*****Dallas Cowboys 2022 Offseason Thread*****

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1:20p, 3/15/22
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For we know the Cowboys tried to put behavior clauses in there. How bout a fine for every dumb penalty?

Seriously this isn't a huge loss. The fact Jerry wanted him so bad should be a red flag.
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In reply to Ag Natural • 1:22p, 3/15/22
Ag Natural said:
For we know the Cowboys tried to put behavior clauses in there. How bout a fine for every dumb penalty?

Seriously this isn't a huge loss. The fact Jerry wanted him so bad should be a red flag.
I guess it all depends on who they get to fill that spot.

And I don't think anyone would mind clauses in the contract, but you have to do that up front. You can't try to sneak those in after there's already been a verbal agreement on the deal.
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1:35p, 3/15/22
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I don't have an issue with Randy leaving.

We can't just re-sign all our guys and expect different results. Time for some of these guys to go!
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1:40p, 3/15/22
Dallas had his back on the weed from day 1 and always fought his suspensions. I do not believe they were asking much there.

This could be Gregory changing his mind a 2nd time (possibly infuenced when they called to tell Denver "nevermind") and his agent grasping at anything tiny to run cover for bailing on Dallas after Dallas stood by him for so long. It's clear he's the source of this rumor, so while I am not in the Stephen or Jerry fan club, I'm also not dumb enough to immediately buy what one side tells me especially when it seems odd and they apparently offer no detail.
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In reply to Macarthur • 1:43p, 3/15/22
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Macarthur said:
I guess it all depends on who they get to fill that spot.


He's already on the team and his name is Parsons. We'll plug in an every down guy at DE and Parsons will terrorize QBs when needed.

Take Gregory's money and fix the o-line right now! Draft a bad ass LB and WR with our first 2 picks we've solved a lot of our problems.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 1:44p, 3/15/22
Agree. I think Parson's max impact and value is at disrupting quarterbacks, not chasing TE's and backs in coverage

They've got a qb that starts seeing ghosts when he has a stretch of getting pressure. Gotta fix the OL
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1:51p, 3/15/22
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My prediction is that this is a blessing in disguise. Gregory has immense talent, but he's a knucklehead that has missed most of his rookie contract and has lost us some games with dumb penalties. No way I'd want to commit big money to a guy like that. Being one of Jerry's projects, I figured there was no way he'd be allowed to leave. Pretty happy about this now. It's hard to find that sort of talent but not that level of "production". 0-6 sacks per year isn't exactly rare
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1:55p, 3/15/22
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Rapoport reporting Dallas wanted language to protect themselves. I've got no problem with that given Gregory's history. His agent is spinning, that's his job.
Good riddance to puff and pass Randy.
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2:16p, 3/15/22
I hope we right the wrong by signing Von Miller
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In reply to Danny Phantom • 2:22p, 3/15/22
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Is this really a possibility? I'd love to have him here but seems like LA is making a late push to resign him.
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In reply to Maroon Elephant • 2:27p, 3/15/22
Money talks but reports are coming out he's interested in coming to Dallas. He's from here & has a house nearby the facility. Also demarcus ware suggested it on his Instagram & von commented the eyeball emojis, FWIW.
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In reply to Vince Blake • 2:29p, 3/15/22
Her next tweet said we're "doing our due diligence." We'll see if that results in an agreement
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In reply to Agristotle • 2:30p, 3/15/22
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Rapoport reporting Dallas wanted language to protect themselves. I've got no problem with that given Gregory's history. His agent is spinning, that's his job.
Good riddance to puff and pass Randy.
Yes, but you don't try to insert that language AFTER you have the deal worked out. This is very much a black eye and does not reflect well on the front office.
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In reply to Macarthur • 2:50p, 3/15/22
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I guess we'll see if they were right. Jerry stuck by that kid when many would not have. Maybe he can get the same room at the rehab center.
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In reply to Agristotle • 2:59p, 3/15/22
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I guess we'll see if they were right. Jerry stuck by that kid when many would not have. Maybe he can get the same room at the rehab center.

There is nothing to see. The Cowboys made a mistake (Stephen in particular) and reports are that Jerry is pissed. If Gregory ends up smoking pot and getting suspended, that still doesn't make what the Cowboys did right. You can't try to change the deal after it's agreed upon and then get to act surprised when the guy says that's not what we agreed upon.
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3:02p, 3/15/22
Now, there is some serious smoke to Von coming to Dallas so this could end up with the Cowboys getting a better player, but that doesn't change the circumstances with Gregory.
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In reply to Macarthur • 3:15p, 3/15/22
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I understand your point, but I'm going to have to hear more from a reputable source on what went down before passing judgement.

Meanwhile, Dallas hasn't committed guaranteed millions to a bad risk and Von is in play. Win/win.
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3:20p, 3/15/22
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A deal isn't done until its signed. I've never been in on any contract negotiation where some back and forth redlining wasn't happening AFTER we had verbally agreed to terms. If Gregory backed out because of that then he's just spinning. All yall condemning the FO for this process don't know ***** Who cares if Jerry is pissed? We've been trying to remove him from the process forever anyway. Now we should just let him unilaterally do deals? Yeah I dont think so.
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In reply to Agristotle • 3:22p, 3/15/22
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I understand your point, but I'm going to have to hear more from a reputable source on what went down before passing judgement.

Meanwhile, Dallas hasn't committed guaranteed millions to a bad risk and Von is in play. Win/win.

Well, if they end up with Von, they've upgraded, but that will be because of dumb luck and their incompetence.

And isn't it funny how the Cowboys were talking Greogory up and how much of a success story he has been, but now he's this huge risk...
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In reply to Macarthur • 3:24p, 3/15/22
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Macarthur said:
Agristotle said:
I understand your point, but I'm going to have to hear more from a reputable source on what went down before passing judgement.

Meanwhile, Dallas hasn't committed guaranteed millions to a bad risk and Von is in play. Win/win.

Well, if they end up with Von, they've upgraded, but that will be because of dumb luck and their incompetence.

And isn't it funny how the Cowboys were talking Greogory up and how much of a success story he has been, but now he's this huge risk...


Incompetence? So by your estimation letting 90 year Jerry do deals alone is the better move?
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In reply to Ag Natural • 3:24p, 3/15/22
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A deal isn't done until its signed. I've never been in on any contract negotiation where some back and forth redlining wasn't happening AFTER we had verbally agreed to terms. If Gregory backed out because of that then he's just spinning. All yall condemning the FO for this process don't know ***** Who cares if Jerry is pissed? We've been trying to remove him from the process forever anyway. Now we should just let him unilaterally do deals? Yeah I dont think so.

You can think this all you want, but people around the league will not look favorably on this. When you agree to a deal, you agree to deal. Why do you think Gregory is spinning and not the Cowboys?

And BTW, they Cowboys are already spinning saying that the language is standard. I'm not buying for one minute that Gregory's camp just decided to jump ship the last second for a deal that is the exact same money, and will actually net less $ in his pocket due to taxes. You telling me you believe that?
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In reply to Ag Natural • 3:25p, 3/15/22
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In reply to Macarthur • 3:28p, 3/15/22
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Macarthur said:
Ag Natural said:
A deal isn't done until its signed. I've never been in on any contract negotiation where some back and forth redlining wasn't happening AFTER we had verbally agreed to terms. If Gregory backed out because of that then he's just spinning. All yall condemning the FO for this process don't know ***** Who cares if Jerry is pissed? We've been trying to remove him from the process forever anyway. Now we should just let him unilaterally do deals? Yeah I dont think so.

You can think this all you want, but people around the league will not look favorably on this. When you agree to a deal, you agree to deal. Why do you think Gregory is spinning and not the Cowboys?

And BTW, they Cowboys are already spinning saying that the language is standard. I'm not buying for one minute that Gregory's camp just decided to jump ship the last second for a deal that is the exact same money, and will actually net less $ in his pocket due to taxes. You telling me you believe that?


Well the report was he agreed to goto Denver first. Maybe that's where he wanted to be all along. Msybe its because weed is legal there.

At any rate, there is zero reason to trust Gregory's explanation over the Cowboys. Some of yall will believe anything if it gives you a chance to disparage the organization.
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In reply to Ag Natural • 3:31p, 3/15/22
I am not a knee jerk JJ or Cowboy hater. I've been on this forum for a long time.


But what have the Cowboys done to deserve the benefit of the doubt here? You aware that agents around the league are not big fans of Stephen?
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In reply to Ag Natural • 3:33p, 3/15/22
Ag Natural said:
Macarthur said:
Ag Natural said:
A deal isn't done until its signed. I've never been in on any contract negotiation where some back and forth redlining wasn't happening AFTER we had verbally agreed to terms. If Gregory backed out because of that then he's just spinning. All yall condemning the FO for this process don't know ***** Who cares if Jerry is pissed? We've been trying to remove him from the process forever anyway. Now we should just let him unilaterally do deals? Yeah I dont think so.

You can think this all you want, but people around the league will not look favorably on this. When you agree to a deal, you agree to deal. Why do you think Gregory is spinning and not the Cowboys?

And BTW, they Cowboys are already spinning saying that the language is standard. I'm not buying for one minute that Gregory's camp just decided to jump ship the last second for a deal that is the exact same money, and will actually net less $ in his pocket due to taxes. You telling me you believe that?


Well the report was he agreed to goto Denver first. Maybe that's where he wanted to be all along. Msybe its because weed is legal there.

At any rate, there is zero reason to trust Gregory's explanation over the Cowboys. Some of yall will believe anything if it gives you a chance to disparage the organization.


Also his agent has beef with Stephen and lives in Denver. Based on the reports coming out it sounds like his agent had a HUGE influence in this.
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3:35p, 3/15/22
In other news. Bulaga is now available
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In reply to Macarthur • 3:36p, 3/15/22
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Macarthur said:
I am not a knee jerk JJ or Cowboy hater. I've been on this forum for a long time.


But what have the Cowboys done to deserve the benefit of the doubt here? You aware that agents around the league are not big fans of Stephen?


Yeah they hate that Jerry isn't running things anymore. Nobody paid more money to average players than Jerry. He was an agents dream. I honestly see this as a good thing for the organization.

The fact is the Cowboys stood by Gregory for YEARS. If he wants to turn them down now because of a perceived slight then thats more a slight on his character (or lack thereof).
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3:40p, 3/15/22
Amazing to me that some folks first reaction is that Gregory and his agent are the one's gaming this and give a complete pass to the Cowboys.
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3:40p, 3/15/22
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Now we're talking... feels good to have some real Cowboys talk once again.


I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face:

We had to make changes somewhere and I'm glad Randy is off to Denver, I'm glad Cooper is in Cleveland, and I hope we find a trade partner for Collins.

If we simply held onto all of them and their million dollar vet contracts, not a damn thing was gonna change on the field in 2022. I'm excited to see who we bring in and what we can do with this 2022 team!
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3:42p, 3/15/22
Got get Von and Wagner, trade LC, resign Kearse and reload in the draft.
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In reply to Macarthur • 4:01p, 3/15/22
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With no hostility intended, it's amazing to me that people are willing to believe Randy Gregory over the Cowboys! I am a looooongtime Cowboy fan and certainly understand the complaints, but you find Randy Gregory more credible!!!! Randy-multiple-suspensions-and-rehab-because-I-can't-stay-off-the-weed Gregory. HE's more credible to you than the Multi-Billionaire Hall of Famer!?! Wow.
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In reply to Agristotle • 4:07p, 3/15/22
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Agristotle said:
I guess we'll see if they were right. Jerry stuck by that kid when many would not have. Maybe he can get the same room at the rehab center.


Rehab? For weed?

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In reply to Agristotle • 4:08p, 3/15/22
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Agristotle said:
With no hostility intended, it's amazing to me that people are willing to believe Randy Gregory over the Cowboys! I am a looooongtime Cowboy fan and certainly understand the complaints, but you find Randy Gregory more credible!!!! Randy-multiple-suspensions-and-rehab-because-I-can't-stay-off-the-weed Gregory. HE's more credible to you than the Multi-Billionaire Hall of Famer!?! Wow.


This is what I'm thinking. His agent puts out a vague excuse and we're all just supposed to buy it?
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In reply to Macarthur • 4:10p, 3/15/22
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Macarthur said:
Amazing to me that some folks first reaction is that Gregory and his agent are the one's gaming this and give a complete pass to the Cowboys.


Because Dallas history if anything is to be too favorable to existing players to the detriment of the franchise, not trying to screw them. They stick by this clown for YEARS through all sorts of nonsense, now we're supposed to believe they all of a sudden stab him in the back? You're right, I'm not buying it yet without details
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