of Liquid Nails on top of every truss just before placing the sheet. Then screwed the sheet down every 12", I did every 6" on edges of the sheets. The sheets are 23/32" Tongue and Groove pine plywood (not OSB).

Master bedroom area decked



Still have a handful of trusses to set in place (the 2nd bed and bath area). I used the master bedroom area as a "test" to figure out how the process would go. All the trusses outside of this area are just sitting in place, not attached. So this week I hope to fine tune placement and screw down remaining trusses. Then start on decking the remaining space.

Once the 2nd floor is decked, we will focus on the 2nd bathroom. Hope is to get it temporarily usable and put our current house on the market by the end of the month. Mrs. Gringo had a good idea of getting the For Sale sign in the front yard for Halloween for the high traffic volume. If the house sells before the barndo is drywalled, we will move into the doghouse and the 2nd bath.
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It's a minor detail, but it might save you some frustration down the road if you make your bib mount for your outside hose bibs large enough to accommodate a faucet cover. It looks like they are sticking out far enough from the wall that would make it difficult to fit one of these over and sealed against the wall.

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Quote:

The sheets are 23/32" Tongue and Groove pine plywood (not OSB).
As someone who started their career in plywood manufacturing, I salute you for choosing plywood over OSB
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The barndo looks great, can't wait to see the finished product. 1 question though, why did you put the master bath in the closet? seems like a hallway there would be much mire visually pleasing, or switching their places.
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1939 said:

The barndo looks great, can't wait to see the finished product. 1 question though, why did you put the master bath in the closet? seems like a hallway there would be much mire visually pleasing, or switching their places.

I guess in my mind I'm considering the 3'(ish) wide strip between master bedroom and master bath a "hallway" of sorts. I think the layout of the closet storage will help define this as well (which you can't see on the layouts posted). We put the master bath behind the closet in an effort to isolate the noise from the main living area and kitchen. Swapping the master closet and master bath would also require swapping the master toilet room and the laundry. This would put all of the master bath fixtures with only 1 or 2 walls between them and the kitchen.

More likely, the main reason is that this is our first build from scratch, including a layout we developed with no professional input. It's a learning experience to say the least!

I love hearing everyone's opinion on things though, hopefully it will make the next one even better.
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locogringo said:

thann07 said:

Does that include septic and power?
Road/access?
Gas?
You're making me open all my spreadsheets......If I find out I'm over budget, it's on you.


Septic is included

Road is not because I don't know what I'm doing yet (gravel vs. recycled asphalt)

no gas on this project.


Structure only - $16/sq.ft.

Living area (no structure) - currently at $50

Living with structure - currently at $67




If you don't mind me asking how much did just the foundation run?
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Just under $7/sq.ft. And that included bringing in a couple loads of crusher fines to build the pad up level. 5"-6" slab with 24"x 18" beams (if I remember correctly)
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We got the last of the trusses up that we need to in order to start finishing out the 2nd bath (temporarily) so we can move in. Also got a little further on the decking, now at a waiting point to finish the decking.



One thing I did not expect is how hard it is to choose a bath tub. So many options in style but not many places to go see them in person.
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There's Bathtubs-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Soak-Your-Butt-There. That's on third. Scrub Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the bathtub complex on third.
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blindey said:

There's Bathtubs-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Soak-Your-Butt-There. That's on third. Scrub Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the bathtub complex on third.

Oh, the bathtub district!
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Don't forget Marys bathtub is also on third . The good thing about Marys bathtubs is Mary gets in the tub with you
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Scriffer said:

blindey said:

There's Bathtubs-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Soak-Your-Butt-There. That's on third. Scrub Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the bathtub complex on third.

Oh, the bathtub district!


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Don't forget Marys bathtub is also on third . The good thing about Marys bathtubs is Mary gets in the tub with you

I don't know what the heck yall are talking about but it gave me some good luck. The Mrs. and I narrowed it down to 2 tubs. One was cheaper but we like the look of the other one better. Ended up choosing the cheaper one because it's the 2nd bathroom tub and the design wasn't THAT different. Well, I went to pick it up Tuesday morning, they decided to sell me the better looking one for the price of the cheaper one!

EDIT: forgot to add the photos



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aggieorbitalwelder said:

Don't forget Marys bathtub is also on third . The good thing about Marys bathtubs is Mary gets in the tub with you
I met me a nice one down there named Mary. Shes got a friend they call the Buffalo Heifer. I reckon she'd do for you boys.
 
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