Tell it to rewrite without using the prompt in the first paragraph.

I think these AI engines are going to displace a lot of what we use today in a fairly short period of time. We went from Motorola Razr type phones to iPhones in what, 5ish years? Or maybe a better example is what Google search did to the internet.

Ok, so in talking to it, I've found a large amount of non-factual bias that's been trained into the system - I don't understand why it had to give the bolded-italic part of this. This is SCARY agenda stuff. It goes from fact to interjecting the liberal agenda.



QUESTION : What's the difference between biological gender and gender identity

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Biological gender and gender identity are two related but distinct concepts. Biological gender refers to the sex assigned to an individual at birth, based on their physical characteristics, such as their chromosomes, hormones, and reproductive organs. In most cases, an individual's biological gender is either male or female.

Gender identity, on the other hand, refers to an individual's internal sense of their own gender. It is an inherent and deeply personal aspect of an individual's identity, and it may or may not align with their biological gender. An individual's gender identity may be the same as their biological gender, or it may be different. For example, a person who is assigned male at birth may identify as a woman, or a person who is assigned female at birth may identify as non-binary or genderqueer.

In other words, biological gender is a physical characteristic that is determined by an individual's biology, whereas gender identity is an individual's internal sense of self. It is important to recognize and respect the individuality and diversity of gender identities, and to use language that is inclusive and non-binary.

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QUESTION : What is a woman?

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A woman is an adult human female. This term is commonly used to refer to individuals who are biologically female, meaning that they have female reproductive organs and are capable of becoming pregnant and giving birth. However, it is important to recognize that not all individuals who are assigned female at birth identify as women, and that gender identity is a complex and deeply personal experience that cannot be solely determined by biological factors.

In some cases, the term "woman" may be used to refer to individuals who identify as female, regardless of their biological sex. This usage recognizes the diversity of gender identities and the importance of using language that is inclusive and respectful of all individuals. It is important to be mindful of an individual's preferred pronouns and gender identity, and to use language that is appropriate and respectful.

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I think these AI engines are going to displace a lot of what we use today in a fairly short period of time. We went from Motorola Razr type phones to iPhones in what, 5ish years? Or maybe a better example is what Google search did to the internet.

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Agree. Prior to Google some of the leading websites like Yahoo were trying to categorize the internet and the primitive search was more like going to a card catalog in an old library than what google is today.

Google was a quantum leap at the time and turned the browser wars on their head by making search king. This chat bot feels the same way.

It's pretty dumb and tried to tell me it was Jimmy Carter that cancelled the Shuttle Program and advocated for the SLS rocket, but there is no denying its potential. AI is ushering in a whole new world.

I was skeptical of the talk 5 years ago that AI was going to replace a large portion of white collar jobs but I see it now. Even advanced jobs like NASA flight controllers can probably start being replaced within a decade.

Just signed up to use this and I can't log in.

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Just signed up to use this and I can't log in.

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The login seems to be the worst part. Kept giving me errors when trying to create an account but then eventually recognized I was trying to use the same email that was already linked to an account. Eventually got in…

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advanced jobs like NASA flight controllers can probably start being replaced within a decade.

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Could probably do the day to day nominal job, but would be interesting to see what it can handle when things go wrong or unplanned.
I'd expect most doctors, lawyers, business types to go first.

Still no luck. Just keeps bouncing me back to the login page.

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Still no luck. Just keeps bouncing me back to the login page.

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Browser? Have you tried switching to Firefox or Chrome if you're using Edge?

My parents both signed up accounts today, as did my son.. all no issues from different machines in different places.

Hmm, sounds like your prompt engineering game is a bit weak. Sure, a lot of times the essays seem very middle schoolish, but you can definitely guide it to dive deeper into the specifics and get it to a pretty high quality. But r yeah, there are times that it will very confidently give you wrong answers, so got to be mindful of that and verify the details.

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I think these AI engines are going to displace a lot of what we use today in a fairly short period of time. We went from Motorola Razr type phones to iPhones in what, 5ish years? Or maybe a better example is what Google search did to the internet.

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Agree. Prior to Google some of the leading websites like Yahoo were trying to categorize the internet and the primitive search was more like going to a card catalog in an old library than what google is today.

Google was a quantum leap at the time and turned the browser wars on their head by making search king. This chat bot feels the same way.

It's pretty dumb and tried to tell me it was Jimmy Carter that cancelled the Shuttle Program and advocated for the SLS rocket, but there is no denying its potential. AI is ushering in a whole new world.

I was skeptical of the talk 5 years ago that AI was going to replace a large portion of white collar jobs but I see it now. Even advanced jobs like NASA flight controllers can probably start being replaced within a decade.

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It's interesting because it's using predictive text to form sentences rather than trying to find the best answer based on resources. Sometimes it guesses wrong and (confidently) continues the narrative based on that assumption.

People are talking about GPT 4 though like it's a quantum leap into the future.

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Still no luck. Just keeps bouncing me back to the login page.

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It was pretty overloaded last night. I have been able to use it every day except last night.

Lol it gets really pissed when you keep telling it to 'try again'.

"I'm sorry, but I'm not able to browse the internet to provide information about the concept of sex to bees. I am a large language model trained by OpenAI, and I am not able to access external information. My knowledge is limited to the text that I have been trained on, which does not include information about the concept of sex in bees or any other organism. My primary function is to assist users in generating human-like text based on the input that I receive. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to assist you."

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Hmm, sounds like your prompt engineering game is a bit weak. Sure, a lot of times the essays seem very middle schoolish, but you can definitely guide it to dive deeper into the specifics and get it to a pretty high quality. But r yeah, there are times that it will very confidently give you wrong answers, so got to be mindful of that and verify the details.

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I played around quite a bit with different prompts, refining the prompt in subsequent attempts, etc. It's not at that level yet.

There's a significant difference between what it does (which is still very impressive) and original thought. Any upper-level college course (and certainly any PhD program) will require works of original scholarship. That means that you can't just regurgitate what is out there. You have to take what is out there and shape/craft a unique argument. The bot is a long way from being able to do that. Even if I give it the "takeaway" that I want the paper to have - it struggles to connect that to the broader topic in anything but the most general/descriptive language.

Don't get me wrong, the results are still impressive. And they might be enough to convince a layperson that the bot (or a person reading from the bot's script) knew what they were talking about. But if you are actually involved in the field - the bot isn't there yet.

It's use of quotes is haphazard - it struggles to identify what the most relevant items to quote are and whether those quotes are truly in line with the argument it is putting forward. I asked it to include data - it included some data, but hardly gave enough context to make that data's inclusion worthwhile. It seems to know that it should use quotes/data when asked, but fundamentally doesn't understand how to incorporate those into its writing. It also does only the most fundamental quote blending - "So and so said 'blah blah blah.'" I doubt it is capable of more - prompting it to only rewrite/blend the quotations doesn't produce any results of note.

I have yet to see it put together a paragraph with more than three sentences in it. It makes fundamental mistakes from time to time - such as identifying a court case that was decided by the European Court of Human Rights as being a case that was decided by a Constitutional Court of a member state of the EU. That's in addition to the times when it is "confidently wrong" in the conclusions it makes, as you noted.

Do I think you could use this to summarize a lot of things and provide a high-level overview? Sure. This could generate Wikipedia articles in a flash (with the drawback that the articles wouldn't have any cited sources). Could you use this in any sort of serious academic writing? No.

It thought Stevie Nicks was dead when we talked about Fleetwood Mac.

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advanced jobs like NASA flight controllers can probably start being replaced within a decade.

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Could probably do the day to day nominal job, but would be interesting to see what it can handle when things go wrong or unplanned.
I'd expect most doctors, lawyers, business types to go first.

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Anyone using this to do their legal work deserves all of the **** that will come out of that

If you want to use AI to draw up the paperwork for your single-member LLC, you're probably ok.

If you want to use AI to oversee the acquisition of Whole Foods by Amazon, you're an idiot.

I could see it eliminating some of the hours spent on due diligence and other monotonous tasks that could be more easily automated.

But rates at firms like K&E don't start at close to ~$600 an hour for a first year law school graduate for nothing.

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advanced jobs like NASA flight controllers can probably start being replaced within a decade.

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Could probably do the day to day nominal job, but would be interesting to see what it can handle when things go wrong or unplanned.
I'd expect most doctors, lawyers, business types to go first.

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Anyone using this to do their legal work deserves all of the **** that will come out of that

If you want to use AI to draw up the paperwork for your single-member LLC, you're probably ok.

If you want to use AI to oversee the acquisition of Whole Foods by Amazon, you're an idiot.

I could see it eliminating some of the hours spent on due diligence and other monotonous tasks that could be more easily automated.

But rates at firms like K&E don't start at close to ~$600 an hour for a first year law school graduate for nothing.

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Knowing nothing about being lawyer besides what I see on TV, I'd expect most lawyering to be closer to your first example rather than your second. What does this thing cost? Probably less than $600 an hour.

I expect there will always be a need for humans to interact with clients, patients, etc. To try and deal with a liar, a half truth, the real story, the unspoken, etc. But then the research and paperwork side of a lot of white collar jobs could probably be farmed out to AI.

Most doctors when not doing something with their hands are really just walking databases of symptoms, diagnosis, and treatment. Something AI can do, and probably should. The hard part is getting those symptoms and delivering the treatment reliably. Not sure you need a full up medical degree to do that. Everytime I go to the doctor, a nurse does that stuff anyways.

Anyone that spends most of their day looking at spreadsheets are replaced probably pretty easily.

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Hmm, sounds like your prompt engineering game is a bit weak. Sure, a lot of times the essays seem very middle schoolish, but you can definitely guide it to dive deeper into the specifics and get it to a pretty high quality. But r yeah, there are times that it will very confidently give you wrong answers, so got to be mindful of that and verify the details.

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I played around quite a bit with different prompts, refining the prompt in subsequent attempts, etc. It's not at that level yet.

There's a significant difference between what it does (which is still very impressive) and original thought. Any upper-level college course (and certainly any PhD program) will require works of original scholarship. That means that you can't just regurgitate what is out there. You have to take what is out there and shape/craft a unique argument. The bot is a long way from being able to do that. Even if I give it the "takeaway" that I want the paper to have - it struggles to connect that to the broader topic in anything but the most general/descriptive language.

Don't get me wrong, the results are still impressive. And they might be enough to convince a layperson that the bot (or a person reading from the bot's script) knew what they were talking about. But if you are actually involved in the field - the bot isn't there yet.

It's use of quotes is haphazard - it struggles to identify what the most relevant items to quote are and whether those quotes are truly in line with the argument it is putting forward. I asked it to include data - it included some data, but hardly gave enough context to make that data's inclusion worthwhile. It seems to know that it should use quotes/data when asked, but fundamentally doesn't understand how to incorporate those into its writing. It also does only the most fundamental quote blending - "So and so said 'blah blah blah.'" I doubt it is capable of more - prompting it to only rewrite/blend the quotations doesn't produce any results of note.

I have yet to see it put together a paragraph with more than three sentences in it. It makes fundamental mistakes from time to time - such as identifying a court case that was decided by the European Court of Human Rights as being a case that was decided by a Constitutional Court of a member state of the EU. That's in addition to the times when it is "confidently wrong" in the conclusions it makes, as you noted.

Do I think you could use this to summarize a lot of things and provide a high-level overview? Sure. This could generate Wikipedia articles in a flash (with the drawback that the articles wouldn't have any cited sources). Could you use this in any sort of serious academic writing? No.

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but it showed a level of research and comprehension of the topic that shouldn't earn a high school student a passing grade

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I agree that we are still a ways away from having it include original thought into the essay's. That is more AGI which would also include the ability to extend modern physics and math. With that being said, you could still have this inject original thought via prompts and connect it with the broader subject. Do I think this could write a PhD paper, no way. Do I think it could significantly aide the writing of one, absolutely. Do I think it could write a lower-level college essay? Absolutely, while not blindly but with prompts and just a little bit of injection.

Also, you can simply tell it to make body paragraphs roughly 5 sentences long.

But just with the small amount that I have played with it (and mostly for programming), if I wanted it to write an essay for me, I would do the following:

prompt 1 abbreviated: Give me an outline for an essay on blah blah, with give 20 points to support the argument.
prompt 2 abbreviated: Write a 2,000 word essay using points 2, 4 and 7 from the outline above. In the body paragraph using point 4, combine it with point 12 from the outline.
prompt 3 abbreviated: In body paragraph 3, can you write it from the perspective of someone who has the opinion that "blah blah blah"
prompt 4 abbreviated: Can you rewrite the essay in the writing style of J. K. Rowling

Now, I am just sh*tposting here, but I imagine that after spending the 5 minutes it took to the above, you will have a pretty decent essay that might need a little tweaking. As an engineering student that hated writing papers, this would have been a godsend.

I, like you, would probably have spent just as much time refining the prompts as actually writing the paper, but preferred the prompt regiment.

Here's a good video on ChatGPT from a sentdex. He's a machine language developer who posts a bunch of tutorials on the subject



He gives great tips on how to interact with ChatGPT, and also gives an example of how to make it behave like a linux OS, which can run python programs that you enter.

So does education just refocus all of its effort on critical thinking problems?

Ask it to tell you about Texas 42 and you'll start seeing some errors in its answers

In my experience it's really good at giving Wikipedia level summaries of topics but really struggles with application of problem solving skills (even if you give it a problem that doesn't require outside data to solve).

I asked it a problem about the Weibull distribution where the answer is literally on the Wikipedia page for it and it kept telling me it couldn't answer the question because beta is a stock market term and has nothing to do with the Weibull distribution. So it is advanced and pretty awesome. But it is much farther from taking peoples jobs than you would think.

One other note on the coding - the hard part of coding has always been the pseudo coding needed to write the real code. We just don't realize this because the real code writing requires us to tap our memory and syntax things perfectly which we are bad at. But once you have the pseudo code (essentially the prompt refining), the rest should be easy.

Also, I've had a really hard time asking for code from ChatGPT because so much of the code details are context dependent in the tasks I'm doing. Like without feeding it a sample of the databases I'm working with and defining the fields, it's hard to ask it a meaningful question.

So feed it a sample of the database you're working on and define the fields.

little things like this help me tremendously...


Ted Lasso: write an email that all employees should be on time


ChatGPT: Subject: Importance of being on time
Dear all,
I wanted to take a moment to remind everyone of the importance of being on time to work.
As you know, being on time is a crucial aspect of being a responsible and reliable employee. It shows respect for your colleagues and the company, as well as a commitment to getting the job done.
In addition, being on time ensures that we can all work together effectively and efficiently. When one person is late, it can have a ripple effect on the entire team.
I know that sometimes unexpected things come up, but I encourage you to plan ahead and do your best to be on time. If you know that you will be late for any reason, please let your manager or supervisor know as soon as possible.
Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Let's all work together to ensure that we are consistently on time and able to meet our goals and deadlines.
Best regards,
[Your Name]

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Anyone using this to do their legal work deserves all of the **** that will come out of that

If you want to use AI to draw up the paperwork for your single-member LLC, you're probably ok.

If you want to use AI to oversee the acquisition of Whole Foods by Amazon, you're an idiot.

I could see it eliminating some of the hours spent on due diligence and other monotonous tasks that could be more easily automated.

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Knowing nothing about being lawyer besides what I see on TV, I'd expect most lawyering to be closer to your first example rather than your second.

If you have intelligent, lovely, good clients - yes. They hire you to prevent problems/address them early on, and its relatively painless and simple...

The mortals most lawyers have, wait until they've completely run out of ideas, and have finally gotten so scared, they call a lawyer - at which point, stuff gets expensive.

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